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****Official Chiefs clip the Eagles media dump thread****
May as well just do one of these every week, fam.
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Sasquatch is such a beast
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Attendance in this thread is on par with the Chargers game.
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That was so awesome, didnt get the sack but it definitely affected the throw
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Can we get Smith's awesome throw to Conley up the right sideline?
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That eagles fan is my spirit animal
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Dude, how pathetic are you that you have to film yourself watching a game and swear all the time???? Is this a thing????
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Didn't see the game was attending my best friend funeral but I saw the last 6 minutes glad the Chiefs won.
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Can you gif up the Dee Ford one handed sack?
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How do you defend that friggen shuttle pass, man?
That looks like Kelce's pulling across the formation on an option run. It freezes those LBers because they have to worry about the possibility of Smith/Hunt (or Hill on occasion) bouncing it out wide. It's just a brutal short-yardage play. I don't know how you keep them from picking up 3-5 yards easily if its executed properly. And if things break right it's a 20 yarder. Just a nasty little wrinkle that Reid has come up with. I don't recall seeing that last year; this year they've run it about 5 times and gotten good yardage and/or a 3rd down conversion each time. And the instant a team starts to sell out to stop it, Smith keeps that ball or pitches it out wide for 15+. It's a hell of a lot more effective than those speed bootlegs with a single guy out in the pattern that they ran 2-3 times yesterday, that's for sure. |
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Some of Brian Baldinger's thoughts the Chiefs/Eagles game...
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Of course, that's over 1738 videos, so that's only like $50/video. Not a ton, but not chump change either. |
Just saw the video of the Mitchell **** up.
Good lord man. What the hell was that? |
Need a gif of that kick ass run by Hunt down the right sideline.
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Alex is responsible for this sack. Had Albert Wilson open for at least a 5 yard gain. Hill was right behind the LB in the middle, but don't think Alex saw him. |
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Give me the Ford sack, Clay. I must see it again. :D
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Not sure what the down/distance was there, but he looked like he never had any interest in taking the dump. His eyes flicker down to Wilson but he's clearly hoping that space clears to hit Hill and it just didn't happen. He clearly expected Graham to crash on Wilson when he looked down and when he looks up to locate Hill, he sees that Graham didn't bite so he had nowhere to go. That's another 'the other guy gets paid to beat you' moments. Tip your cap to the LBs for not biting on the underneath hard enough to allow Smith to do what he wanted to do there. You can't get pissed at Alex for throwing too many checkdowns and then criticize him there - he's trying to do exactly what people ask for there and use his eyes/progressions to open up a bigger play. It just didn't come together. |
Ok, here's the deep ball.
https://i.imgur.com/oCFKkdI.gif Looks like a clear overthrow from Smith, and he should have led him more to the middle of the field. He made that catch very, very difficult. I don't see Reek slowing up. I'll give credit to Smith for not taking a very easy checkdown, though. |
Even then, that's a tough throw, and Reek misjudged it a bit. If he'd run a tiny bit flatter of a route, he might have gotten there.
Regardless, that's a tough throw and catch, and you have to take shots here and there. |
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That's not a "true vertical," though. It's not a straight 9 route.
He puts two moves on the corner (you can't see the first one because I cut it out). He's *supposed* to break it inside. Smith missed him. |
Like, you can say what you want, but we've got maybe the greatest deep threat in the NFL on our team, who also happens to be an incredibly instinctive route runner.
And we've got one of the NFL's worst downfield passers during the last decade, who only hit two of those passes to Tyreek Hill last season. I think I know where I'm assigning the blame. |
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No, it wasn't a 9, but it was a double move and a go. Why is there any reason to believe that he's supposed to run a 'meandering middle' route there? If he ran a true post, maybe I'd buy it. But 'eh, just kinda slide a little to your right as you run' isn't any kind of pass pattern I've ever seen. You don't just drift in a planned route and that's what Hill did there. If he's supposed to break it inside, he'd have a harder break than that. You have to run at defined angles on timing/deep pass routes. A 7 degree break from center isn't any sort of defined angle. He just drifted - you're never taught that. |
And he does slow up a bit shortly after the 20. Remember that Hill is a 'foot fire' player in how he generates his speed, yet there his stride slows down. He doesn't gain/maintain acceleration the same way Conley does - those big long strides yet that's what he does a little there; his stride slows into almost a distance lope. Look at about the 18, right after he gets inside - that's not full tilt Hill at all. And around the 9 he picks it back up again but too late to save it.
They just weren't on the same page there. It happens. |
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There are clear, simple football explanations as to why your vision of this play doesn't check out. You're welcome to ignore them if you'd like. |
It does look like he slowed a step about the 20 but I think that may be the stream?
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The route is going to the inside, and Smith leads him up the field. He just missed it. Which...is what he does. |
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If it's any kind of post, it was a bad route I'd think. I'm not really sure what it was
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It looks a hell of a lot more like he just didn't run a precise route, figured it out around the 20 and couldn't get himself back on track, hence his slowing up around the 18. Whatever it is, it's not done well. And to believe it was a skinny post you'd have to say that Smith didn't just miss by the 2 feet that the 'overthrow' appears to be, but rather by probably 5 yards or so. Nah, I can either go with "Hill's route was imprecise so the throw missed by 2-3 feet" or "Hill ran a bad skinny post and the throw missed by 4-5 yards". The former is far more likely. |
The more i watch the Chiefs vs Eagles game the more i see that Alex Smith got pounded all game.
