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Best22 10-20-2017 07:01 AM

As of today, Alex Smith leads all NFL quarterbacks in
 
Touchdowns (15)
Yards (1959)
Completion percentage (72.4%)
Fewest interceptions thrown (0)
Yards per attempt (8.7)
Rating (120)
Game winning drives (3)

Unfortunately he is the:
2nd most sacked quarterback (21)

(He has played 7 games, while 30 other quarterbacks have played 6, but these stats don't lie)

Mr_Tomahawk 10-20-2017 07:21 AM

Where did he rank BEFORE the game?

PAChiefsGuy 10-20-2017 07:25 AM

He is having an MVP year. Those stats, especially the INTs and compl % are unreal.

Hopefully our defense turns it around because I'd hate to see a year like this wasted.

TLO 10-20-2017 07:25 AM

Too bad the defense ****ing sucks the big one now.

Ragged Robin 10-20-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 13167281)
Where did he rank BEFORE the game?

1st in QBR, 1st in Completion%, 1st in YPA, 1st in TD:INT, 3rd in YPG

Seems nice to me :hmmm:

Also lol @ 1st in game winning drives. That means he led a game winning drive in literally half the games we played before yesterday

loochy 10-20-2017 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13167288)
Too bad the defense ****ing sucks the big one now.

I know, right? I don't get why it always has to be all of one or the other.

kcchiefsus 10-20-2017 07:55 AM

Defense is obviously the primary culprit, but Smith still gets a very small amount of blame IMO for not moving the chains when it mattered at the end to run the clock.

Ken Bone 10-20-2017 07:57 AM

Alex Smith is finally playing the best football of his career, he's playing beyond what most people on CP ever thought he was capable of. However, this defense is reminiscent of the 2003 defense. Eric Warfield and Jerome Woods would be so proud..

Eleazar 10-20-2017 07:58 AM

His propensity to make incredible throws sometimes and overthrow wide open receivers at other times is really pretty puzzling.

TLO 10-20-2017 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 13167344)
His propensity to make incredible throws sometimes and overthrow wide open receivers at other times is really pretty puzzling.

You mean like every other QB in the NFL?

Reerun_KC 10-20-2017 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Bone (Post 13167343)
Alex Smith is finally playing the best football of his career, he's playing beyond what most people on CP ever thought he was capable of. However, this defense is reminiscent of the 2003 defense. Eric Warfield and Jerome Woods would be so proud..



Irony huh? Guess if he wants it bad enough he’ll make it happen and make the plays to continue to win.

Red Dawg 10-20-2017 08:04 AM

Where does he rank in missed throws to wide open recivers to close out games? That is the stat that matters.

RobBlake 10-20-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13167358)
Where does he rank in missed throws to wide open recivers to close out games? That is the stat that matters.

5-2

RobBlake 10-20-2017 08:08 AM

If this was mahomes y'all would be slinging praises loo he's MVP level this year no doubt

Hammock Parties 10-20-2017 08:09 AM

like tears in the rain

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Best22 10-20-2017 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 13167281)
Where did he rank BEFORE the game?

Very high

Red Dawg 10-20-2017 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 13167363)
5-2

Lol. There you have it.

Ken Bone 10-20-2017 08:16 AM

5-2 and leading the NFL in touchdowns is pretty amazing when you're dealing with this shit almost every 3rd down.

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Best22 10-20-2017 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13167358)
Where does he rank in missed throws to wide open recivers to close out games? That is the stat that matters.

On the last two drives the Raiders got pressure on his face which foiled any attempt at a good pass

What is it like to get pressure on the other QB face? We haven't seen it all season


They got pressure, we didn't. We lose

ARROW2 10-20-2017 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 13167335)
Defense is obviously the primary culprit, but Smith still gets a very small amount of blame IMO for not moving the chains when it mattered at the end to run the clock.

