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Schnitzel 10-15-2017 04:13 PM

Contenders or pretenders?
 
Discuss

TribalElder 10-15-2017 04:15 PM

We got caught cursing by a team who just got embarrassed

They had our number today so far

siberian khatru 10-15-2017 04:16 PM

Contenders so long as we don't face Pittsburgh in the playoffs

-King- 10-15-2017 04:16 PM

Still contenders. If the chiefs aren't, then who is? Every team had gotten smacked this year. Today is just the chiefs day.
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Bearcat 10-15-2017 04:18 PM

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chefs fan in omaha 10-15-2017 04:21 PM

Contenders, 5-0 got to their heads and are a little banged up. Just an off week

petegz28 10-15-2017 04:23 PM

BOB SUTTON BACK ONTO SANKA...CHIEFS DEFENSE BACK TO SUCKAGE

carcosa 10-15-2017 04:24 PM

Sure feels like we might actually be bad

carcosa 10-15-2017 04:24 PM

We'll be fine tho

Hammock Parties 10-15-2017 04:24 PM

game isnt over reerun

Trivers 10-15-2017 04:25 PM

You should lose posting privileges.

posting this "look at me" drama in the 3rd quarter.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-15-2017 04:31 PM

No one overrates their team more when ahead or throws in the towel faster when behind than Chiefs fans.

jaa1025 10-15-2017 04:41 PM

Pretenders. This is the Alex Smith that the Chiefs drafted Mahomes for. Offense didn't show up. Sutton's D is garbage. Why pay Houston 100 mil to cover wide receivers and tight ends? I'm ready for Mahomes to take over.

mschiefs1984 10-15-2017 04:43 PM

Need to see how they come back

Every team just about has one horrible burn the tape game. The Steelers did last week. Need to see how they respond

KC_Connection 10-15-2017 05:00 PM

They'll make it out of the AFC as long as they avoid the Steelers and Patriots in the playoffs. Same as last year.

Valiant 10-15-2017 05:04 PM

Half and half. Our lines and secondary will stop us from being a serious contender. We play soft. That is on Andy.

ClevelandBronco 10-15-2017 05:19 PM

Not as good as they led us to believe, but not as bad as they looked today.

RobBlake 10-15-2017 05:20 PM

5-1 dumbass

Bugeater 10-15-2017 05:22 PM

The Chiefs are never contenders.

Dayze 10-15-2017 05:23 PM

Contenders in the regular season, until it actually counts in the post season. They’ll fold like they always do.

Frazod 10-15-2017 05:24 PM

Pretenders. Frauds. ****s.

A big pile of deceiving shit spraypainted shiny red.

This was the game we they had to win. They failed.

Another one and done in the playoffs.

**** you. Just **** you.

MTG#10 10-15-2017 05:24 PM

Depends on if we face them in the playoffs. They could be a 0-16 team and we could be a 16-0 team and they'd still beat our ass.

Sannyasi 10-15-2017 05:24 PM

We're about where we were last year, the 3rd best team in the AFC.

WhawhaWhat 10-15-2017 05:25 PM

Contenders. So are the Steelers. The O-Line and the offense as a whole will be better when Morse and LDT get back. Possibly Ehinger too.

RickObie 10-15-2017 05:26 PM

Contenders - no doubt - still the front runners in the AFC!

RickObie 10-15-2017 05:26 PM

We lost a game - that’s it!!

straycash 10-15-2017 05:27 PM

It's been confirmed, we going to the super bowl, the script is written, book it!

dj56dt58 10-15-2017 05:27 PM

Ive been a big fan of Sutton but I'm done, he has to go. It looked like playing a ****ing 5 year old at madden today. IDK how in the **** pitt only scored 17 or whatever holy shit

petegz28 10-15-2017 05:28 PM

so our record against teams .500 or better is
4-1 ?

ThaVirus 10-15-2017 05:28 PM

Still contenders but clearly not the front runners.

