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RunKC 07-21-2017 11:18 AM

Who is our breakout and let down players in 2017?
 
Last year Dee Ford was our breakout player and Phillip Gaines was our let down player.

Who do you think these players are in 2017?

IMO, I think Chris Jones establishes himself as a top shelf DL after an awesome rookie year.
Hard to simplify it to one player, but I'd choose Spencer Ware as the let down player. I think Kareem Hunt is going to take his job by midseason.

Who ya got?

The Franchise 07-21-2017 11:19 AM

Breakout: Chris Conley
Letdown: Eric Berry

I think Berry has an alright year....just not an All Pro year.

penbrook 07-21-2017 11:23 AM

Breakout: Terrance Mitchell
Let Down: Allen Bailey

O.city 07-21-2017 11:24 AM

Breakout : Tyreek

Let down: Kelce

RunKC 07-21-2017 11:26 AM

I think Allen Bailey is a strong candidate for a let down. He struggled vs the run last year and it seems like his pectoral injury would make it very difficult to work out fully like he normally would.

O.city 07-21-2017 11:27 AM

I've never been overly impressed by Bailey so I don't know that I feel a let down there

Prison Bitch 07-21-2017 11:29 AM

Letdown is already won: Houston.


He won't even come close to justifying his contract, and anyone who believes otherwise is a total homer

Reerun_KC 07-21-2017 11:29 AM

Breakout. Eric Fisher
Letdown Alex Smith'

RunKC 07-21-2017 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12966269)
Letdown is already won: Houston.


He won't even come close to justifying his contract, and anyone who believes otherwise is a total homer

This is true for almost every star player.

staylor26 07-21-2017 11:35 AM

Well you and Pest already took the 4 that came to my mind offensively and defensively.

BlackHelicopters 07-21-2017 11:39 AM

Sadly, I see an entire letdown of our team. Just a feeling from within.

penbrook 07-21-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12966270)
Breakout. Eric Fisher
Letdown Alex Smith'

Fisher broke out last year

ToxSocks 07-21-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12966254)
Breakout: Chris Conley
Letdown: Eric Berry

I think Berry has an alright year....just not an All Pro year.

This.

penbrook 07-21-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12966269)
Letdown is already won: Houston.


He won't even come close to justifying his contract, and anyone who believes otherwise is a total homer

Per his contract what should he accomplish stats wise?

Rasputin 07-21-2017 11:43 AM

I think Dee Ford needs to continue his progress because he sure can be a letdown if he doesn't.

ToxSocks 07-21-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12966266)
I've never been overly impressed by Bailey so I don't know that I feel a let down there

Exactly. Bailey has seemingly reached his ceiling already. I expect a solid contributor and nothing more or less. A JAG so to speak.

Guys like Berry and Houston will never live up to their contracts, but they'll still produce.

Ron Parker is due for a slide back to earth though.

Reerun_KC 07-21-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12966296)
Fisher broke out last year

Okay fine. So I'll switch...

Breakout Albert Wilson
Letdown Alex Smith

FloridaMan88 07-21-2017 11:47 AM

Tyreek Hill will be the let down player in 2017, simply because it will be very difficult for him to match his rookie season production.

ToxSocks 07-21-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12966306)
Tyreek Hill will be the let down player in 2017, simply because it will be very difficult for him to match his rookie season production.

Quite possibly.

But he's going to get a ton more snaps this season so i wouldn't bank on a let down year. Maybe not as explosive on a per play basis, but i can't imagine him not being productive barring an injury.

penbrook 07-21-2017 11:51 AM

Imagine if Tyreek has a season ending injury in Training Camp. Our season will be over before it even starts

staylor26 07-21-2017 11:51 AM

Tyreek has been working his ass off in KC all offseason.

Barring injury, there's no way he doesn't surpass last years #'s.

ToxSocks 07-21-2017 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12966309)
Imagine if Tyreek has a season ending injury in Training Camp. Our season will be over before it even starts

It'd usher in the Mahomes era for sure. With no 'reek or Maclin, i can't imagine Smith finishing the season. The offensive production would be atrocious. A change would be forced.

Hammock Parties 07-21-2017 11:53 AM

Breakout: Jones
Letdown: Reek

penbrook 07-21-2017 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12966311)
It'd usher in the Mahomes era for sure. With no 'reek or Maclin, i can't imagine Smith finishing the season. The offensive production would be atrocious. A change would be forced.

Let's flip that. Now imagine if Smith has a season ending injury in training camp.

Rasputin 07-21-2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12966305)
Okay fine. So I'll switch...

Breakout Albert Wilson
Letdown Alex Smith

How can Alex Smith be more of a letdown than he has been his entire career?

penbrook 07-21-2017 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12966316)
How can Alex Smith be more of a letdown than he has been his entire career?

