playing in a black jack tourney
 

tomorrow afternoon at a casino.

what are your tournament do's and don'ts.
looks like 3 tables of 6. $500 in chips to start. (after looking a bit more in depth, 4 start times each w/ 3 tables of 6 people).

i've played at the tables for years. but never a tournament. obviously the person with the most chips at the end wins. just wondering if my other degenerate gambling friends play this. and what's the best (winning) strategy to go in with.

thanks in advance,

CT94

Watch “Casino” , find a buddy, and use a signaling device.

Count cards. They'll never catch on.

31 years old and still don’t know what a ****ing double down is.

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How does one win another's chips in blackjack? Do you rotate dealing or something?

Ultimately, you just gotta play the cards you are dealt and stick to the rules. You will want split and double down opportunities for sure.

In your case it’s when you go to KFC to order chicken and instead of ordering a bucket of chicken for your whole family you “double down” and order two just for yourself.

Always split 10's

Play smart. Don't trust any "gut" feelings.

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Don't do this

Where will you be? PM me.

from what i understand, its everyone at a table as normal, with a dealer.
i'm not sure if it is last man standing, or if there is a time limit.

and i will split tens, just as i do everytime. thanks for looking out for me.......

Noooooooooooooooooooooo. Don't split the damn 10's!

hey my new buddy: no duh!!!

sorry, my sarcasm light was not flashing.

just playing, braugh.....

LMAO

Ok good! :clap:

PM sent, fooooooo!

I have played in one. Usually a time limit. How many decks are you playing? Dealing out of shoe or hand? Who is assigned to first base, that is where you can control the table. The thing you can't plan for is what the inexperienced player will do. If they split 10's against a dealers 6, it make take 2 to 3 hands to recover. If single deck it evens your odds a little. I like to bet little in the beginning, then more aggressive towards the end of the time limit.

this is great info. thanks renegade!!

more than likely 6 deck. that's standard at most casinos, right? and im sure it would be machine shuffled.

Coming from the guy who has never seen the inside of a gym :)

If In48men was there you could use smoke signals.

Where's that pic of you holding a dildo by your face?

I used to deal Black Jack in a Casino, lol. Here's what I can say from the dealer... If you're counting, but tipping me nice, I'm oblivious. The eyes in the sky will catch up to you if you're not relatively discreet. There's not rules against it, it's just the Casino doesn't like to get taken. There's nothing wrong with playing cards smart. My advice there, learn to count cards.

You can't count cards, so here's some basics on playing the hand out (these may change a bit with count, but its not that big of a deal).

Your Total/Dealers Up/Your Strat (H/S/D for Hit Stand Double)
9/26/D, 9/7A/H
10/29/D, 10/10A/H
11/2A/D
H12/23/H, H12/46/S, H12/7A/H
H13/26/S, H13/7A/H
H14-16/26/S, H14-16/7A/H
H17-21/2A/S
S13-16/23/H, S13-16/46/D, S13-16/7A/H
S17/26/D, S17/7A/H
S18/2,78,A/S, S18/36/D, S18/910/H
S19-21/2A/S

How to read that...
Say you're looking at H12/46/S... On your Hard 12, with dealer having a 4 through 6 up, Stand. Another (10/29/D), on your 10, dealer having 2 through 9 up, Double.

Always split As and 8s.
Never split 10s and 5s.
Never take Insurance (because you can't count. If you can, you're buying information).

You normally raise bets agains the count. The more favorable the deck, the more you increase your wager. But you can't count cards.

I'd probably try hard to at least pay attention to the 10s that go out and increase wagers as the shoe ends if you have a favorable deck in that regard. Easy count is +1 for 3-6 and -1 for 10. Divide this by approximate half decks in the shoe to get your "true count" approximation. If it's +, increase your bet. A solid rule would be to add a chip to your wager for every whole number your true count is + (although you'd want to start doubling that at +3 if you were being smart).

It's hard to win in Black Jack by blindly increasing your wagers. If you can't/won't count, then I'd try to be semi-consistent with your bets.

kccrow you're saying learn to count cards, then saying you can't count cards. Great post. I like it. But I'm confused.

I learned how to count cards throughout all of 2016. I practice at home occasionally now. But I never used it at a real table. ;)

This is absolutely irrelevant. A dumb move by another player has just as much chance to help you as hurt you.

And splitting 10s is an aggressive move that might be a good one in a tournament if you are behind and need to play catch-up.

This is also pretty irrelevant, unless you are an advanced card counter. Otherwise, what difference does it really make in a tournament if you're playing single deck or 6?

1 tip I like to give is to use the unit ladder system.

In games like Baccarat and blackjack, if you're not counting cards in blackjack, then use the ladder system. Basically start at the minimum bet. Regardless of how low it is, just start there. When you win a hand, stay at your base bet. When you lose a hand, add one unit towards the next hand.

For instance, the base bet is $5. You lose that bet. Add 1 unit. Your bet is now $10. You lose that bet. Your next bet is now $15. Now say you win that bet, you move back down to $10. Keep track of your bets, don't lose track of your ladder. It's all about bankroll.

If every bettor left the casino or quit gambling after being up $40 the casinos would go bankrupt. The problem is people always have this urge to hit a certain $ goal amount when they walk into the casino. It's EASY to get up $40 at a table game. But you can do that within 10 minutes. It's not fun for people to leave after 10 minutes. They keep playing until they end up losing.