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If Hill doesn't turn his head to watch for the ball at 20 yards out his run stays straight and he is in the right spot to catch the ball. At the 20 he turns his head to watch and starts drifting inside.
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I have a hard time believing that Smith overthrew Hill
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Just thinking and this is off-topic a little - but man - that Hunt draft pick was so incredibly done. Very good job by them. I knew he'd be something special.
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Looks like the safety (23) grabbed his hammy about the time it looked like Hill was going to haul that in for a TD.
I'm not an Alexual by any means, but I'm not a hater either. It just kills me the lengths that some go to discredit him. Look there is plenty of evidence from over the years that Alex is not an elite QB. This clip is not one of them. |
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Whether it was Dorsey, Veach, or a combination of the two... we can only hope that same eagle eye for talent remains So many young badasses have been collected in 4 short years |
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The pass protection was fine, but Alex Smith is clearly looking to push the ball downfield more, which leads to him holding the ball longer. The OL did it's pretty job well against a damn good defensive front, and Alex Smith did a great job of standing in the pocket, looking for plays, and making plays. |
Go read some of Clownus's drivel
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But on that play the deepest receiver was only 10 yards. He still has a lot of bad habits when a receiver doesn't come immediately open. |
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His receiver didn't come immediately open. Had he dumped it to Wilson, you'd have bitched about him being the same ol' Admiral Checkdown we've had. He did the only thing he could've done there to try to push the ball. And he doesn't control the damn routes - that was the call. He was looking to get the ball deeper down the field there and took a sack because of it. That's EXACTLY what you're asking for and that's exactly the outcome that's going to occur on occasion because of it. You're just mostly reeruned. You do know that, right? I mean damn man, you act like he should just be taking 7 step drops and throwing it as hard as he can every other snap. That play is a play that a good, aggressive QB tries to make because often times that LB will bit and you'll get a guy free in the second level to make a catch and turn upfield for 12-15 yards. That's an easy pitch and catch if the LB just follows the QBs eyes. And yet you still bitch. Because that's what you do. |
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And there were no "deeper" routes on that play. The deepest man was 10 yards. Just a dude shitting his pants in the pocket because his primary read wasn't open. |
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The other guys get paid to play as well, champ. Nobody's ever completed 100% of their passes. There was no 'bad habit' there, he tried to move the LB with his eyes and it didn't work. Shit happens. A bad habit would've been throwing the damn thing anyway. Instead he saw that the jig was up, looked for a running lane up the middle (there really wasn't one) so he tucked the ball and mitigated the damages. Sometimes you just tip your cap to the other guy. It doesn't mean Smith screwed up. |
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He's just trying to push that agenda non matter what and is trying hard to get in a "win/win" situation fitting that agenda. It's probably best for nobody to talk to Clay anymore. |
Lord, you actually edited it to make it less intelligent.
What would you have had him do, Mr. Wizard? That was absolutely the right decision and the occasional result of a QB looking to make a play rather than take the first 3 yard dump available to him. You're just all over the damn map. It's pretty solid evidence that you truly have no idea what you're looking at. As though we needed any more of it. |
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He exposed himself for a sack when the ball should have come out much, much sooner. But his tunnel vision killed the whole ****ing thing. Why act surprised and try to defend it? It's why he's been bad on third down his WHOLE ****ING CAREER. You are drifting back into being a Smith homer after an offseason of waking up. It's really sad. |
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Dump it to Wilson or try to make a throw on the boundary to Conley. Anything is better than just standing there doing the pants shitting routine before taking a sack. Might as well have been Matthew Brennan Cassel back there. |
If you're not gonna throw the out to Conley in the break, yo can't throw it. That's a pick 6 waiting to happen.
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Late throws outside the number aren't really a great idea
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There was nothing 'tunnel vision' about that play. He had the right idea and the LB sniffed it out. I ask again - what was the right play there? What should he have done on a play where the whole design was to draw the LB down on the crosser to free up the middle? And you're just buried into the same old mindless weather-vane who waits for popular opinion to emerge so you can latch onto it like grim death and then manipulate GIFs to make a point that others made far better before you. Tell me more about the greatness of Trent Green after you spent a solid year pining for Damon Huard to replace him. You just don't have the foggiest ****ing idea what you're talking about. Somehow after 100,000 posts and countless hours spent following this sport, you still lack a fundamental understanding of what is actually happening on the field. You really are like someone's middle-aged mom who has the game on in the background and then gets really excited when the fans cheer or really mad when we have to punt but has no idea why either of those things occurred. |
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You don't throw late and at the hashes - ever. At best you get Wilson absolutely murdered. And if you throw it to Conley at the boundary it's probably getting housed. You want bad habits? You just named two of them - throwing an out route after the break or throwing late between the numbers are two absolutely abysmal habits and something that no QB ever will be taught to do (Mahomes won't see the field if that's something he does with regularity). You're just spewing tripe with no basis in reality. |
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O.city's an evil dentist who gets drunk and goes and hangs out in closed bars during baseball games and even he gets it. |
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Complete and total tunnel vision. The Chiefs ran the same play in New England for a first down to Reek (on the TD drive before the half) and Smith did the same thing, but it worked because the OL provided him with an ABSURD amount of time instead of just an adequate amount. What, did you guys actually think Smith was good on third down, suddenly? That's never been true...because he does shit like this. |
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