Small? After said defense gave him TWO ****ing chances to put the game away? I don't give two ****s about cumulative stats this year. Two games in a row, he had the ball in HIS hands and failed to deliver. This is not trending in the right direction. How many times did he run last night?

ARROW2 10-20-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13167352)
You mean like every other QB in the NFL?

Wow, the defense of this loser is amusing. Brady overcame bad defense in the SB because he is truly an elite QB.

Best22 10-20-2017 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167414)
Small? After said defense gave him TWO ****ing chances to put the game away? I don't give two ****s about cumulative stats this year. Two games in a row, he had the ball in HIS hands and failed to deliver. This is not trending in the right direction. How many times did he run last night?

Smith is a pass first, run second guy. He used to run at first sign of pressure. Now he stays in there and delivers. It's what we all wanted:rolleyes:

ARROW2 10-20-2017 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Bone (Post 13167393)
5-2 and leading the NFL in touchdowns is pretty amazing when you're dealing with this shit almost every 3rd down.

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Alex panicked, he could have escaped that. Mack was falling down.

Best22 10-20-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167417)
Wow, the defense of this loser is amusing. Brady overcame bad defense in the SB because he is truly an elite QB.

Brady's defense allowed 21 points to the red hot Falcon offense (Brady threw pick 6). Smiths defense allows 31 to the Raiders offense

Brady scored 28 in regulation, Alex 30

What's your point?

ARROW2 10-20-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13167420)
Smith is a pass first, run second guy. He used to run at first sign of pressure. Now he stays in there and delivers. It's what we all wanted:rolleyes:

Smith is only effective when he IS running because he doesn't have the confidence in his arm to do it and his vision sucks. He sailed balls all night, even completions to wide open receivers.

ARROW2 10-20-2017 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13167420)
Smith is a pass first, run second guy. He used to run at first sign of pressure. Now he stays in there and delivers. It's what we all wanted:rolleyes:

I wanted him gone and he will be after this year, so what is the point? They are hoping that this is the year (his 13th, 14th, whatever) that he FINALLY puts it together. ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL



We are probably the only team in NFL history that gave away a third, next year's first and traded UP 17 ****ING SPOTS for a QB and didn't start him. What a ****ing joke of a franchise. **** ANDY for not having any BALLS. Walrus ass bitch!

Best22 10-20-2017 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167433)
I wanted him gone and he will be after this year, so what is the point? They are hoping that this is the year (his 13th, 14th, whatever) that he FINALLY puts it together. ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL



We are probably the only team in NFL history that gave away a third, next year's first and traded UP 17 ****ING SPOTS for a QB and didn't start him. What a ****ing joke of a franchise. **** ANDY for not having any BALLS. Walrus ass bitch!

I'm sure Mahomes would throw 15 TD, 0 INT, and 2009 yards

We'd be like 3-4, 4-3 at best with Mahomes

ARROW2 10-20-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13167427)
Brady's defense allowed 21 points to the red hot Falcon offense (Brady threw pick 6). Smiths defense allows 31 to the Raiders offense

Brady scored 28 in regulation, Alex 30

What's your point?

You ****ing idiot. Brady made the biggest comeback in SB history, despite his D being handled in that game. Even overcame a pick 6 and WON THE DAMN GAME when it counted. Alex is trumpeted for not throwing a pick. So ****ing what?

ARROW2 10-20-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13167435)
I'm sure Mahomes would throw 15 TD, 0 INT, and 2009 yards

We'd be like 3-4, 4-3 at best with Mahomes

bullshit.

Best22 10-20-2017 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167437)
You ****ing idiot. Brady made the biggest comeback in SB history, despite his D being handled in that game. Even overcame a pick 6 and WON THE DAMN GAME when it counted. Alex is trumpeted for not throwing a pick. So ****ing what?

If Brady's defense was as poor as ours in LI, Falcons win 45-20.

