So the NFL was on full display this weekend
 

They think anthem protests are why the ratings are down huh? Or because "Oh my god we're gonna get the thug rep the NBA had" etc etc. No I think you're rating are down because there is zero consistency in anything I ****ing see.

The Zebra's were out there deciding playoff games yet they wonder why a huge chunk of fans are leaving. The NFL can think it's the younger generation with it's short attention span and desire to stare at it's phones that is leaving..I don't. I think it's hardcore fans that have seen enough.

Let's take this for example, obviously everyone here watched that abomination of officiating that took place in the Chiefs game. Move to later that day, the Falcons entire gameplay was to basically butt**** the Rams receivers all over the field. We've been taught for years that basically breathing on a receiver is not ok but in that game I'm pretty sure they could have raped them on the field to no flag. I've seen guys go to jail for less than what was done to Sammy Watkins in that game.

Then yesterday, we've been conditioned that you can't touch a QB's head, you can't tackle him low etc etc...then I watch Tyrod Taylor get his head basically jammed into the ground with a chokehold tackle and they don't flag that? The guy would have been suspeded for a year had he done that to Brady.

Adding to that not saying Carolina was gonna win but that Intentional Grounding penalty was also complete bullshit and decided the game.

At the end of the day, there is no consistency and rules are worded in a way that they can make any call they want and it can be justified. Yet they wonder why people don't give a shit anymore. All this league has turned into is big markets and stars.

Matt Ryan is about to be one of the few good QB's left in the league so gotta prop up the Falcons. Brees is coming to the end so gotta push him up. If Jacksonville doesn't find a QB they're gonna be the Chiefs no matter how good that defense is...and then people wonder why this shit looks rigged.

I haven’t watched any football since we lost, but I have no doubt in my mind that this game is rigged towards getting better tv ratings. I had a little bit of faith left that it was somewhat legitimate, but it’s gone after that abomination Saturday. **** the NFL.

The refs are the "auto-adjust" for NFL games.

Game becoming a blowout? Throw a defensive holding flag or take away an obvious fumble to prop up the losing team. Call holding on the offense if the team is about to go up big.

Sometimes they can't control it because it's so lopsided.


I've seen it too many times in too many games not associated with the Chiefs to believe we are bitching just because we suck.

Right after we went up 14-0 and got the ball back, they called a phantom offensive holding call on Schwartz to kill the drive and keep the game close. An early blowout kills tv ratings.

Absolutely they don't want blowouts at all. Add to that their desire to push the soap opera story aspect of the game and then you get what we have.

Marcus Mariota is more interesting to a casual fan and was such a high pick the NFL has reason to push him above us.

Referees ****ed the Titans over just as badly as they ****ed us over.

Well, they won’t be getting any calls next week, that’s for sure. Of course that game will really be over at halftime and it won’t matter.

They did? Did they openly steal points from them?

Cyprien was headhunting and got no penalties either, so I tend to disagree.

I don't see why they want the Titans to move on. I think that they tried to keep the game artificially close and it blew up in their face because Chiefs.

Screwed them out of an obvious fumble and set the ball 2 yards short in hilarious fashion. Kelce getting smashed in the head wasn't a result of dirty play.

Exactly! And it also works the other way with the NON-CALLS. Example - 3rd and 9 in the 3rd qtr for the Titans. Hali get absolutely put in a CHOAK HOLD - and Mariota scrambles to THAT SIDE for the 1st down. Ref RIGHT THERE - NO CALL. The Tackle even looked around for a flag because he KNEW IT WAS HOLDING. It's an absolutely fool proof system because you can throw a flag that can't be challenged or simply refuse to call something, if the game needs a little push in a certain direction. :shake:

They do have a young QB...who was being heavily hyped before this year. Maybe this is the year they let 2 AFC teams that haven't been to the playoffs in a decade have a couple wins before getting eaten by the usuals.

They screwed themselves this week. We probably would have kept the score respectable, but NE is going to win by at least 4 tds next week.

Dude that was head to head, according to their current rules, it's a penalty.

Kelce recovered his own fumble. He was down with control of the ball and the guy took it from him.

That spot 2 yards short was terribad.

Really? How did it result in points?

Yeah, because Kelce ducked his own head to fight for more yards. If he launched to hit him while he was upright I would agree.

I was thinking that same thing. The refs in the 1st half were like lulz Titans suck let’s throw them a bone because this is gonna get ugly real fast. Now without them knowing the Chiefs ability to lose games in dramatic bed shitting fashion by the end of the game they were like lulz Chiefs we done ****ed you guys hard.

