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Deberg_1990 12-05-2018 11:41 AM

Are you concerned with Butkers recent inability to convert extra points?
 
4 missed this year. What’s wrong?

Will this come back to haunt at some point??

Reerun_KC 12-05-2018 11:43 AM

Yes in the playoffs when our running game falls off the map. He will be the new CP folklore villain.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 12-05-2018 11:44 AM

He’s automatic when it comes to Field Goals. Extra Points I cringe

Fish 12-05-2018 11:44 AM

Cut his ass immediately.

Sassy Squatch 12-05-2018 11:45 AM

In 2017 he had 28 XP attempts.

In 2018 he has had 55 XP attempts so far.

Just kicking a lot more. Not really shocking he's missed a few.

wazu 12-05-2018 11:45 AM

We should just go for 2 every time. Wouldn’t advocate that for most teams but Chiefs would score more points if they did.

TribalElder 12-05-2018 11:45 AM

he lost the playoff game last year right?

I would be concerned

Santos used to make me nervous too

Best22 12-05-2018 11:46 AM

The raiders kick was blocked, not missed

Also, look around the league. Kicking is TERRIBLE. The Steelers normally reliable Boswell has had an awful year. Crosby missed 4 kicks. The Bears has a kicker miss 4 in a game as well. I have no idea what it is by something has happened and nobody can kick anymore. Even Justin TUCKER missed an XP

Butker is still a top kicker in 2018, relative to everyone else

chinaski 12-05-2018 11:46 AM

Can he play Safety?

chiefzilla1501 12-05-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13936879)
Yes in the playoffs when our running game falls off the map. He will be the new CP folklore villain.

It will end up being the second worst kick of the year for the Chiefs.

Too soon?

Nzoner 12-05-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13936893)
It will end up being the second worst kick of the year for the Chiefs.

Too soon?

LMAO

Sassy Squatch 12-05-2018 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13936893)
It will end up being the second worst kick of the year for the Chiefs.

Too soon?

Heh.

DJ's left nut 12-05-2018 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13936879)
Yes in the playoffs when our running game falls off the map. He will be the new CP folklore villain.

If you let a kicker beat you, he will every goddamn time (unless he's Vinatieri).

Yeah, if it comes down to the kicker...we're gonna lose. Not #becausechiefs but rather #becausekickers. That's not exclusive to us - ask the Vikings. Gary Anderson had the best season in NFL history for a kicker; didn't miss a single damn kick. Until the NFC championship game when their record breaking offense (and 15-1 season) came apart with his first miss of any kick of any kind all season.

Don't. Let. Your. Kicker. Matter.

If he does, you've already lost.

In58men 12-05-2018 11:51 AM

There’s cause for concern, yes.

htismaqe 12-05-2018 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13936883)
In 2017 he had 28 XP attempts.

In 2018 he has had 55 XP attempts so far.

ROFL

Those stats are just mind bottling!

Reerun_KC 12-05-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13936899)
If you let a kicker beat you, he will every goddamn time (unless he's Vinatieri).

Yeah, if it comes down to the kicker...we're gonna lose. Not #becausechiefs but rather #becausekickers. That's not exclusive to us - ask the Vikings. Gary Anderson had the best season in NFL history for a kicker; didn't miss a single damn kick. Until the NFC championship game when their record breaking offense (and 15-1 season) came apart with his first miss of any kick of any kind all season.

Don't. Let. Your. Kicker. Matter.

If he does, you've already lost.

Alex disagrees with you.

DJ's left nut 12-05-2018 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13936908)
Alex disagrees with you.

Alex won't be kicking shit anytime soon...

htismaqe 12-05-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13936913)
Alex won't be kicking shit anytime soon...

OUCH!

KC Hawks 12-05-2018 11:56 AM

Might need to sign Kareem Hunt to be the kicker.

TambaBerry 12-05-2018 11:58 AM

also there is a lot more to it then just the kicker missing it. Sure that happens but the hold could have been bad, the timing could have been off

notorious 12-05-2018 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13936884)
We should just go for 2 every time. Wouldn’t advocate that for most teams but Chiefs would score more points if they did.

In all seriousness, this is a good idea.

notorious 12-05-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 13936917)
Might need to sign Kareem Hunt to be the kicker.

That's not who he is.

ToxSocks 12-05-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13936889)
The raiders kick was blocked, not missed

Also, look around the league. Kicking is TERRIBLE. The Steelers normally reliable Boswell has had an awful year. Crosby missed 4 kicks. The Bears has a kicker miss 4 in a game as well. I have no idea what it is by something has happened and nobody can kick anymore. Even Justin TUCKER missed an XP

Butker is still a top kicker in 2018, relative to everyone else

This.

We should consider ourselves fortunate to have Butt Kicker. Look around the league....he's one of the best right now. Kickers in general are having a down year it seems.

carcosa 12-05-2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 13936917)
Might need to sign Kareem Hunt to be the kicker.

WOW!!!!! INCREDIBLE JOKE!!!!!!!!!!

ChiefBlueCFC 12-05-2018 12:01 PM

nope not worried at all. he's been automatic most of his career, so I'm not losing sleep over it. its fine, i swear. I'm not worried.