Atleast

Mile High Mania 10-20-2017 08:52 AM

Alex is certainly playing well, the 0 INTs is the most fantastic of all those stats. As you mentioned, he has 1 more game under his belt with this being the first game of week 7.

TDs, he is tied with Watson (2 fewer games). Brady, Wentz and Stafford could tie or pass him after this week's games.

Yardage, another strong mark - Brady is right behind him with Palmer and Rivers about a game in reach.

Safe to say that few expected this type of production, speaks highly of Hill and Hunt opening things up for Alex, Kelce and the others. And, not saying that to deminish what he's done, just evidence that Smith (like so many others) needs playmakers and the ability to make plays.

Will be interesting to see where he lands next year...

Dartgod 10-20-2017 09:13 AM

Arrow focusing his anger on Alex, when the defense last night gave up over 500 yards of offense and 31 total points.

Dumb ass...

Red Dawg 10-20-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167417)
Wow, the defense of this loser is amusing. Brady overcame bad defense in the SB because he is truly an elite QB.

No he didn't. He has never had a defense lower than 10. Last year they were 1 in points allowed.

Mile High Mania 10-20-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13167527)
Arrow focusing his anger on Alex, when the defense last night gave up over 500 yards of offense and 31 total points.

Dumb ass...

I think that's it more than anything...

505, 439, 392, 406 ... that's a lot of yards given up in those 4 games.

PAChiefsGuy 10-20-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13167555)
I think that's it more than anything...

505, 439, 392, 406 ... that's a lot of yards given up in those 4 games.

Our defense is horrible. We don't anything well right now. Nothing. It is hard to watch.

ChiTown 10-20-2017 10:01 AM

Without Morse, LDT and how shitty Fisher is playing, I'm amazed he has the stats he does. Remarkable job by AS11, imo.

Kaepernick 10-20-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13167397)
On the last two drives the Raiders got pressure on his face which foiled any attempt at a good pass

What is it like to get pressure on the other QB face? We haven't seen it all season


They got pressure, we didn't. We lose

Brady was sacked 3 times and under pressure all night in game 1.

Best22 10-20-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 13167786)
Brady was sacked 3 times and under pressure all night in game 1.

True. And that was a win

notorious 10-20-2017 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 13167555)
I think that's it more than anything...

505, 439, 392, 406 ... that's a lot of yards given up in those 4 games.

It's obvious.


The Chiefs have went from a team that had to play flawless defense to win to having to play flawless offense to win.


Alex has been playing excellent this year except for some bad missed passes against Pitt.

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13167527)
Arrow focusing his anger on Alex, when the defense last night gave up over 500 yards of offense and 31 total points.

Dumb ass...

No, you are the dumb ass. Get one first down and the game is over. he had two chances that that the DEFENSE gave him during the last 6 minutes of the game. So-called MVPs come through in those situations. Sometimes you have to win shootouts and that has always been a knock on Alex is can you win a shootout with him. I see you still can't. Shootouts happen, sometimes both teams score a lot of points against normally good defenses. But a great QB finds a way to win, ESPECIALLY when the ball is in his hands and his d has been a little loose all night. Why leave it up to the D (even though they made two huge stops late in the 4th to give sir choke a lot a chance to put it away) when you are the so-called MVP and having your best year ever?



**** YOU and anybody who covers for sir choke a lot.


You bought into the "new" alex narrative, I did not.

Mav 10-20-2017 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13167527)
Arrow focusing his anger on Alex, when the defense last night gave up over 500 yards of offense and 31 total points.

Dumb ass...



If Alex were better the defense wouldn’t suck!
-Arrow2 logic


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ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13167551)
No he didn't. He has never had a defense lower than 10. Last year they were 1 in points allowed.


Talking about the SB, they were getting torched. Which makes my point, sometimes you have to win a shootout because for some reason or another, the d is struggling. The offenses in this league can get it going sometimes. That is why you need a QB who is not a pussy and will put the game away instead of turtling up and hoping the D comes through so when they don't, he won't take the blame. F that guy.

wazu 10-20-2017 11:12 AM

Man, we would’ve KILLED for this Alex for years! Then the Chiefs finally go all-in on a 1st round QB and this happens. This almost makes me hate Alex more.