I mean he's only the third winningest QB in the last 4 years behind Brady and Wilson

ToxSocks 07-21-2017 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12966314)
Breakout: Jones
Letdown: Reek

I don't think i could consider Jones a breakout prospect. His rookie season was already so good.

ptlyon 07-21-2017 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12966325)
I mean he's only the third winningest QB in the last 4 years behind Brady and Wilson

That's depressing

Rasputin 07-21-2017 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12966325)
I mean he's only the third winningest QB in the last 4 years behind Brady and Wilson

:rolleyes: Yeah I mean the defense and special teams had nothing to do with that but give him all the wins but never mind his shitty playoff record.

staylor26 07-21-2017 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12966332)
I don't think i could consider Jones a breakout prospect. His rookie season was already so good.

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Best22 07-21-2017 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12966309)
Imagine if Tyreek has a season ending injury in Training Camp. Our season will be over before it even starts

Imagine if the whole Patriots team decides to join the Navy. The AFC would be wide the frick open

Reerun_KC 07-21-2017 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12966316)
How can Alex Smith be more of a letdown than he has been his entire career?

Because we were supposed to be a Superbowl team by now. Not 1-3. We will be most likely be 1-4.

He was the "key" to finally breaking through.

Hammock Parties 07-21-2017 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12966332)
I don't think i could consider Jones a breakout prospect. His rookie season was already so good.

It wasn't statistically productive, though. That's where I'm anticipating a leap.

ptlyon 07-21-2017 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 12966350)
Imagine if the whole Patriots team decides to join the Navy.

Would we have to play them on an aircraft carrier?

Reerun_KC 07-21-2017 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12966325)
I mean he's only the third winningest QB in the last 4 years behind Brady and Wilson

Brady and Wilson both have more than 1 playoff win in the last 4 years.

Quesadilla Joe 07-21-2017 12:16 PM

Breakout: Bennie Logan
Letdown: Hill

patteeu 07-21-2017 12:49 PM

Breakout: Chris Jones

Letdown: Tyreek Hill

penbrook 07-21-2017 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 12966350)
Imagine if the whole Patriots team decides to join the Navy. The AFC would be wide the frick open

Joe Cardona has! Only 52 players to go

Nixhex 07-21-2017 01:35 PM

Breakout: Steven Nelson

Letdown: Ron Parker

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-21-2017 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12966269)
Letdown is already won: Houston.


He won't even come close to justifying his contract, and anyone who believes otherwise is a total homer

He hasn't done shit the last two years due to injury. Soooo therefore this will be a breakout year.

And Dee ford will have a better year. 15 sacks for Houston 12 for Ford.

Alex smiff will be highly motivated to have an All Pro year and he will.

Conley should have a good year as the coverage will be attempting to smother Hill.

Kelce will match last year.

Peters and Berry will not match their past performance.

penbrook 07-21-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixhex (Post 12966473)
Breakout: Steven Nelson

Letdown: Ron Parker

Parker has been improving every year. He's a top 5 FS

penbrook 07-21-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12966480)
He hasn't done shit the last two years due to injury. Soooo therefore this will be a breakout year.

And Dee ford will have a better year. 15 sacks for Houston 12 for Ford.

Alex smiff will be highly motivated to have an All Pro year and he will.

Conley should have a good year as the coverage will be attempting to smother Hill.

Kelce will match last year.

Peters and Berry will not match their past performance.

Peters won't because they have stopped throwing to his side. Mitchell it's your time to shine

Marcellus 07-21-2017 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12966305)
Okay fine. So I'll switch...

Breakout Albert Wilson
Letdown Alex Smith

How could Alex Smith be the letdown player? Wouldn't you have to have some level of expectation to be let down?

Marcellus 07-21-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12966314)
Breakout: Jones
Letdown: Reek

LMAO now we know Jones will suck and Reek will have 27 TD's.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-21-2017 01:57 PM

If we are healthy our D line should flourish especially if Kap shows up.

Black Bob 07-21-2017 02:13 PM

Break Out: Nunez-Roches

Let Down: Hill

Rasputin 07-21-2017 02:26 PM

Why are people saying Hill is going be a let down? His arrow is pointing up.

patteeu 07-21-2017 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12966558)
Why are people saying Hill is going be a let down? His arrow is pointing up.

Because expectations are high.

Halfcan 07-21-2017 02:56 PM

Breakout: tie between Hunt and Reek

Brokedick award: Alex Smith

It is well past time for a change at QB.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-21-2017 03:52 PM

A lot of breakout candidates. I'll go Hunt or D-Rob. It's hard to pick a letdown because as Chiefs fans, you just don't want to acknowledge the possibility. Probably going to be someone who is injured, unfortunately.

I like Houston for NFL comeback player of the year.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-21-2017 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12966585)
Breakout: tie between Hunt and Reek

Brokedick award: Alex Smith

It is well past time for a change at QB.

Sorry but, Alex Smith extension discussions are under way as we speak.

Kiimo 07-21-2017 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 12966563)
Because expectations are high.

They were high when I predicted 7 touchdowns and was laughed at. He's special.

Kman34 07-21-2017 04:16 PM

Breakout .... Conley
Letdown......Terrance Mitchell

BigBeauford 07-21-2017 04:17 PM

Let Down - Colquit (He can't keep up his streak of being the MVP)
Break out - Conley

Kiimo 07-21-2017 04:20 PM

Break out - Hill, Hunt, Jones, Mitchell
Let down - Justin Houston, Derrick Johnson.