KC Hawks 12-05-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13936935)
WOW!!!!! INCREDIBLE JOKE!!!!!!!!!!

Thank YOu!!

CaliforniaChief 12-05-2018 12:03 PM

Which kickers would we rather have?

I'd take Justin Tucker for sure...other than that, they seem about the same to me.

kysirsoze 12-05-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13936932)
That's not who he is.

LMAO

ToxSocks 12-05-2018 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 13936941)
Which kickers would we rather have?

I'd take Justin Tucker for sure...other than that, they seem about the same to me.

I'm not even sure i'd rather have Justin Tucker. Justin Tucker doesn't come with a cool name like Butt Kicker.

Luke Atamadong 12-05-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13936884)
We should just go for 2 every time. Wouldn’t advocate that for most teams but Chiefs would score more points if they did.

That's probably true. It surely was with Kareem on the team.

Fish 12-05-2018 12:07 PM

If I'm counting correctly, there's been 54 missed XP kicks in the NFL this season. It's not just Buttkicker....

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...sition/defense

DJ's left nut 12-05-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13936884)
We should just go for 2 every time. Wouldn’t advocate that for most teams but Chiefs would score more points if they did.

TERRIBLE idea.

Do you have any idea how much practice time would need to be devoted to short yardage plays? Or worse, how many short yardage plays you'd have on tape? Hell, you'd need to have a slew of them just to get through the 60+ 2 point attempts we'd have in a given season.

It works will on a spreadsheet but in practice it's just not feasible. Unless you built a team around a road-grading line and you just intended to line up and push the defense backwards, it's just not something that would work over any appreciable timeline.

Reps are currency and every rep your putting towards building up those 2 pt plays is a rep you can't use to improve your ability between the 20s or even on basic red zone efficiency.

Nope nope nope, 1,000 times nope. Refusing to ever punt would make more sense than always going for 2 and by a fair amount.

ToxSocks 12-05-2018 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13936953)
If I'm counting correctly, there's been 54 missed XP kicks in the NFL this season. It's not just Buttkicker....

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...sition/defense

Yup. If you've watched football outside of the Chiefs it's clear that kickers around the league are struggling.

We have one of the more fortunate kicking situations in the league right now.

InChiefsHeaven 12-05-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13936873)
4 missed this year. What’s wrong?

Will this come back to haunt at some point??

When you kick as many extra points as he has, you are bound to miss some. Holy crap people, it's the law of averages. Add to that they kick further away now and I'm sure there are a lot more missed XP's.

Buttkicker ain't a problem.

Chiefnj2 12-05-2018 12:10 PM

More concerned about the players fielding punts inside the 5 and always trying to return the ball.

loochy 12-05-2018 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13936883)
In 2017 he had 28 XP attempts.<br />
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In 2018 he has had 55 XP attempts so far.<br />
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Just kicking a lot more. Not really shocking he's missed a few.

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This. He's kicking so many that his percentage is still 93% (25th among kickers with 15 or more XP attempts). That's low as far as leaguewide numbers go, but it doesn't alarm me because he's 19/20 in field goals.<br />
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Also, if you'll notice, misses are much much more frequent now that they've moved it back a few yards.<br />
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ToxSocks 12-05-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13936963)
More concerned about the players fielding punts inside the 5 and always trying to return the ball.

As long as it's 'reek im good with it.

TinyEvel 12-05-2018 12:11 PM

Yes because he is on FFL kicker and I am heading into the playoffs with Lesean MCCoy as my RB1. I need every point I can get. It's all about me.

WhiteWhale 12-05-2018 12:17 PM

No. It's a 35 yard FG. He's 51/55. 92%. I'm not sure how much of that block was on him either. Not bad at that range and it's just a lot of volume. I'm not sure why people would expect the new XP to be as efficient as XP's from the 10.

He's a 90% kicker. I'm fine with it. Sometimes I think his leg just gets tired from all the kickoffs and XP's. KC scores a lot of touchdowns.

Kiimo 12-05-2018 12:17 PM

1. Take one of the Chiefs best players
2. Find some small thing he's done wrong
3. Make a thread about it
4. Decide that this might be the reason we lose the Superbowl
5. Profit

Am I doing CP right? I wonder if some Pats fan made a thread "Is Tom Brady's Ability To Catch A Cause For Concern?"

If so they are the winners.

In summary, just enjoy the games and stop freaking out. We may win or we may not and predicting what will be the problem is useless now that we have Mahomes.

redfan 12-05-2018 12:19 PM

Why should we be? This is a touchdown league, baby. If it gets really bad, Chiefs should just go for 2 every time. A 50% conversion rate would be just fine.

Halfcan 12-05-2018 12:19 PM

Mahomes is wearing out Buttkickers leg on Extra points- Alex did it on Field Goals.

RINGLEADER 12-05-2018 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13936883)
In 2017 he had 28 XP attempts.

In 2018 he has had 55 XP attempts so far.

Just kicking a lot more. Not really shocking he's missed a few.


That's a crazy stat.

Personally, I think his problem is that he's bored...


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