Exactly... Kelce reached for it while on the ground, tucked it back to his body, and then the Titans, having seen the ball lying on the ground, took it from him after he tucked it back to his body.

Doesn't matter according to their rules if you hit a dude in the head with your helmet it is a penalty.

He also launched himself at Wilsons head on the last offensive play, dude was head hunting.

Moral of the story is the Chiefs don’t need any help losing in self inflicted dramatic fashion.

Doesn’t matter because it didn’t happen to one of the NFL’s golden boys. That happens to Antonion Brown and it’s a penalty.

No you wouldn't agree - you have a narrative. It's all here in this thread, and it is that the Titans got ****ed just as hard - and they did not.

Yep. Plus, the dude laying the wood had plenty of time to adjust.

Cyprien was accused of being a dirty player earlier this year by a former teammate in Mercedes Lewis...

The fact Kelce can’t get that call is pure trash. I hope any ref that has a personal vendetta against him chokes on their dinner.

If you guys have it all figured out, then why don't you just start betting your money on these sham conspiracy games? If it's that obvious, why aren't you using it to your advantage? It's telling how these threads only pop up after the games are played...

Just like anything else, they pick and choose. You smash Gronk like that and 5 flags fly.

You could if you know what their agenda is, problem is, you don't always know.

Like in that Atlanta game are they going to prop up the player in Ryan or the LA market?

WWE is fake but guess what even if you watch all of it you don't always know who's going to win do you?

Kelce will never get any calls, he's a malcontent, a "hot-head". His showing up the refs earlier in the year (or career) guarantees it.

I mean, sure, cry about the officiating all you want. Cry that there's some invisible force that wants to **** us over because Chiefs.

Why was the grounding call on Newton BS... do you think he was outside the pocket or are you saying there was clearly a receiver in the area?

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Then the refs aren’t doing their jobs properly. That fits the NFL is rigged theory because that is blatant bias.

He was outside the pocket, or at least close enough that if say Brady had tossed that it wouldn't get flagged. It was literally a game changing call in a pretty good game to that point.

Yet somehow because he threw his towel or because Peters threw a flag "they deserve it".

How anyone can say the refs are biased against the Chiefs after that Bills "roughing" call is beyond me. They just suck ****ing shit and they aren't held accountable for it.

My point is the NFL officials are biased in general the Chiefs happen to be a "have not" team so is Buffalo.

Titans aren’t going to get the benefit of early whistles against NE. And if they spear a Patriot player expect about a dozen flags to fly at once.

For those who missed the Rams/Watkins getting screwed over, here is a link

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/6/16...rams-wild-card

Personally, I'm fine with an NHL approach to the game - to let players get a little more physical at the end of games, but even with such a view Watkins got screwed.

I believe that refs "push" games a certain direction sometimes, but even if that is not the case - the officiating is absolutely terrible and its getting worse as bad calls, of the game altering kind, happen far too often, and there is no recourse. There needs to be a way to challenge them. :shrug:

Besides, if the refs want to push things in a certain direction, they can always not make a call and let things go. If they don't call a hold here or there, it can have the same results as a bad call.

Exactly. We're not alone... It's a star driven league. Maybe if Mahomes turns into an elite QB, that will change.

That is grounding, but I've seen it not called in many worse cases than that.

The game this past Sat proved the refs don't do their jobs properly. But "proper" is up for debate, as is seemingly every rule interpretation.

The Falcons DB's in that game were repeatedly early on balls, basically daring officials to flag them.

Easy Fix.

Make every call reviewable/reservable/challengable. I don't care how long games take, it will be RIGHT.

That's a good way to play in the playoffs IMO. Push the rules as far as you can.


Seattle made a nice run doing this.

If Uno e Fatto wasn't such a coward and would for just once call the refs out, the team might get the benefit of the doubt on a call some day.

If you draw a line back from where the RT is on the line, he makes it outside of that spot, it's not by much but he does.

They've repeatedly shown they don't even get them right with replay.

I want them to call grounding more often, so I am biased.

They allow QB's way too much leeway on grounding IMO.

They still have control.


In fact, replay gives them more options to nudge a game in the direction they desire.

That's fine but it's still an example of saying one thing and then calling it a different way.

Ahh, it's an obvious, yet still secret agenda. Makes sense...

What killed me was the end of the first half in the Falcons/Rams game. Reviewing a play that was not questionable while the Rams had the Falcons on the ropes. Not saying it changed the outcome of the game, but it was so tedious.

Add to that the ridiculous call when Mariotta fumbled the ball and both situations are a part of the story of why the NFL is losing interest.

The NFL, a contested catch requires passing the BAR examine and a calculus book.

