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chiefforlife 04-27-2017 03:50 PM

Mahomes expected to go in top 10
 
Patrick Mahomes - QB - Player

The Post-Standard reports Texas Tech QB Patrick Mahomes is expected to go in the top 10.
Per reporter Matthew Fairburn, the Chiefs are "known to love" Mahomes, and are considering a trade up. The top 10 isn't lacking for quarterback-needy teams, including the team Fairburn covers, the Bills, at No. 10. Although this is considered a relatively poor quarterback class, teams appear prepared to go as crazy as usual pursuing football's most important position.
Related: Chiefs
Source: Matthew Fairburn on Twitter
Apr 27 - 5:18 PM

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 03:51 PM

Damn, I really want this kid. Top 10 is to much though...

rico 04-27-2017 03:52 PM

Wow.

DJ's left nut 04-27-2017 03:54 PM

{Shrug}

I guess that's that.

The Chiefs cannot give up what it will take to move into the top 10 and the cost/benefit doesn't work out as well anymore either since the 5th year option on a quarterback taken in the top 10 QB would be the rough equivalent of a franchise tag for him.

So you're getting 4 years under cost, 1 of which is on the bench. And for that privilege you're probably giving up your 1st and second this year and next.

Mahomes has been my top target since this process started but I just cannot see giving up the bullets needed to make that happen.

bigjosh 04-27-2017 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12842409)
{Shrug}

I guess that's that.

The Chiefs cannot give up what it will take to move into the top 10 and the cost/benefit doesn't work out as well anymore either since the 5th year option on a quarterback taken in the top 10 QB would be the rough equivalent of a franchise tag for him.

So you're getting 4 years under cost, 1 of which is on the bench. And for that privilege you're probably giving up your 1st and second this year and next.

Mahomes has been my top target since this process started but I just cannot see giving up the bullets needed to make that happen.

Well.. they have overpayed for 1 qb so far.

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staylor26 04-27-2017 03:56 PM

Yea this report is probably BS

Coogs 04-27-2017 03:57 PM

Denver might though. Heard on the radio QB is their target with the trade up rumors.

ToxSocks 04-27-2017 03:57 PM

Pffff....really guys?

This is just a smoke screen or conjecture. Rumors all over the place right now.

Also, Q.

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12842412)
Yea this report is probably BS

Man, I hope so!!

staylor26 04-27-2017 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12842416)
Pffff....really guys?

This is just a smoke screen or conjecture. Rumors all over the place right now.

Also, Q.

It's crazy how quick people are to believe a report from a Bills beat writer when it disputes everything we've heard so far.

BryanBusby 04-27-2017 04:00 PM

I don't buy it, but if it happens it happens.

His ceiling is 13 imo

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12842420)
It's crazy how quick people are to believe a report from a Bills beat writer when it disputes everything we've heard so far.

Yes but also, its just as believable as everything we've heard so far...

BryanBusby 04-27-2017 04:03 PM

Buffalo would of just traded Tyrod to Cleveland if they felt they were gonna take a QB.

Sounds like bullshit.

Mr. Laz 04-27-2017 04:04 PM

Nobody knows this

Teams would probably want our 1st next year to trade up that high.

mdchiefsfan 04-27-2017 04:04 PM

MAHOMES WATCH 2017!!

vailpass 04-27-2017 04:07 PM

Quarterbacks in the draft are like blondes in the bar. They get picked first even when sometimes they shouldn't be.

KCUnited 04-27-2017 04:08 PM

I'll be watching the draft with Mahomies.

RealSNR 04-27-2017 04:08 PM

Trade some of 2018's shitty picks to move up :D

C'mon, Dorsey. Make Clay REALLY melt down!

pugsnotdrugs19 04-27-2017 04:10 PM

If he is your guy, trade up into the top 10. IDGAF. Why should we? That is the ultimate stamp of confidence.

Take it out of everyone else's hands and go get the guy that you want. We have 10 picks and a roster with minimal holes. We can afford to trade up if we want to, top 10 or wherever.

Line Judge 04-27-2017 04:11 PM

USA Today
 
USA Today's first page in NFL draft section was entirely about Mahomes

RealSNR 04-27-2017 04:13 PM

I've been told Alex Smith is worth two 2nds. There's your starting point.

DJ's left nut 04-27-2017 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842446)
If he is your guy, trade up into the top 10. IDGAF. Why should we? That is the ultimate stamp of confidence.

Take it out of everyone else's hands and go get the guy that you want. We have 10 picks and a roster with minimal holes. We can afford to trade up if we want to, top 10 or wherever.

That's a real bad bite on a likely bluff.

Let me remind you that the cost that you're talking is essentially 3 1st round picks plus a 2nd in '18. We could move our 1st this year for a 1st and 2nd next year and then package that other 2nd with our 2nd this year for another 1st next year.

