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Quesadilla Joe 09-29-2017 02:36 PM

How the Chiefs exploit defenses | Xs & Os w/ Geoff Schwartz
 
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Good breakdown of the Chiefs' trickery.

RunKC 09-29-2017 02:46 PM

Good luck to LB's trying to cover this shit. Andy has used these plays to eliminate players like Von Miller, Shane Ray, Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram and has turned it into big plays.

Perfect offense to run in this division.

Coochie liquor 09-29-2017 10:03 PM

Andy Reid is a boss at designing plays that allow yac. If only he could manage the game a little better. We'll see how the rest of this season plays out. Looking forward to seeing how he changes the offense when it's Mahomes time!

Buehler445 09-29-2017 11:36 PM

Good watch. Thanks for posting.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-29-2017 11:41 PM

Y'all can bitch about Andy's play calling but he's got an offense that's like Floyd Mayweather...he wears down the linebackers and safeties for 3 quarters without making critical mistakes then he goes in for the kill after the opposing team has already punched themselves out

jaa1025 09-29-2017 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112550)
Y'all can bitch about Andy's play calling but he's got an offense that's like Floyd Mayweather...he wears down the linebackers and safeties for 3 quarters without making critical mistakes then he goes in for the kill after the opposing team has already punched themselves out

It's not Reids offense that has been the problem. It's been Alex Smith. Reid has always had good-great offenses at Philly.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-29-2017 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13112554)
It's not Reids offense that has been the problem. It's been Alex Smith. Reid has always had good-great offenses at Philly.

The issue has been personnel. This is the first year he's had 3 strong offensive weapons actually playing together.
Year 1-2: stuck with bowe/fasano/mcgrath and a bunch of shit receivers
Year 3: charles tears acl
Year 4: still no charles, banged up Maclin, running backs that can't do jack shit.

Year 5: Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelce. Oh yea, and an offensive line that actually has experience playing with each other.

Use some god damn common sense.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-29-2017 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13112554)
It's not Reids offense that has been the problem. It's been Alex Smith. Reid has always had good-great offenses at Philly.

Let me ask you this....did Matt Ryan miraculously turn into an MVP over night or does it have to do with the fact that he actually has pieces that he can spread the ball to at multiple positions? He never had dual threat running backs worth a squat, now he has two phenomenal ones. In case you haven't watched the NFL...Julio/Gabriel/Sanu/Freeman/Coleman/Hooper make up one of the greatest offensive personnel this league has ever seen.

A QB doesn't go from a career rating of 91 to 117 because he changed his game overnight.

Alex Smith is no different, you are only as good as your weapons allow you to be.

Ming the Merciless 09-29-2017 11:59 PM

It's always some excuse or another

Always someone else's fault

Just like it will be this year

Just like it has been for 12 years

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13112570)
It's always some excuse or another

Always someone else's fault

Just like it will be this year

Just like it has been for 12 years

Your ignorant posts completely ignore how a guy like Matt Ryan goes from a career 2:1 TD/INT ratio to a mind-blowing 5:1 ratio to win the MVP. The drafting of Gabriel, acquisition of Sanu, in addition to utilizing 2 dual threat RB's made that offense dangerous. Matt Ryan did nothing to change his throwing ability or accuracy, it's all about the personnel and scheme.


You are only as good as your weapons are. Remember, you're part of that dipshit crowd blaming Smith in 2013/14 when in reality, it was Dwayne Bowe who wasn't even worthy of being a starting receiver on a different team.

ROFL CP morons

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 12:13 AM

Rodgers didn't have a down year in 2015 (QB rating dropped 12 points from his average) for no reason despite being healthy. It had everything to do with Jordy Nelson out for the season.

Common. Sense.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 12:15 AM

https://image.ibb.co/dH6b0b/TB12_stats_no_Gronk.png

You're only as good as your weapons

Ming the Merciless 09-30-2017 12:17 AM

We already had this conversation ...you keep repeating the same thing...maybe Matt Ryan is a better QB than smith....? Smith also started his pro career a couple years earlier than Ryan, and has more seasons played....I'm thinking the 5:1 ratio was just a great year...

I'm not going to look at 1 great year or one great game and assume he is a different guy..

Ming the Merciless 09-30-2017 12:18 AM

Post Bradys numbers pre gronk

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13112589)
Post Bradys numbers pre gronk

You mean you want me to post bradys numbers without gronk or randy moss (arguably top 2 wide receiver of all time) ??

Are you ****ing high? ROFL

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13112587)
We already had this conversation ...you keep repeating the same thing...maybe Matt Ryan is a better QB than smith....? Smith also started his pro career a couple years earlier than Ryan, and has more seasons played....I'm thinking the 5:1 ratio was just a great year...

I'm not going to look at 1 great year or one great game and assume he is a different guy..