Mav 10-20-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167820)
No, you are the dumb ass. Get one first down and the game is over. he had two chances that that the DEFENSE gave him during the last 6 minutes of the game. So-called MVPs come through in those situations. Sometimes you have to win shootouts and that has always been a knock on Alex is can you win a shootout with him. I see you still can't. Shootouts happen, sometimes both teams score a lot of points against normally good defenses. But a great QB finds a way to win, ESPECIALLY when the ball is in his hands and his d has been a little loose all night. Why leave it up to the D (even though they made two huge stops late in the 4th to give sir choke a lot a chance to put it away) when you are the so-called MVP and having your best year ever?



**** YOU and anybody who covers for sir choke a lot.


You bought into the "new" alex narrative, I did not.



Romper room candidate?


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MahiMike 10-20-2017 11:15 AM

That's my fantasy QB baby!

MahiMike 10-20-2017 11:17 AM

At least I still have my fantasy team. I didn't even want to do it anymore cause I wanted to concentrate on just the chiefs. With this defense it's all a fantasy anyway.

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167827)
If Alex were better the defense wouldn’t suck!
-Arrow2 logic


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They certainly would have gotten more rest against Pitt after that stellar one first down and 6 yard showing in the first half last week. It always comes down to the QB You don't realize that DESPITE all the shit you are talking about the D, Alex could have erased all of that shit and put the game away but his dumb ass takes a sack and then goes 3 and out after the D stops Oakland again to give oak one last shot. Stay blind. Even when we had great defenses that gave up only 10 and 14 points, we lost both playoff games because we had Bono and Grbac. Alex didn't even look good on most of his completions last night. Dudes had to reach for it all night, even when wide open.

Ragged Robin 10-20-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167844)
Alex didn't even look good on most of his completions last night. Dudes had to reach for it all night, even when wide open.

ROFL

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167833)
Romper room candidate?


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47 years and counting. Chiefs, the only team in history to aggressively trade up 17 spots, give up a 3rd, next year's first, for a QB, watch said QB light it up in preseason and sit him.


Exactly who is the romper room candidate?

JakeF 10-20-2017 11:21 AM

ArrowheadPride is taking the position that the defense is just fine that it's the offense that is at fault.

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 13167848)
ROFL

It's true. Go look at the game. Even the Kelce td was just a great catch, horrible throw. Wilson TD, horrible underthrow that should have been picked.
Robinson and Tyreek routinely having to expose their ribs to make the catch. **** all of you losers, you deserve the agony that is upcoming.



Dawson = AFCC and SB
Montana = AFFC


Only times in our history we made it that far. You figure out the common denominator. In between? Nothing but mediocre QBs and heartache.



Last home playoff win? 94 with Old ass Montana.




What a ****ing joke. You Smith jockers and the Smith deserve each other.

Easy 6 10-20-2017 11:25 AM

I dont give a shit what anyone says, 25 of 36 for 342 and 3 TD should be enough to win every ****ing game we play

This was NOT on Alex Smith

Ragged Robin 10-20-2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167856)
Dawson = AFCC and SB
Montana = AFFC

Only times in our history we made it that far. You figure out the common denominator. In between? Nothing but mediocre QBs and heartache.

Last home playoff win? 94 with Old ass Montana.

What a ****ing joke. You Smith jockers and the Smith deserve each other.

And after all that a typical Chiefs loss like this still makes you so upset that you need to desperately dig for reasons to blame the QB after a near perfect performance despite the defense giving up an outrageous 500 yards ROFL

Straight up clowning. You should be pretty familiar by now to not let games like these get to you.