For the ammunition you're giving up to move up to 9 this year, you could almost certainly move up to 3 next year. And for all our conversations saying "Who cares about the top of next year's QB class when we can't get that high?" - a very valid point, I'll add - we COULD get that high with that kind of thump.

That's just too much all in the name of a likely bluff.

Trent Green GOAT 04-27-2017 04:13 PM

Todd mcshay had him at 30 this morning.

Mile High Mania 04-27-2017 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842446)
If he is your guy, trade up into the top 10. IDGAF. Why should we? That is the ultimate stamp of confidence.

Take it out of everyone else's hands and go get the guy that you want. We have 10 picks and a roster with minimal holes. We can afford to trade up if we want to, top 10 or wherever.

Pretty much my thought... I can't get wrapped around the pick value and all that. If they are sold on a player, go get him. Granted, don't pull a Ricky Williams or RGIII type trade to make it happen though. Get a little crazy, just not drunken bat shit crazy.

staylor26 04-27-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trent Green GOAT (Post 12842454)
Todd mcshay had him at 30 this morning.

Everybody except this lone beat writer has Mahomes either going at 13 or sliding into the 20's

Mr. Laz 04-27-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842446)
If he is your guy, trade up into the top 10. IDGAF. Why should we? That is the ultimate stamp of confidence.

Take it out of everyone else's hands and go get the guy that you want. We have 10 picks and a roster with minimal holes. We can afford to trade up if we want to, top 10 or wherever.

All of our 10 picks add up to around 1400 points.

That is equivalent to the 8th pick of the draft.

It would take our entire draft to move up that high. I don't think a team is even going to want our low round picks at all. It's would probably take some of our 2018 picks to move up there.

They better REALLY,REALLY want him for that.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-27-2017 04:21 PM

To get to pick 9, I'm guessing it would take our 1st, 2nd, one of this year's 3rds and a 2018 1st. Something like that.

That would leave us with 8 picks this year in that scenario. And you get your guy.

We haven't won a Super Bowl in 47 years. It is time to be bold and take a chance at the most important position. I'm not saying draft a guy just because he is a QB. But if they love Mahomes, nothing should stop them from a trade similar to the one above.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-27-2017 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12842458)
Pretty much my thought... I can't get wrapped around the pick value and all that. If they are sold on a player, go get him. Granted, don't pull a Ricky Williams or RGIII type trade to make it happen though. Get a little crazy, just not drunken bat shit crazy.

Yep.... it doesn't have to be a 1st round pick to be a Pro Bowl player. The great organizations make their hay in the mid to late rounds. RG3 didn't work out for Washington, but they have been way better off than the Rams since then nonetheless because they have found the talent in other rounds.

ToxSocks 04-27-2017 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842446)
If he is your guy, trade up into the top 10. IDGAF. Why should we? That is the ultimate stamp of confidence.

Take it out of everyone else's hands and go get the guy that you want. We have 10 picks and a roster with minimal holes. We can afford to trade up if we want to, top 10 or wherever.

Sweet. Then we could be like the Rams if Mahomes doesn't work out. Saddled with a Qb that looks to be a bust and pretty much out of the draft for the next two years.

ToxSocks 04-27-2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Line Judge (Post 12842448)
USA Today's first page in NFL draft section was entirely about Mahomes

That's why you hire Leigh Steinberg as your agent.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-27-2017 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12842494)
Sweet. Then we could be like the Rams if Mahomes doesn't work out. Saddled with a Qb that looks to be a bust and pretty much out of the draft for the next two years.

Because I'm sure the Rams thought that Goff was going to be shit when they picked him....

If we're scared to pick Mahomes in the top 10, then why take him at 27?

Buns 04-27-2017 04:37 PM

DeShone Kizer! Come on down!

Donger 04-27-2017 04:39 PM

I really hope there aren't going to be a lot of very disappointed people here tonight. Most everyone seems optimistic.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-27-2017 04:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The team making the most noise right now about moving up, maybe even into the Top 10 — The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCChiefs?src=hash">#KCChiefs</a>. Due diligence or…?</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857725761956007941">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's happening.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 04-27-2017 04:42 PM

CP groupthink wanted Lynch last year. Not gonna get bent out of shape over Mahomes

Mr. Laz 04-27-2017 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12842521)
I really hope there aren't going to be a lot of very disappointed people here tonight. Most everyone seems optimistic.

Oh please, you hope people start committing internet virtual suicide tonight.

mdchiefsfan 04-27-2017 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842526)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The team making the most noise right now about moving up, maybe even into the Top 10 — The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCChiefs?src=hash">#KCChiefs</a>. Due diligence or…?</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857725761956007941">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's happening.