No. Stop. You're an idiot to suggest that Matt Ryan catapulted his career jumping 25 QB rating points just out of thin air. It has EVERYTHING to do with Gabriel, Sanu, Hooper, Coleman, and Freeman being amazing complements to Julio Jones.

kcxiv 09-30-2017 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112598)
No. Stop. You're an idiot to suggest that Matt Ryan catapulted his career jumping 25 QB rating points just out of thin air. It has EVERYTHING to do with Gabriel, Sanu, Hooper, Coleman, and Freeman being amazing complements to Julio Jones.

And that he can throw the ball with the test of them! That might have a little something to do with it.

Buns 09-30-2017 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112566)
Let me ask you this....did Matt Ryan miraculously turn into an MVP

No, check out Boston College vs Virginia Tech 2007, last 3 minutes.

milkman 09-30-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112598)
No. Stop. You're an idiot to suggest that Matt Ryan catapulted his career jumping 25 QB rating points just out of thin air. It has EVERYTHING to do with Gabriel, Sanu, Hooper, Coleman, and Freeman being amazing complements to Julio Jones.

Numbers, especially subjective made up bull shit formula numbers like passer rating and QBR. mean jack.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13112702)
Numbers, especially subjective made up bull shit formula numbers like passer rating and QBR. mean jack.

Just establishing my point that they are virtually the same quarterbacks but just playing to their potential. Personnel is a huge limiting factor that rarely is talked about

Ming the Merciless 09-30-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112597)
randy moss (arguably top 2 wide receiver of all time) ??

Are you ****ing high? ROFL

are you? are you old enough to know that moss' career was just about done before brady re-incarnated him? Or did you just look his name up in an encyclopedia?

Do you know how many receivers brady has made look better? Are you seriously saying tom brady doesnt make his receivers better?

MTG#10 09-30-2017 08:58 AM

And another thread turns into Alex Smith arguments. Shocked.

milkman 09-30-2017 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13112749)
And another thread turns into Alex Smith arguments. Shocked.

Alex Smith might well be the single most polarizing figure in Kansas City sports history.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13112745)
are you? are you old enough to know that moss' career was just about done before brady re-incarnated him? Or did you just look his name up in an encyclopedia?

Do you know how many receivers brady has made look better? Are you seriously saying tom brady doesnt make his receivers better?

Moss was limited by QB play. Even if he was 80% of his prime when playing in New England, that's still better than any receiver playing in the league right now. Antonio Brown included.

Keep up, cupcake

Bearcat 09-30-2017 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112597)
You mean you want me to post bradys numbers without gronk or randy moss (arguably top 2 wide receiver of all time) ??

Are you ****ing high? ROFL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13112745)
are you? are you old enough to know that moss' career was just about done before brady re-incarnated him? Or did you just look his name up in an encyclopedia?

Do you know how many receivers brady has made look better? Are you seriously saying tom brady doesnt make his receivers better?

Take your shit to the Romper Room... it's getting old moving entire threads there due to the same few people.

Meatloaf 09-30-2017 09:48 AM

Most interesting vid. Thanks for the post, QJ.

WhiteWhale 09-30-2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112785)
Moss was limited by QB play. Even if he was 80% of his prime when playing in New England, that's still better than any receiver playing in the league right now. Antonio Brown included.

Keep up, cupcake

Did anyone else see what he just did here?

Shaid 09-30-2017 10:01 AM

Thread with great potential being completely derailed.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13112828)
Did anyone else see what he just did here?

2 years in Oakland played with exactly who at quarterback?? How dumb are you? Keep up.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 13112805)
Take your shit to the Romper Room... it's getting old moving entire threads there due to the same few people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13112749)
And another thread turns into Alex Smith arguments. Shocked.

Quite frankly if people want to discuss the video then they would be doing so.

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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 13112832)
Thread with great potential being completely derailed.

Sure. Start us off, pal

WhiteWhale 09-30-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112833)
2 years in Oakland played with exactly who at quarterback?? How dumb are you? Keep up.

"Qb's are only as good as their supporting cast."

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-30-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13112839)
"Qb's are only as good as their supporting cast."

Great response after you finally realized that Randy moss was playing with no name qbs

If you're going to use the same argument for dwayne bowe, then you really are as stupid as you seem

Bearcat 09-30-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112836)
Quite frankly if people want to discuss the video then they would be doing so.



Sure. Start us off, pal

Quite frankly, bye.

Shaid 09-30-2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13112836)
Sure. Start us off, pal

It started off fine then you bit on Jaa1025's post and everyone else bit on yours.

milkman 09-30-2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 13112805)
Take your shit to the Romper Room... it's getting old moving entire threads there due to the same few people.

So glad that this place voted in whiny ass bitches to moderate.

Bearcat 09-30-2017 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13112855)
So glad that this place voted in whiny ass bitches to moderate.

I know it's strange, but a lot of people don't actually like reading the same stupid shit over and over and over in threads that have nothing to do with what's being argued by the same few people... feel free to head over to the Romper Room for some good mind-numbing conversation though.


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