The Letter of the Law and Goodell
 

Regardless of your personal feelings about Tyreek Hill, if Goodell is to proceed by the Letter of the Law then how does he go about dealing with Hill if again the DA still chooses not to press charges even after this audio release ? Poll forthcoming.

He gives him a god damn Super Bowl ring, because the Chiefs are winning it this year with or without him!!!

Sorry for the delay !!

The Chiefs winning the Super Bowl without Tyreek Hill playing a down for them this season would be my favorite thing that happened in sports ever

He will get a 2-game slap on the wrist as a way of saying "stop laying down with succubi who tarnish the shield, you were already on thin ice dummy."

Chiefs will go 2-0 and we will laugh when his first catch goes for an 80 yard TD.

Tyreek will find a nice Johnson county girl and settle down.

4 game suspension. they will say he violated the personal conduct policy due to the audio or something.

This most likely but it's bullshit. I guess players are expected to be pastors.

it is but they have to make it look like the nfl is 'doing something'.

just a way of calming down the sjws

The players union will fist the NFL.

I bet it is a 4-game suspension and the union appeals it down to 2.

4 game. And actually I kind of look forward to seeing what Mahomes and the crew do without him for a few games. It'll be the Watkins/Hardman show. When Reek gets back we'll be loaded.

As long as Mahomes is QB we'll be fine.

That's where I'm at. Fuhrer Roger will have to do something to appease the liberals. I think he'll say 4, the NFLPA will appeal, and he'll serve 2. Liberals will still liberal and, for as long as we're a threat to their 3 favorite teams, will cry like pussies.

Let them come.

I hope I get ratio'd again.

Get your ****ing politics out of my football.

When has Goodell ever gone strictly "by the book"? I can't remember a single time.

Anyway, and I hate to say this, I think there's a good chance that Goodell keeps Tyreek on the Commissioner's Exempt List as long as possible (I don't know the rules on that) and then suspends him for the remainder of the season to "make an example."

The main reason I believe that's likely is that Kraft and Goodell are basically besties, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Kraft (behind closed doors, of course) asks Goodell for just such a favor, so his Pats have a better chance of getting to yet another SB.

The absolutely immovable "strict" minimum for domestic incidents is 6 games, correct? They had a very flimsy case against Zeke and he got 6 games. If they suspend, I don't think it can be less.

Good point.:thumb:

This isn't a domestic incident, though.

He didn't do anything except act like a jerk in a recorded conversation where the other party was trying to entrap him.

The other party has also admitted guilt and has a huge smoking gun of a deleted tweet.

Tyreek isn't getting six games.

I'm thinking 8 games like Hunt but appealed to 6 like Zeke. He manages to get in both "ballparks" that way.

6 or 8 to start appealed down to 3 or 4 would be my tuess

I think it's 6 appealed down to 4

Four game Max, and we go on to crush the souls of all opponents, SJW's the world over, and bring that sweet Lombardi back to Kansas City after 50 years!

Bad comment by Tyreek on the audio recording for sure...buuut what’s the precedent for punishment for saying mean things to your significant other in a private conversation?

Not defending what he said, but that’s a pretty lame thing to get punished for. My parents have an okay marriage, and I’ve heard them say way worse to each other.

My thinking as well and was recorded unbeknownst of the accused.:shrug:

Wouldn't this be the perfect ending. But in reality I think he gets 4 games and he will be booed all around the league and the loudest at home all year long.

6 games.

No appeal.

Wow. I've never seen such a bunch of ****ing disgusting hypocrites in my life. The Patriots get hit with ridiculous sanctions for videotaping (an action which reportedly every club did) and deflated balls (which was a bullshit accusation since it was cold out that day, and another thing which reportedly every club did, including Aaron Rodgers and the Packers), and you all act like the Patriots are baby rapists and nun murderers. Yet YOUR team continues to sign human ****ing degenerates who do things like choke their pregnant baby mama, beat their toddlers, and tell their women, "You need to be terrified of me too, bitch," but it's all LET HIM PLAY WE NEEDZ A SOOPER BOWL WIN! He's a piece of shit, and if you support him or want this swept under the rug just because he runs fast with a ****ing football then you're an equal piece of shit.

You don't approve of what we learned from you?

You guys were winning games with a guy suspected of committing a double murder

In fact, Hernandez wasn’t even released until he was ARRESTED for Lloyd’s murder. Being a person of interest in a murder case wasn’t even enough for the Pats to cut him.

Meanwhile KC released an all-pro caliber rb without even an arrest or conviction.

Get bent

Punishment will be harsher than Hunt's but appealed back to be 6. The NFL does have the fact that the child had to be removed from the home. That's not being a model citizen by NFL standards.

I will also bring, the read between the lines, reasoning for my expectations: When a DA says that a crime was committed yet all but said, in capitol letters, that Hill and his GF did not cooperate with the boys best interest at heart. Therefore, DFS removed the child from the home for his own safety.

**** your 2-4 games pipe dreams: 6 games, final answer.

Look at this ignorant ****.