Honestly, if they moved that far up for their guy, then they know something we don't, and I'd probably be more pumped for the choice.

Mr. Laz 04-27-2017 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842526)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The team making the most noise right now about moving up, maybe even into the Top 10 — The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCChiefs?src=hash">#KCChiefs</a>. Due diligence or…?</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857725761956007941">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's happening.

I will be so stunned that I might crap my pants if we trade into the top-10 for any player tonight.

Just not happening, don't set yourself up, people.

mdchiefsfan 04-27-2017 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842526)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The team making the most noise right now about moving up, maybe even into the Top 10 — The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCChiefs?src=hash">#KCChiefs</a>. Due diligence or…?</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857725761956007941">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's happening.

Obligatory:

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Donger 04-27-2017 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12842533)
Oh please, you hope people start committing internet virtual suicide tonight.

No, I really don't. I'd love to see the opposite.

ToxSocks 04-27-2017 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842504)
Because I'm sure the Rams thought that Goff was going to be shit when they picked him....

If we're scared to pick Mahomes in the top 10, then why take him at 27?

Because of the massive difference in investment? And yes I'm sure the Rams thought highly of Goff. Hence my point.

Red Dawg 04-27-2017 05:01 PM

I don't care how it happens. This franchise needs to make an effort to get a QB.

Chief Northman 04-27-2017 05:13 PM

Maybe the move up is for Foster?

Not trolling.

Deberg_1990 04-27-2017 05:14 PM

Oh well

DeShaun Watson it is!

threebag 04-27-2017 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 12842411)
Well.. they have overpayed for 1 qb so far.

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Yeah **** Matty Ice Cassel and **** Fat Scott Pioli

Hammock Parties 04-27-2017 05:32 PM

Phew. Bullet dodged.

Tribal Warfare 04-27-2017 05:36 PM

Bullshitters be bullshitting hours before the draft

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 05:49 PM

We ARE trying to trade UP, I gotta believe it for Mahomes!!

YES!!!

CajunChief 04-27-2017 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 12842744)
We ARE trying to trade UP, I gotta believe it for Mahomes!!

YES!!!

Oh Hell No!

Taco Tech QB's may do good in college but in the NFL they suck.

eDave 04-27-2017 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12842579)
I don't care how it happens. This franchise needs to make an effort to get a QB.

I really thought they did with Murray. What a disappointment.

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunChief (Post 12842749)
Oh Hell No!

Taco Tech QB's may do good in college but in the NFL they suck.

This kid is special! Bret Favre like!!

CaliforniaChief 04-27-2017 05:53 PM

These rumors are just going to make it all the more painful when we stay put and draft a fatty. Because we are the Chiefs.

keg in kc 04-27-2017 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12842751)
I really thought they did with Murray. What a disappointment.

5th rounder anything isn't making an effort...

CajunChief 04-27-2017 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 12842756)
This kid is special! Bret Favre like!!

Put down the crack pipe and please step away. Stooges

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 06:01 PM

Im dying, lets go!! GET MAHOMES!!!

Couch-Potato 04-27-2017 06:01 PM

Anyone else we would trade up to top 10 for?

SAUTO 04-27-2017 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 12842795)
Im dying, lets go!! GET MAHOMES!!!

I'm with you. **** this is stressful.

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12842806)
I'm with you. **** this is stressful.

LOL!

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 06:05 PM

Booing Goodell, I LOVE IT!

Perineum Ripper 04-27-2017 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842526)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The team making the most noise right now about moving up, maybe even into the Top 10 — The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCChiefs?src=hash">#KCChiefs</a>. Due diligence or…?</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857725761956007941">April 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's happening.

https://media.giphy.com/media/11Z4zciA8ISJhu/giphy.gif

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-27-2017 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12842666)
Phew. Bullet dodged.

You DO realize that there is absolutely no scenario in all the known world where the Chiefs can get Darnold, right?

Right.

It is what it is.

They would have to willingly tank their entire 2017 season to make that happen, and you KNOW Lil' Chiefy ain't havin' none of that.

So, you need to get on board. You can't bitch about never taking a QB high for 10 straight years and then proceed to piss all over it when it looks as if there may be a possibility of that scenario unfolding.

If you are using reverse-mojo, kindly disregard this post.

Hammock Parties 04-27-2017 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12843185)
You DO realize that there is absolutely no scenario in all the known world where the Chiefs can get Darnold, right?

I'm fine with any of the top 5 QBs from 2018, though.

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 07:18 PM

Here it is...

petegz28 04-27-2017 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12842409)
{Shrug}

I guess that's that.