The Steelers obviously have the keys to the city and I'm not sure we beat NE or Denver in Denver in January when it matters.

DJ's left nut 10-15-2017 05:28 PM

Soul of a semi-finalist.

Losing is in this franchise's DNA. I'll continue to root for them but the bottom line is that this team will never win a ****ing thing.

Pretenders is giving them too much credit. They're the bit players in someone else's story.

tk13 10-15-2017 05:29 PM

We're easily still contenders. This looks like one of those years where there isn't a dominant team or two. You can't tell me the Patriots looked good today. The Falcons collapsed against Jay Cutler. The Packers just lost Rodgers for the season. It's pretty wide open thus far.

TEX 10-15-2017 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13153380)
Contenders. So are the Steelers. The O-Line and the offense as a whole will be better when Morse and LDT get back. Possibly Ehinger too.

Yep. As long as we can avoid Pitt, KC will be ok. But that run defense sure is soft.

Eleazar 10-15-2017 05:30 PM

Pretenders.

This team is no better than last year.

CupidStunt 10-15-2017 05:31 PM

We're contenders -- the AFC and overall the NFL is quite terrible really. But in most years, we'd be total frauds. This is a deeply flawed team. Even IF Smiff gets it back together, which is highly questionable, the OL is ****ing terrible which dictates a lot of the passing scheme, and we don't have the overall receiving core to dominate matchups -- just a lot of good coaching, scheming, etc. Which is gonna fail a lot on days where the opponent shows up, like today.

If we meet the Pats in the playoffs, it should probably be a 30-27 type game, and I ain't taking Smiff against Brady in the playoffs. If we meet the Steelers, well, LOL. Any other team? Who knows. That's the thing, the whole conference is shit.

FlaChief58 10-15-2017 05:32 PM

We'll likely see them again in the playoffs. Pretenders

KC_Connection 10-15-2017 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13153430)
Still contenders but clearly not the front runners.

The Steelers obviously have the keys to the city and I'm not sure we beat NE or Denver in Denver in January when it matters.

Denver isn't actually good. The other two, yeah, KC will probably lose again to either one.

PunkinDrublic 10-15-2017 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13153380)
Contenders. So are the Steelers. The O-Line and the offense as a whole will be better when Morse and LDT get back. Possibly Ehinger too.

I don't think Pittsburgh can keep this up. Pittsburgh needed this game more than we did. Rapistburger through a flukey TD that should've been a pic 6. The Steelers have Laveon Bell, a killer defense and that's about it.

TEX 10-15-2017 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13153430)
Still contenders but clearly not the front runners.

The Steelers obviously have the keys to the city and I'm not sure we beat NE or Denver in Denver in January when it matters.

Yep. Pitt will beat KC every time because they can run all over this defense. But they'll get beat if you can stop their run game. Jacksonville made it look easy in Pittsburgh. KC needs to be able to stop the run better or another early playoff exit is likely.

Buck 10-15-2017 05:36 PM

Lose 1 game, think that means your team is bad.

lol

fan4ever 10-15-2017 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 13152940)
Half and half. Our lines and secondary will stop us from being a serious contender. We play soft. That is on Andy.

Berry being out also...strange how one guy can bring attitude and affect other players...the secondary has been tackling like a bunch of bitches since Berry was injured.

PunkinDrublic 10-15-2017 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 13153553)
Lose 1 game, think that means your team is bad.

lol

Yup. Leave it to the charger fan to give us a little wisdom. Reading some of these bleeding vaginas posts after a loss just proves how ****ing clueless most fans are.

Red Dawg 10-15-2017 05:45 PM

Apparently Comnely and Wilson are really important. We teally sucked wotthout them.

oaklandhater 10-15-2017 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13152147)
BOB SUTTON BACK ONTO SANKA...CHIEFS DEFENSE BACK TO SUCKAGE

How are people ripping on the D and giving Alex a free pass it blows my mind.

notorious 10-15-2017 05:46 PM

With this version of Alex and the OLine they are pretenders.