Dodger Dodging Dildos, nice.

Good shit here...

Completely irrelevant to a tournament.

I don't have an understanding of tournament rules. I was kinda just rambling information I've used.

Mostly irrelevant to a tournament. You're just repeating basic strategy.
Does anyone bother reading?

Big difference is you're not just playing against the house. You're playing against the other players as well.

You generally play basic strategy as you normally would, but you also have to adjust your betting and decisions depending on where you are compared to the other players. That might mean taking extra risks (like splitting 10s against a 5 or 6) when you're behind and easing up if you're ahead.

Tournaments you actually benefit to split your 10s.

and in tournaments, there might be situations where you'll need to double on 14 or something. Not much choice if you're way behind with a few hands left to play.

The goal of a tournament is to make the most money. He doesn't stand a chance if he isn't counting anyhow. Period. You're ****ing reeruned, as usual.

The goal is to make more than your competitors--and to not bottom out. Lose your stake at a tournament, you're OUT. Lose it while just playing, you just buy more chips and keep playing if you want. That might (more likely will) mean betting and making decisions that you wouldn't make if you're just playing against the house. You giving him basic strategy helps only if he doesn't know the first thing about blackjack.

And someone can definitely win a tournament without counting. And if they are playing from a 6-8 deck shoe, which they probably are, counting becomes nearly worthless unless you're really advanced. And in a tournament, if you are counting and good at it, it would make even more sense to deviate a bit from strict basic strategy.

I can, the OP said he can't. I gave a basic for counting that he could learn quickly. I think he really needs to use it.

Pretty damn sure I told him how to increase his bets based on favorable deck.

Talk about a blanket statement here... What if the deck is unfavorable? What are the dealer's up cards? You still HAVE to play against the house.

You have take risks when they are strategically appropriate against the house and the players.

For instance, Rabbi said split 10's sometimes. If you split 10's against a dealer up card of 5, and the count is -, then there is a solid chance the dealer doesn't bust and a solid chance you give yourself two sub-17's. So, if you're going to make this relatively stupid play because it's a last ditch effort, do it when you can also double-down (especially if you end up with a 12 on one of your splits).

I remember having that rule card when I learned the game sitting at the $2 table with my dad at Barbary Coast many years ago. Sigh. It's like memorizing the multipcation tables. Once you have it hard wired the game becomes automated with the only challenge being having the discipline to make the correct play when it seems futile to do so.

Yeah its very close to the casino cards. Not quite, but close. I think the Casino cards say to split everything against a 6 or less except 10's, 5's, and 4's. Dealing the game, there's a lot of dumb players with no discipline, tournaments or not.

I had one my dad did for me, didn't include split all against 6. He took me the week I turned 21, loved the game ever since. Back in the day when they gave free cigarettes and drinks. The semi old school vegas though I'd like to have been there during the heyday. Yep I learned to go to the higher stakes table to avoid the undisciplined and to get up and walk if one showed up.
Great post by the way.

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Had this one guy that came in every week... He was clueless, but it was a fun time. He'd usually play between $100 and $1000 a hand... You never knew what he'd do though. Usually, if he lost a hand, he'd throw big on the next one. Seemed he was always walking out $10k+ down. He just didn't know how to bet, when to raise, etc. Alot of the time, he'd throw a couple hands down at one table then move onto another and bounce back and forth. Had no clue about the deck, just running completely and foolishly blind.


The game I like is Roulette. You can win if you're patient and know how to play it.

LoL at the bottom line of this post.

True

so, i got invited to play in a craps tournament. ive never played craps. only reason im interested is its free.
gonna jump on the youtubes and see some strategies. who knows something about craps?

I watched a Simpsons episode once where they were in Las Vegas, and as they drove down the Strip, one of the casino billboards advertised, "Loosest Craps In Town". I laugh every time I think of it.

I'm laughing now.

None were given.

Thank you for making my evening. I'm still laughing.

There is almost no strategy. You're best bet is to either bet the no pass, which will make everyone hate you(you may not care about this)or pound the hard ways and hope to get lucky.

I don't like playing craps. Roulette though, which people seemingly avoid like the plague, is a nice money maker if you know what you're doing and you're patient.

What do you do? Mathematically double zero roulette is worse than craps or blackjack. I still play it because it's fun and if I go to a casino it is for entertainment.

don't forget this is a completely free tourny. just was wanting some advice and bets to make/not make. there was an interesting video on the youtubes with a guy who bet the minumum on "the crap". everytime he lost, he would add 1 chip from the previous bet. he swore by this method, and in the 20 hands he played (starting with $500) he was up a few hundred.

just thought it to be interesting, epecially since i'd never played.....

I'll send you a PM

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Hi all. Who played on the sites of online casinos? What are the odds of winning t? Are there any specific rules for online casinos and a blackjack?

What, exactly, are you laughing at?

Me stating I prefer to play Roulette? The fact you can make some good money at it?

No matter the game, you're probably going to lose money. The odds are never in your favor.

I never once disagreed with anyone that craps and blackjack have better odds, so you don't have that either. If you sit and play Pass, Odds, Place on craps all night, you're not giving much away to the house. Have fun with it. I'm just not much of a fan of the game.