The Chiefs cannot give up what it will take to move into the top 10 and the cost/benefit doesn't work out as well anymore either since the 5th year option on a quarterback taken in the top 10 QB would be the rough equivalent of a franchise tag for him.

So you're getting 4 years under cost, 1 of which is on the bench. And for that privilege you're probably giving up your 1st and second this year and next.

Mahomes has been my top target since this process started but I just cannot see giving up the bullets needed to make that happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 12842402)
Damn, I really want this kid. Top 10 is to much though...

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12842412)
Yea this report is probably BS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12842416)
Pffff....really guys?

This is just a smoke screen or conjecture. Rumors all over the place right now.

Also, Q.

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12842420)
It's crazy how quick people are to believe a report from a Bills beat writer when it disputes everything we've heard so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12842429)
Buffalo would of just traded Tyrod to Cleveland if they felt they were gonna take a QB.

Sounds like bullshit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12842430)
Nobody knows this

Teams would probably want our 1st next year to trade up that high.

Laz wins....

Tribal Warfare 04-27-2017 07:29 PM

The best part is Alex only fans days are numbered

chiefforlife 04-27-2017 07:42 PM

I LOVE IT!! Didnt think we had the balls to go into the top 10!!

Thank You Mr Dorsey and Mr Reid!!!

beach tribe 04-27-2017 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12842446)
If he is your guy, trade up into the top 10. IDGAF. Why should we? That is the ultimate stamp of confidence.

Take it out of everyone else's hands and go get the guy that you want. We have 10 picks and a roster with minimal holes. We can afford to trade up if we want to, top 10 or wherever.

Look at the big brain on Braaaad.

beach tribe 04-27-2017 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12842543)
I will be so stunned that I might crap my pants if we trade into the top-10 for any player tonight.

Just not happening, don't set yourself up, people.

Ooops.

beach tribe 04-27-2017 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12842430)
Nobody knows this

Teams would probably want our 1st next year to trade up that high.

Spot on here, though.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2017 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12843482)
The best part is Alex only fans days are numbered

Yes, Mr. Tribal.

So very much yes.

Sandy Vagina 04-28-2017 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12843482)
The best part is Alex only fans days are numbered

Don't count on it. Everyone pretty well knew that Smth's days as a pro QB were counting down.

KC took the big swing last night, and though I didn't like this particuar slice, Pat Mahomes II has my full support going forward.

It's time for everyone to acknowledge that team success comes before choice of how they try to achieve it. That feeling of being right has its own small measure of satisfaction, but it pales in comparison to SuperBowl glory. If Mahomes can get them there, then to hell with being right or wrong.

He will have a year to sit and absorb... then by all means.. best of luck. It should be far more exciting to see... win or lose.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2017 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12844925)
Don't count on it. Everyone pretty well knew that Smth's days as a pro QB were counting down.

KC took the big swing last night, and though I didn't like this particuar slice, Pat Mahomes II has my full support going forward.

It's time for everyone to acknowledge that team success comes before choice of how they try to achieve it. That feeling of being right has its own small measure of satisfaction, but it pales in comparison to SuperBowl glory. If Mahomes can get them there, then to hell with being right or wrong.

He will have a year to sit and absorb... then by all means.. best of luck. It should be far more exciting to see... win or lose.

LOL, sure

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2017 04:58 AM

Alex "Samsonite" Smith can afford first class thanks to Clark's deep pockets.

Happy trails, pat'na!

LMAO

KChiefs1 04-28-2017 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12842543)
I will be so stunned that I might crap my pants if we trade into the top-10 for any player tonight.



Just not happening, don't set yourself up, people.


That had to be messy.



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notorious 04-28-2017 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12843482)
The best part is Alex only fans days are numbered

It will be glorious, and I'm not an Alex hater.

His fans are just boring, repetitive, and stale.

WhawhaWhat 04-28-2017 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12842543)
I will be so stunned that I might crap my pants if we trade into the top-10 for any player tonight.

Disappointed that there's been no update.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 08:15 AM

Man - that's a hell of a deal to move up that far. Never figured they'd be able to get up that high for that little. That seemed like it would get you to 14 but not quite 10.

The only downside is that it makes that 5th year cost about $7 million more but if NO was indeed looking at him, they had little choice.

Baller move - love it. This kid is as most fun as any prospect we've seen in 10 years. He might suck, but he'll be a shitload of fun to watch doing it.

First time in my life we've tried something like this and I honestly don't even know how to process it.

Bowser 04-28-2017 08:22 AM

This was a fun thread to read.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-28-2017 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12845109)
It will be glorious, and I'm not an Alex hater.

His fans are just boring, repetitive, and stale.

Much like his playing style.

Smed1065 04-28-2017 11:57 PM

I love the pick but so many bitches in this thread, surprised red not in it yet. :)


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