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staylor26 04-28-2017 01:45 PM

Saints wanted Mahomes
 
https://mobile.twitter.com/FletcherW...%3Ft%3D2479317

Reid, Payton, and Arians wanted this guy

The Franchise 04-28-2017 01:46 PM

That just takes me to his Twitter page. What am I looking for here?

staylor26 04-28-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12846024)
That just takes me to his Twitter page. What am I looking for here?

Fixed

Baby Lee 04-28-2017 01:49 PM

I strongly suspect that the Texans preferred Mahomes as well. But they'll never tell.

Sandy Vagina 04-28-2017 01:49 PM

probably at pick 31/32, whichever they had.

I thought they were admitting they wanted Reuben Foster, but SF traded up for him instead?

staylor26 04-28-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12846032)
probably at pick 31/32, whichever they had.

I thought they were admitting they wanted Reuben Foster, but SF traded up for him instead?

No you obviously didn't watch the video

Sandy Vagina 04-28-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12846034)
No you obviously didn't watch the video

of course not. Music is far too good for that.

Urc Burry 04-28-2017 01:55 PM

Seahawks were supposedly interested in him later in the draft. Great sign seeing how many teams loved him

It's also a relief that we got our guy seeing as how it always comes out who we really like

JimBaker48.8 04-28-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12846031)
I strongly suspect that the Texans preferred Mahomes as well. But they'll never tell.

Chiefs fan for sure but also a Texans after living down here many years now but everything I've heard in the last couple weeks in the local media was that the HC really wanted MaHomes more than any other QB.
Actually it wasn't much of secret as the local narrative was that O'Brien wanted MaHomes but nationally media (mistakenly) said O'Brien wanted Watson.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 02:28 PM

Was just coming to post that.

Hell of an intelligence coup by Dorsey.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12846035)
of course not. Music is far too good for that.

It's a PGA golfer, Ryan Palmer, that the Saints had invited to sit in the war room. After he finished his round today, he briefly discussed what he saw and said they were big on Pat Mahomes until the trade.

Hard to take any conclusions away from that OTHER than Dorsey had some big ol' swinging balls and made the move he had to make.

Not many people had the Saints on Mahomes and yet it seems like Dorsey had this figured out a week or so ago. He said he had the conditional 'gentlemen's agreement' in place for that trade 6 days ago with Whaley and that they'd make the deal if Mahomes was there at 10.

That's calling your damn shot and taking it out. If Mahomes doesn't work out, that's on scouts and coaching. Dorsey's job is to make decisions/moves to acquire players that his scouts and coaches believe in. He couldn't have done a better job here because if he doesn't do exactly what he did, this doesn't get done at all.

Sandy Vagina 04-28-2017 02:35 PM

^ thanks a bunch for the summary, DJLN. Appreciated. :thumb:

pugsnotdrugs19 04-28-2017 02:40 PM

Go check out the thread I made about the Texans war room last night... it sounds like we picked their pocket, too.

RippedmyFlesh 04-28-2017 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12846118)
He couldn't have done a better job here because if he doesn't do exactly what he did, this doesn't get done at all.

This is the best move ever pulled off by the chiefs front office period.
Never in the Chiefs history have they pulled off a deal even approaching this.
Best move ever even if he doesn't pan out for execution alone.

Titty Meat 04-28-2017 03:03 PM

Big dick Dorsey did it man. Not even some of the hardcore guys on here who were sucking Mahomes off for MONTHS would have made that trade. I'm so proud of this franchise.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-28-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 12846198)
This is the best move ever pulled off by the chiefs front office period.
Never in the Chiefs history have they pulled off a deal even approaching this.
Best move ever even if he doesn't pan out for execution alone.

Yet in 2014 they sat on their ass and let Cleveland jump them for Manziel. We could be in our 3rd SB season now.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12846216)
Big dick Dorsey did it man. Not even some of the hardcore guys on here who were sucking Mahomes off for MONTHS would have made that trade. I'm so proud of this franchise.

I think it was Pest that floated that exact offer when he suggested moving up to the Colts spot at 14 (I think it was 14).

Most of the Mahomes fans jumped on it. And I figured that was a fair suggestion for what it would take to move up to that spot. I never thought it would get us all the way to 10.

Just a remarkable sequence of events from Dorsey. I'm still a little in awe of it.

sedated 04-28-2017 03:27 PM

I heard something on the radio that Dorsey has (correctly) called every pick in the first round since he's been here.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12846272)
I think it was Pest that floated that exact offer when he suggested moving up to the Colts spot at 14 (I think it was 14).

Most of the Mahomes fans jumped on it. And I figured that was a fair suggestion for what it would take to move up to that spot. I never thought it would get us all the way to 10.

Just a remarkable sequence of events from Dorsey. I'm still a little in awe of it.

Looks like it was RunKC who suggested our 1st this year, 3rd (comp) and 2nd next year to move up to 14. That would've been light and not gotten it done anyway.

Honestly, I can say now that I'm excited that Dorsey pulled the trigger and totally on board with it. And were I the GM, I'd have never seen the Saints move coming. But presuming the complete information that Dorsey has (i.e. he simply knew more than we did), I'd have been on board with this move.

If he wasn't getting scoops and just went with gut instinct here, I'd have never had the stones to do that. I'd have waited until Baltimore's pick thinking that AZ was bluffing and I'd have never seen NO coming (or figured on Houston's aggression getting them up that high) and I'd have been left holding my dick and Reuben Foster.

Red Dawg 04-28-2017 03:32 PM

It's amazing that he knew how far he had to go. Exactly how far. I salute him today for sure.

saphojunkie 04-28-2017 03:45 PM

What's even more amazing is that first round pick we sent is probably going to be in the last 4-5 spots again, so it's no worse really than losing a high second, and we still have EIGHT picks in this draft.