Bad game, hope they can move on, but damn what a missed chance to steal a game.

Ming the Merciless 10-15-2017 05:46 PM

contenders to a degree but flawed, obviously

NJChiefsFan 10-15-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13153664)
Apparently Comnely and Wilson are really important. We teally sucked wotthout them.

Robinson got open like four times. He can't throw it to himself. If you are coming away from this game down on Robinson you aren't watching. Needs to be better at run blocking.

George Liquor 10-15-2017 05:47 PM

Pretenders

oaklandhater 10-15-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 13153553)
Lose 1 game, think that means your team is bad.

lol

it's how we lost the game even the announcers said it was exactly like our playoff lost last year.

Makes you worried there was no real growth with Smith from last year.

-King- 10-15-2017 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13153432)
Soul of a semi-finalist.

Losing is in this franchise's DNA. I'll continue to root for them but the bottom line is that this team will never win a ****ing thing.

Pretenders is giving them too much credit. They're the bit players in someone else's story.

So what does that make the Steelers? Or the Patriots? Or the Texans? Are they pretenders also? They've lost more times than us and have embarrassing losses too, so then what?
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CupidStunt 10-15-2017 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 13153553)
Lose 1 game, think that means your team is bad.

lol

There's a handful of us who would've/already have posted the same concerns before this game and result. I still think the Chiefs could beat just about any team in the NFL on a neutral field, but that's only because every team has fatal flaws this year.

Also, sometimes it's the way you lose. This game was really a disgusting beat-down that KC somehow, miraculously - just like the playoff game - had a chance to win. I wouldn't feel that bad at all if we lost 31-28, having Smiff march us up and down the field, giving us the confidence that he can move the ball as and when needed -- that means you're never out of the game. Instead we were just praying for mistakes, a big special teams play, maybe a Big Ben pick-6, some kind of miracle. That's the ugly formula KC has won with in the past. It's ****ing ugly and completely unsustainable.

It's funny because that game did nothing to change my mind that KC will go into Oakland and stop a mudhole in their ass. Because they're a fraud of a team. But what it did do is make me really question whether we'll even be able to muster 10 points against the Broncos the week after, because that defense is legit and our offense doesn't inspire confidence against a tough, PHYSICAL team. And being at home isn't even a ****ing good thing these days, I swear.

petegz28 10-15-2017 05:51 PM

so we aren't going 16-0? We played our shittiest game of the season and still had a chance at the end to win it with our #1, #2, and #3 WR's out for the last drive? Our best pass blocking RB was out for the last drive as well. This was truly a game of beating ourselves. Which is good because it's fixable.

Smith has been all ****ing world this season and had an off game. That happens to every QB, even the the "elite" QB's. No starting C, RG or LG. Our #2 and #3 WR's out for the game. No Berry. And it still took us shitting ourselves to lose.

Yeah, this ain't last year's team. Except for Sutton who continues to drop Houston into coverage well downfield when he should be rushing the passer.

petegz28 10-15-2017 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13153687)
it's how we lost the game even the announcers said it was exactly like our playoff lost last year.

Makes you worried there was no real growth with Smith from last year.

As usual, you have one of the most idiotic posts of the day.

FlaChief58 10-15-2017 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 13153553)
Lose 1 game, think that means your team is bad.

lol

It's not the losing one game part as much as the consistently losing to a team that you'll likely see again in the playoffs

scho63 10-15-2017 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13153432)
Soul of a semi-finalist.

Losing is in this franchise's DNA. I'll continue to root for them but the bottom line is that this team will never win a ****ing thing.

Pretenders is giving them too much credit. They're the bit players in someone else's story.

:(

Boy that sums up my feelings exactly after being a fan for going on 48 years. There is always that moment where it looks like we are going to get over the hump and then it disappears.

The play with Gaines and Sorenson blowing an INT to allow Brown to score the TD just is part of the tapestry of Chiefs near misses.