Mav 10-20-2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167851)
47 years and counting. Chiefs, the only team in history to aggressively trade up 17 spots, give up a 3rd, next year's first, for a QB, watch said QB light it up in preseason and sit him.





Exactly who is the romper room candidate?



Except that every expert said from the get go that of the first round qbs that were drafted that Mahomes would need the most time. But I think you should apply to be on the Chiefs staff. Clearly you know more than anyone else.


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ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:29 AM

Name another franchise that would give up what they did for Mahomes, watch him look good with his opportunities and then sit him. You won't find it. Never mind KC hasn't taken a first round QB in 34 ****ing years. When they get aggressive and do it, they get scared to play him and take the safe route. What the **** has that gotten us in damn near 50 years?

Hammock Parties 10-20-2017 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13167858)
I dont give a shit what anyone says, 25 of 36 for 342 and 3 TD should be enough to win every ****ing game we play

This was NOT on Alex Smith

Alex Smith is 9-41-1 when the opponent scores 24+

Best22 10-20-2017 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167856)
It's true. Go look at the game. Even the Kelce td was just a great catch, horrible throw. Wilson TD, horrible underthrow that should have been picked.
Robinson and Tyreek routinely having to expose their ribs to make the catch. **** all of you losers, you deserve the agony that is upcoming.



Dawson = AFCC and SB
Montana = AFFC


Only times in our history we made it that far. You figure out the common denominator. In between? Nothing but mediocre QBs and heartache.



Last home playoff win? 94 with Old ass Montana.




What a ****ing joke. You Smith jockers and the Smith deserve each other.

Dawson and Montana had good defenses. Especially Dawson. 1969 was special

Brady would not have won the Superbowl last year with this KC defense

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13167873)
Alex Smith is 9-41-1 when the opponent scores 24+



BINGO!!!! Speaks for itself. He can't win shootouts.

Easy 6 10-20-2017 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13167873)
Alex Smith is 9-41-1 when the opponent scores 24+

Dont give a shit, when he compiled that record he wasnt playing like he is these days... last night was plenty good enough to win if the defense doesnt roll over like a cheap whore

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13167882)
Dawson and Montana had good defenses. Especially Dawson. 1969 was special

Brady would not have won the Superbowl last year with this KC defense

Bono and Grbac had great defenses in 95 and 97. Montana did more with that cast and also had hall of famers like Willie Davis, JJ Birden, Fred Jones, Keith Cash, etc. lol

Hammock Parties 10-20-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13167886)
Dont give a shit, when he compiled that record he wasnt playing like he is these days... last night was plenty good enough to win if the defense doesnt roll over like a cheap whore

He didn't lose that game, he just didn't go win it.

RunKC 10-20-2017 11:37 AM

Tom Brady has never won a SB without a top 10 defense.

Putting this game on Alex is beyond moronic.

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167864)
Except that every expert said from the get go that of the first round qbs that were drafted that Mahomes would need the most time. But I think you should apply to be on the Chiefs staff. Clearly you know more than anyone else.


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Need the most time based on what? Certainly not his preseason performance. highest rated QB in the preseason, vet or rookie.

Mav 10-20-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167869)
Name another franchise that would give up what they did for Mahomes, watch him look good with his opportunities and then sit him. You won't find it. Never mind KC hasn't taken a first round QB in 34 ****ing years. When they get aggressive and do it, they get scared to play him and take the safe route. What the **** has that gotten us in damn near 50 years?



So even though Alex Smith is playing like a top 3 qb in the league through roughly half the season you would sit him? Of the Chiefs were 2-5, you’d have a point. But they are 5-2.....


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ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13167898)
Tom Brady has never won a SB without a top 10 defense.

Putting this game on Alex is beyond moronic.


Hopefully that is sarcasm with the Mahomes avatar. What did we do with out top 10 defenses in 95 and 97 with Bono and Grbac?

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167904)
So even though Alex Smith is playing like a top 3 qb in the league through roughly half the season you would sit him? Of the Chiefs were 2-5, you’d have a point. But they are 5-2.....