This fall we're going to come up to your precious foxboro and beat you clowns like a bunch of red-headed step children.

Maybe we'll break Tommy's arm.

Of course it's not like Boston isn't one of the most racist places on earth, so I'm sure Tyreek will enjoy the charming cacophony of boos cascading down while he scores two or three touchdowns.

JD didn’t realize his lord and savior head coach knew all about Hernandez being a complete piece of shit before he drafted him, even warned by one of his best ****ing friends and coach of Hernandez, Urban Meyer NOT TO DRAFT him.

Take your high horse and stick it up your ass you hypocrite **** face.

4 tops, and pooper blows a monkey at the zoo.

Drink. AIDS.

Dude you don't get to high horse anyone, you are funny though bringing up shit like taping things and deflategate but you don't mention Aaron Hernandez at all..yea ok.

Nothing is funnier than all of the Patriots ****tards that are so scared of the Chiefs they view Hill being banned as their ticket.

We will become the team that they hate above all others and they won't be able to help themselves because every time they see us, they will see their own team reflected back at them.

The only time that passionless group of drooling mongos get excited about anything, is when an opposing team shows the consistent ability to be a major and legitimate threat to them. We are going to be that threat. And shortly thereafter, their conquerors and finally lifetime overseers.

I'm guessing 8.

Not what I would do but think he will do...

I'd say with what we have today, he gets 4 and maybe gets it reduced to 2. I think if Kraft can walk away from his troubles scot-free and Hill got 8, New York will have a hard time justifying anything more. There's video of those 2 transgressions.

Eight, Easy 8 as they say at the crap table. Interesting the comment from the DA about "not cooperating in the child's best interest". Could be they are protecting each other, OR someone in the family. They can still both deny they had involvement and absent evidence to the contrary mitigate the circumstances. And oh by the way the recording of an individual varies by jurisdiction so it may not be admissible as evidence in a criminal proceeding.

6, reduced to 4 on appeal

Commissioner's Exempt List until the following instruction from the NFL bears fruit:

"Tyreek, we get it. You have certain rights in the legal system.

"Here's the thing, though: The NFL isn't the legal system. Until you cooperate with us fully, you get to sit and watch—and not get paid.

Now, we're all going to talk about exactly what went down and how we're going to verify your story. Sound good?"


EDIT: Does he get paid on the List? I don't know. Perhaps so. And if so, I imagine the Chiefs are going to want him to tell the story as well.

From what I understand, that recording was done in Dubai's airport. If true, then he is likely permitted to speak to a woman this way. She is the one that would be in violation of Dubai law.

If Tyreek is not prosecuted for Child abuse and the only evidence we have access to publicly now is a text stating she did it then how does the league punish him for that? JoCo can't prosecute for Criminal Threat since it occurred way outside of their reach.

The NFL can and likely will punish him for the Criminal Threat but as far as we know it's his only offense since being in the league. Unless something else comes out I don't see him getting more than 4 games for that if that.

Some Patriots players recently in trouble with the law list.

Kenyatta Jones OL, former New England Patriots offensive lineman was arrested in 2008 and charged with battery on a law enforcement officer, obstruction and trespassing. Jones was being escorted by security from a nightclub for attempting to urinate on the dance floor when he shoved an officer into a wall and was eventually tasered.

Aaron Hernandez TE, was convicted with first-degree murder.

Chad Johnson WR, was arrested on a simple domestic battery charge, after being accused of head-butting his newlywed wife during an argument in front of their home in Davie, Fla.

Aqib Talib CB, allegedly battered a taxi driver and he was arrested by Florida Highway Patrol and booked into the Pinellas County jail, charged with resisting arrest without violence and simple battery. In March 2011, police in Garland, Texas issued a felony warrant for Talib for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after he was accused of firing a gun at his sister's boyfriend.[82] He was later released on $25,000 bond. Talib was indicted on the charge in May 2011.

Montee Ball RB, Domestic violence

Brandon Spikes LB, Accused of leaving the scene of a crash in which a woman and boy in another car suffered minor injuries.

Willie Andrews S, Accused of pointing gun at girlfriend's head, assault with a deadly weapon.

Bob Kraft owner, charged with 2 counts of soliciting another to commit prostitution.

Just a partial list, but you get the idea. The Pats organization is no better morally or ethically than the Chiefs. In fact, considering the multiple cheating scandals, the Aaron Hernandez catastrophe, and Mr. Kraft's indecency, it's pretty clear that the Chiefs are the cleaner organization overall.

WTF does being a "SJW" or "liberal" have to do with not wanting people to beat small children?

It has nothing to do with it. Stop trying to bait people.

What people are upset about is the immense blow back when nobody has facts.

It's pure emotion-driven madness, and I'm not talking about the Tyreek Hill issue.

Every NFL team has their own list just like the one you posted here, I assure you.;)

Oh, I know they do; that wasn't the point of my post, I thought I made that clear. My only point was actually a counter-point to the Pats fan's post, that seemed to say that the Chiefs as an organization are somehow less ethical than the Pats, which is a pure canard.

