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jspchief 11-12-2017 08:57 PM

Breakdown of Cowboys D vs Chiefs O
 
Something to look at.

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ptlyon 11-12-2017 09:03 PM

We had no O. Point blank. Don't need to watch it.

ThaVirus 11-12-2017 09:53 PM

Before I watch I'm going to take a wild stab: Kareem was forced to dodge multiple defenders in the backfield on numerous runs and Alex was missing open receivers.

I'll be back momentarily..

Three7s 11-12-2017 10:03 PM

For those of you who'd rather not watch and might want a summary, he's saying the main reason the Cowboys stopped hunt is by the corners setting the edges and taking the edge away. As for the secondary, there were a lot of mixed and disguised coverages combined with a superior Cowboys pass-rush going against a lesser Chiefs O-line.

In other words, the Chiefs O-line is bad......so nothing new here.

Sandy Vagina 11-12-2017 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 13213866)
In other words, the Chiefs O-line is bad......so nothing new here.

Thank you. Was too unmotivated to watch.

dannybcaitlyn 11-12-2017 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 13213866)
For those of you who'd rather not watch and might want a summary, he's saying the main reason the Cowboys stopped hunt is by the corners setting the edges and taking the edge away. As for the secondary, there were a lot of mixed and disguised coverages combined with a superior Cowboys pass-rush going against a lesser Chiefs O-line.

In other words, the Chiefs O-line is bad......so nothing new here.

Hopefully Andy Heck is gone with Sutton and his defensive staff at the end of the season.

ThaVirus 11-12-2017 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13213827)
Before I watch I'm going to take a wild stab: Kareem was forced to dodge multiple defenders in the backfield on numerous runs and Alex was missing open receivers.

I'll be back momentarily..

Yep.

The OL isn't good and Alex struggles mightily against exotic coverages.

T-post Tom 11-12-2017 10:18 PM

Amazing how often Hill is open. (Unless he's being blatantly held.) Oversimplification, but any play where they keep in an extra blocker and make Hill his primary read is going to put the odds of success in their favor. Putting Hill in motion ups the advantage even more. Hill would be breaking records if he had an elite QB passing the ball. (Not trying to start another Alex hijack thread.)

milkman 11-12-2017 10:33 PM

Amazing how our "smart" QB is outsmarted so much more than other smart QBs.

Molitoth 11-12-2017 10:33 PM

This video is thickening.

http://media2.kshb.com//photo/2012/1...44_640_480.JPG

Molitoth 11-12-2017 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13213942)
Amazing how our "smart" QB is outsmarted so much more than other smart QBs.

Alex and Andy are GURU's I tell you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6-3 baby!!!! All they do is win.

jspchief 11-13-2017 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13213942)
Amazing how our "smart" QB is outsmarted so much more than other smart QBs.

Yeah that's the thing I took from the video. While he's good against obvious zones, he appears to be pretty bad at deciphering any kind of disguised defense.

Scary part is it's a blueprint for shutting down the offense. The Oline is not very good. If the QB can't read defenses pre-snap, he's going to have a bad time.

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dannybcaitlyn 11-13-2017 07:03 AM

I’m predicting a 9-7 finish for us. The schedule really doesn’t get any easier. Smith hasn’t been the same since the Steelers game and we have a defense that can’t get its shit together.

Marcellus 11-13-2017 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 13214151)
I’m predicting a 9-7 finish for us. The schedule really doesn’t get any easier. Smith hasn’t been the same since the Steelers game and we have a defense that can’t get its shit together.

LMAO

HemiEd 11-13-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 13214151)
I’m predicting a 9-7 finish for us. The schedule really doesn’t get any easier. Smith hasn’t been the same since the Steelers game and we have a defense that can’t get its shit together.

Damn, doom and gloom this morning. I disagree, but hey.

I think they will come out after the break playing lights out.

InChiefsHeaven 11-13-2017 08:13 AM

It's a good video, thanks for posting.

Chiefnj2 11-13-2017 08:58 AM

Excellent find.

For those who are lazy, the keys to stopping KC's offense:

1. Load the box.
2. Pressure - KC's OL can't block for very long at all. WR's don't have time to get downfield.
3. Disguise cover 2 and cover 3.
4. CB's have to be aggressive in playing the run and getting to the outside, setting the edge.
5. Take away the middle zone that Smith always goes to.

Who on the schedule has good disciplined corners who like to play the run? Seems like that is the first step to beating KC because once you have that you can be aggressive up the gut and stop them.

Simply Red 11-13-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 13214182)
It's a good video, thanks for posting.

thank you

Great Expectations 11-13-2017 09:10 AM

Shouldn’t we be heavy favorites in all our remaining games?

ARROW2 11-13-2017 09:19 AM

In other words, we are going nowhere with Alex Smiff. He is playing why again? If we lose to the giants.............You think I am being hard on the beav now......

RunKC 11-13-2017 09:26 AM

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Every team now knows that Alex will concentrate on the blitzes instead of looking downfield. Just insane that he doesn't throw this ball to Tyreek, who is wide open 7 yards away from the nearest defender.

This is the exact kind of play that fits Pat. A QB who has a quick release and strong arm easily flicks that ball to Tyreek.

HC_Chief 11-13-2017 09:33 AM

Damn, this was a great analysis/break-down of how an even mediocre D can dominate Reid's offense.

RunKC 11-13-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13214227)
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Every team now knows that Alex will concentrate on the blitzes instead of looking downfield. Just insane that he doesn't throw this ball to Tyreek, who is wide open 7 yards away from the nearest defender.

This is the exact kind of play that fits Pat. A QB who has a quick release and strong arm easily flicks that ball to Tyreek.

Here's what's I'm talking about. Quick flick of the wrist and bam.

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Simply Red 11-13-2017 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 13214235)
Damn, this was a great analysis/break-down of how an even mediocre D can dominate Reid's offense.

thank you

The Franchise 11-13-2017 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 13213866)
For those of you who'd rather not watch and might want a summary, he's saying the main reason the Cowboys stopped hunt is by the corners setting the edges and taking the edge away. As for the secondary, there were a lot of mixed and disguised coverages combined with a superior Cowboys pass-rush going against a lesser Chiefs O-line.

In other words, the Chiefs O-line is bad......so nothing new here.

Yeah. Totally all the o-lines fault. :rolleyes:

Pasta Little Brioni 11-13-2017 10:58 AM

Mahomes will go off in this offense

Hammock Parties 11-13-2017 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13214236)
Here's what's I'm talking about. Quick flick of the wrist and bam.

<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/1zanxw"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1zanxw.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

We have no idea what we've been missing.

The game manager skillset has mostly ruined this fan base's idea of what QB play should look like.

Chiefnj2 11-13-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13214310)
Yeah. Totally all the o-lines fault. :rolleyes:

The biggest reason the Offense is struggling is the OL in recent weeks.

The Franchise 11-13-2017 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13214399)
The biggest reason the Offense is struggling is the OL in recent weeks.

It's PART of the reason. It's not the entire reason.

ThaVirus 11-13-2017 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13214236)
Here's what's I'm talking about. Quick flick of the wrist and bam.

<a href="https://imgflip.com/gif/1zanxw"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1zanxw.gif" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

His mechanics are garbage. I really hope they've been ironing out those kinks.

dj56dt58 11-13-2017 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13214375)
We have no idea what we've been missing.

The game manager skillset has mostly ruined this fan base's idea of what QB play should look like.

I get your point but Alex makes throws like that all the time


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