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I would have started the rookie from the jump. We know how the Smith movie ends. Don't be that aggressive to get Mahomes only to sit him. Makes no ****ing sense. Nobody has EVER been that aggressive to get a project. If that is what they had in mind, they are stupid as ****.

Mav 10-20-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167900)
Need the most time based on what? Certainly not his preseason performance. highest rated QB in the preseason, vet or rookie.



Playing vanilla defenses with scrubs, and against scrubs means very little. For reference, Trubisky who I believe is the best qb in the draft is struggling. There is an adjustment. Andy won’t waste a potentially playoff bound success of a team just to appease a fan base. Right or wrong.


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Mav 10-20-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167907)
I would have started the rookie from the jump. We know how the Smith movie ends. Don't be that aggressive to get Mahomes only to sit him. Makes no ****ing sense. Nobody has EVER been that aggressive to get a project. If that is what they had in mind, they are stupid as ****.



I firmly believe 1000 percent that getting Mahomes was a 2018 move.


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Easy 6 10-20-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13167897)
He didn't lose that game, he just didn't go win it.

Thats a have your cake and eat it too way of putting it, and it doesnt pass muster

Mav 10-20-2017 11:44 AM

Btw, the Texans were equally aggressive and didn’t start Watson...,


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ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167908)
Playing vanilla defenses with scrubs, and against scrubs means very little. For reference, Trubisky who I believe is the best qb in the draft is struggling. There is an adjustment. Andy won’t waste a potentially playoff bound success of a team just to appease a fan base. Right or wrong.


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What playoff bound success? Another early exit?

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167913)
I firmly believe 1000 percent that getting Mahomes was a 2018 move.


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Then it is stupid to give up what they gave up to get him if that is the case.

RunKC 10-20-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167905)
Hopefully that is sarcasm with the Mahomes avatar. What did we do with out top 10 defenses in 95 and 97 with Bono and Grbac?

Alex has played like an MVP candidate in 6/7 games. That never happened with Grbac or Bono.

Mav 10-20-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167919)
Then it is stupid to give up what they gave up to get him if that is the case.



Not if you feel he is a generational talent. Not at all.


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ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167915)
Btw, the Texans were equally aggressive and didn’t start Watson...,


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He is starting now. BTW, they wanted Mahomes BADLY!!!

Hammock Parties 10-20-2017 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13167914)
Thats a have your cake and eat it too way of putting it, and it doesnt pass muster

It's just the facts.

He had two chances to seal the deal and didn't get it done.

Doesn't mean he lost the game, he just didn't flash that killer instinct...you remember...the killer blow...50,000 Romans....

More of that, plz.

ARROW2 10-20-2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13167921)
Not if you feel he is a generational talent. Not at all.


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If you feel he is generational talent, then you are stupid as **** to sit him.

Ming the Merciless 10-20-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13167858)
I dont give a shit what anyone says, 25 of 36 for 342 and 3 TD should be enough to win every ****ing game we play

This was NOT on Alex Smith

false

it wasnt enough to win this game, because the defense shit the bed.

he needed 1 more 1st down, maybe 2 when the defense (miraculously) somehow stopped them in the final couple minutes of the game and handed him the ball with the lead.

The defense was mainly to blame , absolutely...but come on man...not 5% of the fault here?

Easy 6 10-20-2017 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13167923)
It's just the facts.

He had two chances to seal the deal and didn't get it done.

Doesn't mean he lost the game, he just didn't flash that killer instinct...you remember...the killer blow...50,000 Romans....

More of that, plz.

Killer instinct like a 3 play, 99 yard drive?

That kind of killer instinct?

Mav 10-20-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 13167922)
He is starting now. BTW, they wanted Mahomes BADLY!!!



That’s only because Tom Savage sucked, which Alex Smith hasn’t. For the record the Browns wanted Mahomes too.


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