Look what you're asking me to believe is that NFL officials are completely incompetent boobs who can be outperformed by kids. And you're also asking me to believe that even though they are that stupid their ****ups always seem to favor certain teams, how's that make sense?

It's always rigged when we lose. Duh.

It's pretty well rigged either way, if Patrick Mahomes turns into a face of the league guess who will get some calls in their favor?

The NFL was slobbering all over the Chiefs this year. GMF had a long piece about the Chiefs every damn day. They pumped up Mahomes.

The network is running national ads to publicize one of its charities using Kelce as the center piece player.

I don't like this argument.


It takes one official to nudge a game in a certain direction.


I hate the fact that this is even questionable because I love football damnit. The NFL is to blame whether they are nudging games or not. If they would clean up the horrific officiating and not let the worst ref umpire a playoff game we wouldn't be having this conversation.

That's nice but we're flyover country and until we have a star that matters we're gonna be nobodies like the Colts were till Manning got there.

This gives me hope. The Chiefs might benefit from a subtle call in a big game one of these days.

Occam's Razor, man.

They don't always **** up to favor certain teams. That's just the thing. You're seeing what you want to see.

Every game had bad game changing calls in this week, the Chiefs game was just the worst.

How would you feel to be a Carolina fan today? Driving to a possible playoff win and to have it taken away by a questionable penalty.

Low hit on Bortles went uncalled.

The league plays favorites. The NFL isn't out to "screw the Chiefs," it's just that we don't get treated like the favorites. We don't have a Brady or an Antonio Brown. We aren't the Steelers or Broncos.

Many fans believe if Mahomes becomes a good, young, marketable quarterback the problem will change. Alex Smith is none of those things. The feeling is the league wants the masses to watch playoffs between big names. The league wants to keep "big names" healthy.

The league hasn't "gone soft." They are just overprotective of a few players. Nobody in the NFL cares if Bortles or Tyrod get roughed up. But you better not breath on Rodgers and Brady

When is the last time the Patriots had a call go against them?

And that piece of shit runs away and retires the next day. You can’t make this shit up. What an absolute joke NFL officiating is.

Never forget he’s also the reason someone lost an eye. I wish he would have been choked out that day. It would have been well deserved.

The speed of the game is such that refs don't really have time to do much nefarious plotting during the course of a play. They're simply incompetent. It's just more noticeable in the age of dozens of HD camera angles and large screen TVs. It's noticeable in baseball too.

It's all rigged for Ben and Brady to meet again. We had to lose so Brady could play a cupcake and Mariota a young buck could win and the league looks good. Smith is boring and it hurts us with the refs for certain. Mahomes will change all of that for us.

I lean towards this thought,however,the Patriots have not been playing all that well this last month and maybe they didn't want to see a rematch of week 1 with Golden Boy holding his dick in his hand why KC celebrated on their field.

Lastly,and most likely the NFL wants a rematch of Pitt/NE after that abortion of a game a few weeks ago.

What's awesome though is that bad officiating or officials playing favorites has happened for so long it's just accepted.

"If you want that call earn it" whatever happened to you know calling the rules right?

Yeah, he ends a career and physically injures someone because of his incompetence yet keeps his job for decades while continuing to be incompetent.

With all of the good officials in the US, how hard would it be to replace this piece of shit? One phone call.


Why don't they do it? Maybe he knows something.

Possibly, also Nashville is a big up and coming market at the moment that could play in.

He retired yesterday

NFL officiating is like the mafia, you can't say a word about them, they are heavily protected, they don't speak about anything, once you're in you're there for life. Seems kinda odd..

"Team is soft and couldn't get over the call" "They had their chances to win in spite of the officials".

What the **** ever. They promote how the NFL is a game of inches, one play can make the difference, etc. yet this bullshit continues.

While influencing games they've taught fans that if you blame the refs you are a loser. Your team didn't deserve it etc etc. All plays right into it.

Disagree. Nashville is growing a little faster than KC but is it is by no means a big market. KC and Nashville are similar size.

Titans probably have fewer fans than the Chiefs. But Mariota>Smith

They are still having rapid growth, there's a lot of articles out there on it.

I am not buying the promotion of the Tits. They are as boring as the Chiefs, maybe more.


If I put on my really thick tinfoil hat (double lined) I can see the NFL forcing the Chiefs hand in making Alex exit and bring in the Mahomes era. We know how ****ing stupid this franchise is with QBs, and the NFL might have been frightened of the prospect that a possible young QB star was going to be stuck on the bench one more year.

I don't even believe that, though.

Might actually get a DPI or two...