This is terrible to write but I don't trust either set of injuries. Hope I'm wrong.

Also Tamba is done, we need some linebackers stat. #1 target next off-season.

tredadda 07-21-2017 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12966558)
Why are people saying Hill is going be a let down? His arrow is pointing up.

Sophomore slump. The league has a year of film on him. Still think he will be a stud long term but he will have to figure out how to overcome teams game planning to stop him.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-21-2017 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12966351)
Because we were supposed to be a Superbowl team by now. Not 1-3. We will be most likely be 1-4.

He was the "key" to finally breaking through.

Oh shut the hell up. We would have had an honest chance 2 years ago had ya know...Jamaal Charles, Maclin, and Justin Houston had shown up to play (3 of the 4 highest paid players ROFL)

Silly geezer. .

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-21-2017 05:00 PM

The only constant on offense who has started the vast majority of games over the last 4 years: Alex Smith.

Tribal Warfare 07-21-2017 05:01 PM

Chris Jones will ascend , but Dee Ford will have a down year.

penbrook 07-21-2017 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 12966763)
Break out - Hill, Hunt, Jones, Mitchell
Let down - Justin Houston, Derrick Johnson.

This is terrible to write but I don't trust either set of injuries. Hope I'm wrong.

Also Tamba is done, we need some linebackers stat. #1 target next off-season.

Tamba a still provides valuable depth

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2017 05:05 PM

Breakout: Kareem Hunt

Letdown: Spencer Ware

scho63 07-21-2017 05:32 PM

I've a couple of odd picks:

Breakout star: Albert Wilson - just have a feeling he will make some important and timely grabs this year

Letdown star: Dustin Colquitt - He has been so great for so long it just seems like he is due for a let down. Hope I'm wrong on this.

Reerun_KC 07-21-2017 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12966489)
How could Alex Smith be the letdown player? Wouldn't you have to have some level of expectation to be let down?

Because year 5. No afc championship game. No Superbowl. No leadership from the QB.

According to all the broke dick homers this is the year of Alex. He will let us down. Again.

rico 07-21-2017 05:58 PM

Breakout: Hunt

Letdown: Houston

Deberg_1990 07-21-2017 06:27 PM

Breakout: Albert Wilson

Letdown:Joel Stave

Kiimo 07-21-2017 06:35 PM

The only thing Albert Wilson is breaking out of is one of those escape rooms as long as speed isn't necessary to win

staylor26 07-21-2017 06:47 PM

I'm digging the Hunt love

He's definitely going to be our best rookie

DaneMcCloud 07-21-2017 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12967013)
I'm digging the Hunt love

He's definitely going to be our best rookie

I think it's possible that Tanoh and Eligwe may have a chance to contribute this year, too.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-21-2017 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12966854)
The only constant on offense who has started the vast majority of games over the last 4 years: Alex Smith.

Coincidentally, the one phase of three in the Chiefs game which has sucked the most throbbing monkey penis.

Great stat, Skippy!

staylor26 07-21-2017 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12967020)
I think it's possible that Tanoh and Eligwe may have a chance to contribute this year, too.

No doubt. Those were the first two guys that came to mind when I thought of other candidates.

ThaVirus 07-21-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12966854)
The only constant on offense who has started the vast majority of games over the last 4 years: Alex Smith.


Our offense has been pretty lackluster the past four years so that's not building much of a case for your lover.

RunKC 07-21-2017 08:33 PM

The constant on this team the last 4 years responsible for winning is the coaching staff, not Alex Smith.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-21-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12967296)
Our offense has been pretty lackluster the past four years so that's not building much of a case for your lover.

In DVOA our offense was fantastic in 2015. In the second half of 2016 when Tyreek rightfully got targets, the passing game started to excel

jjchieffan 07-21-2017 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12966314)
Breakout: Jones
Letdown: Reek

Breakout: Tyreek
Letdown Jones

Just because Clay is always wrong

In58men 07-21-2017 10:05 PM

Breakout: Tanoh

Letdown: Houston

Easy 6 07-21-2017 10:49 PM

Jones is your breakout sensation

Reek might struggle with more receiver responsibility, as every team throws the book at him

smith11 07-22-2017 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12966296)
Fisher broke out last year

somebody forgot to tell james harrison

Hammock Parties 07-22-2017 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12967366)
In the second half of 2016 when Tyreek rightfully got targets, the passing game started to excel

Alex Smith threw for 233 yards a game with 7 TD and 6 INT in the last 8 games of 2016, and that doesn't include his embarrassment of a playoff game.

The Chiefs offense averaged less than 20 points per game during those eight games.

Such excellence.

In fact, your post is so far off nothing about it is right. Smith threw for more yards per game (234), more TDs (8), fewer INTs (2) and had a higher QB rating in the first half of the season.

He was basically the same QB in the first half of the season vs the second half of the season, except he started throwing more picks.

You don't know what the **** you're talking about.

Best22 07-22-2017 11:47 AM

Breakout: Mitchell
Letdown: Conley

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-22-2017 12:10 PM

Breakout: Murray
Letdown: Conley


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