Me? I'm not trying to bait anybody. Did you see the poll options or the comments on the first page of the thread?

Oh no doubt!! I had this same conversation with the same person reminding him of Hernandez a couple of years back and like he did here he had no rebuttal and ran.:rolleyes:

You have no sense of humor do you?:rolleyes:

I don't really see how calling people who think child abuse is wrong a "liberal" or "SJW" is humorous.

No suspension but will be on the exempt list for this season.

That’s kind of bs on the NFL’s part. They will have had plenty of time to make a decision on punishment.

Who said anything about 'child abuse' being humorous per se??:rolleyes:

Go study the term "virtue signaling" then study Brooke Pryor from the Star and how she rolled this story out with NO EVIDENCE to this point btw and then study how the majority of the press handle controversial stories with NO EVIDENCE-see Russia investigation on Trump. Go study how Goodell has handled conduct policies and punishment since Ray Rice to Zeke to Kareem Hunt and now TH and you can see how he has evolved over time to realize he needs a good product on the field(pressure from owners).

I agree. If the commissioner does this he is saying "Guilty until proven innocent" which is hypocritical especially with no charges being filed.

I'm okay with 4 games due to the bad audio comment but that's all they have and that still does not prove he hurt his kid.

So, wanting to have fewer criminals/woman-beaters/child-abusers in the league is a bad thing, and it's all the media's fault that they are exposing said abusers?

You didn't study did you, my SJW Alinsky troll:rolleyes:

Why would he get suspended?

Because he might have done something terrible. That’s how it works now.

I would hope that we never draft another high-risk prospect again, I believe it would be the best course of action for this club not just for the immediate time being but for the long run as well.
For every Tyreek Hill there is a Megatron. Choose the Megatron and avoid the headache, this isn't hard.

That dude Mama Hip Rockets is a ****ing reerun.

Reading between the lines, a boy had a criminal act inflicted upon his person. A crime was committed and the parents did not aid in the investigation.

That in it's own is reason for the NFL to take action, the question is; does Clark have any pull or is he just going to play the part of patsy, again. I stated before that the NFL would flex its muscle and the union would get it knocked back, but damage will be done.

Crystal, the toxic time bomb, could and will blow things up in the event of a divorce or the failure of their common bond, of if she just fails to take her meds...

This is far from being over.

She already gave it her best shot with that tape.

They're not married.

It's over, they're over, she won't try shit again or she'll get an epic legal smackdown.

Once the twins drop...

Child support in Kansas in not anything like on the MO side of the line.

Money is money is money.

Why don't you tell us from his $49K a month salary, after agent fees, how much he pays to the courts?

If after the twins drop will the state take them too? Will the twins ever enter the State of Kansas? If they were mine the answer would be......

It's all just money....

I'm going to ask you something that I'm sure many many many people have asked you many many times in this life:

What is the f****** point you are trying to make?

Problem......Johnson top 5 pick...Hill 5th round pick...

Also the team literally just traded for Frank Clark, they have zero issues with these kinds of players.

I should have realized you are incapable of thought, yet you said it's all about money. Speaking of money


There is a court order, Mandatory, based on income, that the state is collecting from Tyreek based on $49K a month income.

Will the state take the babies as retaliation for not cooperating with the police/ DA's office? I think they have what would be considered a declaratory judgement to support doing so.

They get to tap him twice more if they do.......... I think they have the power and so I asked:

Would you expect the twins to ever enter Kansas?

anything can happen, but Frank Clark doesn't strike me as someone who will return to his old ways.

Let's just say that the Chiefs "research" needs to get a hell of a lot deeper.

And for every potential problem prospect, there is going to be a prospect of equal talent that doesn't have those kind of issues every draft, every time.
Save yourself the headache.

Cooper, what goes on with his family after these legal issues are settled and or charges are filed, I don't care.

if he's on the field every game day scoring TD's, then he can pay out his entire salary to the state of Kansas for all I give a f***.

the state may have ordered him to pay 20% of 50K $10K a month every month for someone else to keep his kid safe from his mother and father and you think the NFL s going to lightly?

Talk about sucking $20-50K or $120K a year in punishment without being found guilty. if his salary doubles and he has twins in the state of KS may pullup to $25K a month from his salary. $300,000 a year in child support to the state.

How the government works quietly in the children's interest......


Put your but plug back in, you seem to be leaking.

Kansas is much cheaper I think

I've heard that too but what my JOCO dad's say is that they pay a lot more than what the charts said they would/ and your ex wifey can get maintenance for 5+ years



Dottesville may be totally the opposite, and follow the chart below...

I have never paid child support but all the numbers paid are higher than what I see KS (JO CO) numbers call for.

It's not working with TH's income.

I have never paid child support but all the numbers paid are higher than what I see KS (JO CO) numbers call for.

Oh by the way, I just figured out that Cooper is Tigger in case you didn't know.

He won’t miss a game

Damn straight.

You couldn't figure anything out without both your index fingers in your ass. Then it might be "something smells"

Thanks Tigg!

I went with four games, and I hope it's the four preseason games.