Hammock Parties 10-15-2017 05:54 PM

Defense isn't good enough.

Smith isn't good enough.

We'll fool the homers for a few more regular season wins and then get our comeuppance in the postseason like usual.

Tigers. Don't. Change. Their. Stripes.

petegz28 10-15-2017 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 13153720)
It's not the losing one game part as much as the consistently losing to a team that you'll likely see again in the playoffs

Thanks for reminding me, a self-inflicted safety and a lucky ass catch for a TD to boot. Yeah, we suck.

petegz28 10-15-2017 05:57 PM

Took 6 games before Clay could gloat. Meanwhile Smith is still one of the best QB's in the league right now, has the best record and most likely has done it against the hardest SoS as well.

PunkinDrublic 10-15-2017 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 13153705)
There's a handful of us who would've/already have posted the same concerns before this game and result. I still think the Chiefs could beat just about any team in the NFL on a neutral field, but that's only because every team has fatal flaws this year.

Also, sometimes it's the way you lose. This game was really a disgusting beat-down that KC somehow, miraculously - just like the playoff game - had a chance to win. I wouldn't feel that bad at all if we lost 31-28, having Smiff march us up and down the field, giving us the confidence that he can move the ball as and when needed -- that means you're never out of the game. Instead we were just praying for mistakes, a big special teams play, maybe a Big Ben pick-6, some kind of miracle. That's the ugly formula KC has won with in the past. It's ****ing ugly and completely unsustainable.

It's funny because that game did nothing to change my mind that KC will go into Oakland and stop a mudhole in their ass. Because they're a fraud of a team. But what it did do is make me really question whether we'll even be able to muster 10 points against the Broncos the week after, because that defense is legit and our offense doesn't inspire confidence against a tough, PHYSICAL team. And being at home isn't even a ****ing good thing these days, I swear.


Come on dude. Last year when we got blown out at Pittsburgh, THAT was a beat down. This was still a close physical game that the ball didn't bounce our way. That last TD throw was a bad throw that should've been picked off.

MahiMike 10-15-2017 05:57 PM

The good news is we probably won't have to worry about what to do with Alex if he wins the SB.

Sassy Squatch 10-15-2017 05:58 PM

Relax. We always have one of these games where we just shit all over ourselves. At least this iteration of the Chiefs had the balls to fight back and make a game out of it.

GloryDayz 10-15-2017 05:59 PM

An Andy Reid team. 'Nuff said!

penbrook 10-15-2017 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13153708)
so we aren't going 16-0? We played our shittiest game of the season and still had a chance at the end to win it with our #1, #2, and #3 WR's out for the last drive? Our best pass blocking RB was out for the last drive as well. This was truly a game of beating ourselves. Which is good because it's fixable.

Smith has been all ****ing world this season and had an off game. That happens to every QB, even the the "elite" QB's. No starting C, RG or LG. Our #2 and #3 WR's out for the game. No Berry. And it still took us shitting ourselves to lose.

Yeah, this ain't last year's team. Except for Sutton who continues to drop Houston into coverage well downfield when he should be rushing the passer.

This! All of this! :clap:

oaklandhater 10-15-2017 06:00 PM

Regular season contenders Playoff pretenders.

Marcellus 10-15-2017 06:00 PM

Shit happens, Pitt has uor number. Move on, KC still finishes with best record in the AFC.

NJChiefsFan 10-15-2017 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13153753)
Thanks for reminding me, a self-inflicted safety and a lucky ass catch for a TD to boot. Yeah, we suck.

A chief player caused that bounce. Does that really make it luck?

oaklandhater 10-15-2017 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13153793)
Shit happens, Pitt has uor number. Move on, KC still finishes with best record in the AFC.

I still say this team easily drops 3-4 more games before the playoffs.


We haven't even played Den yet.

FlaChief58 10-15-2017 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13153753)
Thanks for reminding me, a self-inflicted safety and a lucky ass catch for a TD to boot. Yeah, we suck.

