This strategy seems to fit Brett Veach’s aggression
 

Interesting story from AP on potential for moving up with Philly at 32.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platf...mpression=true

Here’s is an important piece to the move:

Philly has zero 2nd or 3rd rd picks so this offer should appear very tempting for them.

The Chiefs would have a 1st (32), 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th and 7th. At this point I’d think Veach would use his 2nd rd pick from Peters and maybe a 4th from 2019 to move up from 86.
Dorsey has 3 2nd rd picks including the last 2nd rd pick at 64. He currently has zero 3rd rd picks. I think he’d bite at that immediately.

So that would leave us with the following:

1st (32)
2nd (64)
4th (122)
6th (192)
7th (233)
7th (243)

Thoughts?

Move up to 32 to take who though?

I think that would be a terrible idea and we have no 4th round pick in 2019.

Well, in my 4/1 mock I did this:

So yeah, I think the Eagles would be the target team for getting up in 1 and I think that the compensation levels are similar.

I'm not sure about trading up twice. In my scenario, you're keeping 78 and you're keeping that 2019 2nd to give you three picks in the top 64 while losing 3rd and 4th rounders (Ragland).

I'm not so sure its necessary, its a deep draft at almost all of our defensive positions of need

Interesting. Your compensation package sounds good to me too. Seems like it would depend on the demands from Howie Roseman.

Also depends on how our board looks. Im thinking we’ll trade up multiple times on draft day.

Just because there are a lot of players from a certain position group doesn’t mean they fit what you want to do and the opening you have on the roster.

Veach will identify the guys in this draft class that can provide an impact and try his best to go get them.

Just like I said last February...I’d love it if they draft Mahomes, but I’d love it even more if they move up to get him.

Same goes for a corner like Josh Jackson.

I think he slips to the mid 20s because his field work at the combine wasn’t ideal, this is San extremely deep CB class and he was only a 1 year starter...but in this system, he would be a perfect replacement for Marcus Peters.

At some point we need to keep what we've got, or possibly add even more, to replenish some of the depth chart.

Making a power move for Mahomes was a no brainer.
Rolling a 4th for a starter was fine.
Spending a 5th to add onto the OL chart has some logic to it.

But at some point we're going to run out of picks and we've got some major holes. If the CB pool is looking flush towards the end of Thursday, they need to stand the **** still.

I’m more leaning towards this side. I’m all for moving up as long as the cost fits. But staying at 54 and having 2 3s and 2 4s need to used on replenishing this roster.

I think it would be a huge mistake to give up picks in this draft.

Our defense needs an massive amount of depth. Our current draft picks allows the Chiefs to add quality depth on multipe levels of the defense. Its not a draft where we are going to land a future star, but it is an important draft that solidifies the roster. Next year with two 2nd rounders we can add some key play makers on defense.

Man, people need a little patience around here.

I think you’ll be disappointed then bc Veach has flat out said he’s going to be aggressive.

Nobody will give a shit if Veach gets us multiple players that contribute at a high level in 2018.

Things I would trade to move up in the 2018 draft:

The 2019 second rounder
Any pick after the third round in the 2018 draft

I don’t want them to go crazy here, but there are some elite guys in this draft that will fall because of not only positional depth, but also the quality this draft class has.

50 prospects graded as first rounders.

That’s the most since 2010 iirc

His aggressiveness may be somewhat limited depending on how the draft unfolds.
While I am a believer in quality over quantity we have several positions that need filled. I would rather use our later picks up to and including our last 4th to move up in the 2cd and or 3rd rounds.

Getting into the first round isn’t a big deal to me unless there’s a player who has fallen so much that Veach decided he’s gotta have him.

I’d rather have the first pick of the 2nd round instead. You have a whole day to think about who you want & plenty of teams will trade for that pick. The first pick of the 4th round is a nice pick to have too.

I'm just not sure about trading up. They need a lot of depth on D and I hate giving up picks, especially premium picks.

No joke, I wouldn't be surprised if Justin Houston(age, and from reports he had a problem with how Peters was handled) isn't traded for a late 1st round pick which would make sense why KC has interviewed Dorance Armstrong multiple times for a target #54 pick selection.

Link?

Nick Athan is that you? :rolleyes:

Get outta here with this shit. No way the Chiefs accrue $12.7 million in dead money just to get a late first round pick. And if Dorance Armstrong is drafted at #54, Veach needs to be shown the door.

They've been scouting the shit out of Armstrong, and if Houston isn't cool with the Peters trade which I thought we would've gained a 1st round pick out Marcus. With going with that below market deal, anything is possible if Justin doesn't have the desired "attitude" because of said transaction.

If Houston doesn't have quarrels with it, though by all reports he did like Peters then it's a non-issue.

Where are you getting this idea that Houston had a problem with us trading Peters?

Terez, was talking about it in one of his podcasts

Dorance isn't a second round talent in my opinion, would be a reach

The Browns have picks 33 and 35. The Colts have picks 36 and 37.
A 2nd rd pick is worth 270 points at the very least, which easily equals enough to trade for 35 or 37.

Dorsey and Ballard would absolutely trade down 20 spots for a 2nd rd pick next year, especially already having made an early 2nd rd pick.

The earlier you pick a player out of a larger position group should give you a BETTER player.

In other words:

The best rated player out of a pool of 30 should be better than the best rated player out of a pool of 10

Moving up makes no sense

It would be just as easy to see where either or both would trade those picks to move up and get a player that they covet and get the 5th year option.

Completely depends on how the draft unfolds.

Moving up makes a ton of sense. It just depends on the compensation

Especially if the person you're moving up for is at a position where you can really make good use of the 5th year option. It's an underrated benefit for 1st round players.