Dorsey is the ****ing man.

DaKCMan AP 04-28-2017 04:29 PM

Giants wanted Mahomes too

pugsnotdrugs19 04-28-2017 04:33 PM

NYG, SEA, HOU, ARZ, NO.... all confirmed to have wanted Pat.

It's clear that he was perhaps the draft's hottest commodity.

scho63 04-28-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12846031)
I strongly suspect that the Texans preferred Mahomes as well. But they'll never tell.

My New Jersey buddy Chris Olsen of the Texans told me we did well, a little too well! ROFL

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/st...2-4842f91a411d

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12846387)
NYG, SEA, HOU, ARZ, NO.... all confirmed to have wanted Pat.

It's clear that he was perhaps the draft's hottest commodity.

Rumors on Cleveland considering him at 12 also.

Pretty awestruck right now.

Camaro 04-28-2017 04:41 PM

I'm surprised the bears didn't get him at #2, seems like everyone wanted pat.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Camaro (Post 12846400)
I'm surprised the bears didn't get him at #2, seems like everyone wanted pat.

I just feel like Trubisky is a 'settle' pick.

You're worried that the hot girl at the bar is going to **** your friend even if you manage to get her to chat you up, so you start talking to the bookish 6 sitting next to her just to hedge your bets.

Weird decision.

The Franchise 04-28-2017 04:44 PM

Trubisky to the Bears was the worst pick of the 1st round. The Bengals tried their best to top them though.

DJ's left nut 04-28-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12846409)
Trubisky to the Bears was the worst pick of the 1st round. The Bengals tried their best to top them though.

Ross was an odd one, for sure.

I mean I love that guys upside and he's not just a burner; he's a good route runner with solid hands. He might be a great one; a legit Desean Jackson in his prime kind of player.

But with the knees being questionable for a burst player....man that's early. I kinda think the Corey Davis thing put them on their heels and they panicked a bit. It's the only explanation I have.

Beef Supreme 04-28-2017 04:52 PM

I was so glad when the bears took Trubisky off the board. I hadn't heard anything linking him to us, but just felt better knowing it wasn't an option.

Coach 04-28-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 12846425)
I was so glad when the bears took Trubisky off the board. I hadn't heard anything linking him to us, but just felt better knowing it wasn't an option.

Agreed. I wasn't comfortable with Trubisky because there wasn't enough game film of him (small sample size), and he only played for one year. I felt that was taking a huge risk.

Mahomes played for 2.5 years (He played some of his FR year at Tech). That's more evidence of how his mechanics/footwork/etc to study on and to see if there can be improvements, etc. etc. Basically put, it's a larger sample size.

Sandy Vagina 04-28-2017 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 12846601)
Agreed. I wasn't comfortable with Trubisky because there wasn't enough game film of him (small sample size), and he only played for one year. I felt that was taking a huge risk.

Mahomes played for 2.5 years (He played some of his FR year at Tech). That's more evidence of how his mechanics/footwork/etc to study on and to see if there can be improvements, etc. etc. Basically put, it's a larger sample size.

Agreed, much too early on John Ross, DJLN.

... and agree with Mahomes and sample size. They must have examined his flaws closely and feel that they can fix em. It's up to Mahomes and his level of dedication too, of course.

jallmon 04-28-2017 06:21 PM

This may be slightly off-topic but this morning I was listening to post-draft videos on Red Zone app. Dorsey was being questioned, repeatedly it seemed, by someone in the press about why they didn't draft Watson. Couldn't hear the questions from the press, but Dorsey kept saying to the effect, "our coaches rated the QBs and PMII was No. 1." The questioner would not let go, and Dorsey gave the same response, we followed our process and PMII was top man. They also questioned Coach Reid about it. Basically same response.

Why would our press want Watson, or was that some national weenie?

O.city 04-28-2017 06:44 PM

Thankfully, we can put to rest the whole mantra about the hunts not wanting to take chances in a qb.

They took a big ****ing swing.

-King- 04-28-2017 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12846387)
NYG, SEA, HOU, ARZ, NO.... all confirmed to have wanted Pat.

It's clear that he was perhaps the draft's hottest commodity.

Why did Seattle want him?
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Frazod 04-28-2017 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12846409)
Trubisky to the Bears was the worst pick of the 1st round. The Bengals tried their best to top them though.

Every Bears fan I talked to at work today was either in mourning or shock. What an epic **** up. Their management is like Pioli on steroids.

Fish 04-28-2017 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 12846601)
Agreed. I wasn't comfortable with Trubisky because there wasn't enough game film of him (small sample size), and he only played for one year. I felt that was taking a huge risk.

Mahomes played for 2.5 years (He played some of his FR year at Tech). That's more evidence of how his mechanics/footwork/etc to study on and to see if there can be improvements, etc. etc. Basically put, it's a larger sample size.

Trubisky came off as kind of dumb too. Nice physical tools, but a bit of a meathead.

Mahomes on the other hand, he comes off as very intelligent. 4.0 student. Respectful and mature. Super confident. Quick release. Was given audible rights at the line. His coach trusted him a lot. I'm excited.

Chiefshrink 04-29-2017 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12846031)
I strongly suspect that the Texans preferred Mahomes as well. But they'll never tell.

Oh heck no Rick Smith is in a enough hot water as it is.

Chiefshrink 04-29-2017 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 12847861)
Every Bears fan I talked to at work today was either in mourning or shock. What an epic **** up. Their management is like Pioli on steroids.

Or like Josh McDaniel remember the Tim Tebow pick?


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