This team has a propensity for losing when it counts the most. The Steelers own our asses and have for years. They are a perennial playoff team. No reason to think we can win it all if we can't beat that type of team. Until we do, yeah, we suck

petegz28 10-15-2017 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13153811)
A chief player caused that bounce. Does that really make it luck?

It is lucky any time a player catches a tipped ball, dodges a tackle and still scores a TD.....

petegz28 10-15-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13153819)
I still say this team easily drops 3-4 more games before the playoffs.


We haven't even played Den yet.

so we might be 12-4 or 11-5??? WOW! The ****ing HORROR!!!

PunkinDrublic 10-15-2017 06:16 PM

It really is a game of lucky bounces and breaks. If Dotson comes down with that ball, Washington beats us and we're looking at a 4-2 team. Lots of teams would love to be 5-1 at this point. I honestly think the Steelers needed this game more to turn around their season. Let's see if we can shake this off and beat the faid.

TEX 10-15-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13153740)
Defense isn't good enough.

Smith isn't good enough.

We'll fool the homers for a few more regular season wins and then get our comeuppance in the postseason like usual.

Tigers. Don't. Change. Their. Stripes.

Smith is good enough. You're right about the defense.

O.city 10-15-2017 06:17 PM

Need to really finish and get the 1 seed. Hope Pitt and New England are the 2/3 and they take out the steelers

PunkinDrublic 10-15-2017 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13153902)
so we might be 12-4 or 11-5??? WOW! The ****ing HORROR!!!

Wait aren't you the guy everyone always accuses of overreacting in all the Royals game threads?

kcpasco 10-15-2017 06:18 PM

Pretenders. I don’t trust this team to become dominant.

petegz28 10-15-2017 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 13153903)
It really is a game of lucky bounces and breaks. If Dotson comes down with that ball, Washington beats us and we're looking at a 4-2 team. Lots of teams would love to be 5-1 at this point. I honestly think the Steelers needed this game more to turn around their season. Let's see if we can shake this off and beat the faid.

If you want to look at it that way, the Steelers had more to play for than we did. I also think the injuries on offense are starting to bite.

ChiefsCountry 10-15-2017 06:20 PM

New England win really had everybody fooled. They are just going to be a 12-4 team instead of 11-5.

PunkinDrublic 10-15-2017 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13153917)
If you want to look at it that way, the Steelers had more to play for than we did. I also think the injuries on offense are starting to bite.

I would agree with that too. I also think that once Alex and Robinson have more playing time together hopefully they'll get on the same page. Still no excuse for missing wide open receivers but every QB has those bad games.

GloryDayz 10-15-2017 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 13153708)
so we aren't going 16-0? We played our shittiest game of the season and still had a chance at the end to win it with our #1, #2, and #3 WR's out for the last drive? Our best pass blocking RB was out for the last drive as well. This was truly a game of beating ourselves. Which is good because it's fixable.

Smith has been all ****ing world this season and had an off game. That happens to every QB, even the the "elite" QB's. No starting C, RG or LG. Our #2 and #3 WR's out for the game. No Berry. And it still took us shitting ourselves to lose.

Yeah, this ain't last year's team. Except for Sutton who continues to drop Houston into coverage well downfield when he should be rushing the passer.

I suppose we'll find out Thursday if any of our 53 have pride. So they come out and dominate, do they lay the hammer down, do they play to the strike zone the NFL officials are giving, or do they come out as the group who were man-handled by their previously-thought equal peers?

Nobody knows. But Andy will probably buy them sprinkles tonight, tell them they'll get a trophy, and ask them to like him on Instaface. And when the NFL tells him they'd mail an apology letter for the official's mistakes, he'll tell them to shred the letter, he's a league man (but his they'll mail him a Subway Sammich...).

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2017 06:47 PM

Contenders.

They weren’t going undefeated.

JFC.


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