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aloyouis 10-22-2019 06:32 AM

Sanu to Pats...
 
For a 2nd. Over paid so something must be up IMO. Gordon injury worse than originally thought or perhaps a relapse?

BB getting a toy for TFB. He must think they need it for that game on 12/8!

Edit: Can this get moved to the Trade deadline thread?

Pablo 10-22-2019 06:37 AM

TFB?

Tom Fingers Boys?

carcosa 10-22-2019 06:39 AM

I'm pissed!!!!!!!

Amnorix 10-22-2019 06:44 AM

He could definitely help. Edelman still isnt' 100%, Gordon was out last night and nobody really knows how hurt he is, and N'Keal Harry isn't back from IR.

If Sanu works out, maybe Harry stays on IR this year and the Pats bring back Wynn (LT) and Develin so their run game can try to get back on track.

Mecca 10-22-2019 06:49 AM

Real question if you are going to give up a 2 why didn't you just get AJ Green? I doubt Cincy turns that down.

Flying High D 10-22-2019 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 14544530)
TFB?

Tom Fingers Boys?

Tommy Frenchy’s Boys

Strongside 10-22-2019 06:53 AM

Never fails.

Meanwhile, Veach will say, “we tried.”

Amnorix 10-22-2019 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14544540)
Real question if you are going to give up a 2 why didn't you just get AJ Green? I doubt Cincy turns that down.


Probably cap space if nothing else. Patriots are tight to the cap. Not sure how they are fitting Sanu yet.

Red Dawg 10-22-2019 07:03 AM

More proof owners don't give a shit who wins the SB. Any owner that hkeo Kraft is a loser with no pride.

bowener 10-22-2019 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 14544543)
Never fails.

Meanwhile, Veach will say, “we tried.”

Who do you want Veach to trade for? I sure as **** didn't want Ramsey at the price it cost. Cards have already said they aren't trading Peterson. Do you know of a linebacker or guard out there that is up for trade? Did you want him to trade for Sanu for some reason? At some point you have to admit your cynicism is just emotional baggage that you should let go of, man.

stevieray 10-22-2019 07:07 AM

Why do teams do this?

aloyouis 10-22-2019 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14544545)
Probably cap space if nothing else. Patriots are tight to the cap. Not sure how they are fitting Sanu yet.

I bet it’s this. Read somewhere that Atlanta might have converted most of his salary for this year to bonus before the trade. That would cost the Pats more and help make sense of the 2nd.

RobertWeathers 10-22-2019 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14544540)
Real question if you are going to give up a 2 why didn't you just get AJ Green? I doubt Cincy turns that down.

Sanu is a better fit for our offense, healthy, fits under the cap and is under contract next year.

Amnorix 10-22-2019 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14544550)
More proof owners don't give a shit who wins the SB. Any owner that hkeo Kraft is a loser with no pride.


If the Falcons aren't going to win it, why do they care who wins it? Do you think they should take less from someone else? The Pats aren't even in the NFC.

Is your goal to help yourself, or hurt some other team in the other conference?

DRM08 10-22-2019 07:18 AM

Doesn’t look like they need him.

KCJake 10-22-2019 07:19 AM

The team that nobody can stop right now, just got better....:shake:

dlphg9 10-22-2019 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14544560)
If the Falcons aren't going to win it, why do they care who wins it? Do you think they should take less from someone else? The Pats aren't even in the NFC.

Is your goal to help yourself, or hurt some other team in the other conference?

Yeah no shit. The Pats gave up a 2nd. Im sure no one else was even close, so why wouldn't the shitty Falcons take it?

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-22-2019 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 14544543)
Never fails.

Meanwhile, Veach will say, “we tried.”

Veach would have probably given up a first and third. Sometimes you don't want these guys making moves.

RunKC 10-22-2019 07:28 AM

Giving a 2 for a 30 year old receiver?

That’s not smart, but then again the Pats strength is finding players in FA and from other teams active rosters anyway

Coochie liquor 10-22-2019 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 14544530)
TFB?

Tom Fingers Boys?

Tom French’s Boys

Strongside 10-22-2019 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 14544553)
Who do you want Veach to trade for? I sure as **** didn't want Ramsey at the price it cost. Cards have already said they aren't trading Peterson. Do you know of a linebacker or guard out there that is up for trade? Did you want him to trade for Sanu for some reason? At some point you have to admit your cynicism is just emotional baggage that you should let go of, man.

What the **** are you talking about? Sarcasm doesn’t still fly on Chiefsplanet? I’m one of the more positive posters on this board...cynicism. FOH.

bowener 10-22-2019 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 14544582)
What the **** are you talking about? Sarcasm doesn’t still fly on Chiefsplanet? I’m one of the more positive posters on this board...cynicism. FOH.

Hey, man, we live in trying times. Unless there is a /s at the end I assume everybody is a crazy asshole until proven otherwise. My apologies.

staylor26 10-22-2019 07:45 AM

That’s a pretty steep price for an average 30 year old WR that’s a decent #2 at best.

Hoover 10-22-2019 07:46 AM

I think its a solid trade for the Pats. They need help on offense. Its a steep price if you ask me, but if you are the 6 time world champs what do you care about a 2nd round pick.

Not convinced we will see the Chiefs do anything, which is odd considering the massive amount of cap space we created. And yes I realize we can roll it over, but we made a guy like Hitchens more expensive moving forward.

RobertWeathers 10-22-2019 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14544578)
Giving a 2 for a 30 year old receiver?

That’s not smart, but then again the Pats strength is finding players in FA and from other teams active rosters anyway

We still have 12 picks next year and 4 in the top 3 rounds.

Plenty of draft capital left to do more trades and add youth next year

staylor26 10-22-2019 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14544594)
We still have 12 picks next year and 4 in the top 3 rounds.

Plenty of draft capital left to do more trades and add youth next year

Don’t really care what your explanation is. Sanu is worth a 4th best.

Gravedigger 10-22-2019 07:50 AM

You mean Sanooze to the Pats.

RealSNR 10-22-2019 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 14544599)
You mean Sanooze to the Pats.

Sanuva ring

Yehoodi 10-22-2019 07:56 AM

I like the trade. May seem kind of steep, but Sanu is signed through next year. So we get Sanu for a year and half for 2nd rounder. And that needs to be compared with a 2nd rounder pick that if makes the team, plays 4 years.

He is a lower cap hit than other WR on the trading blocks.

Shiver Me Timbers 10-22-2019 07:59 AM

He won't last the season
https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/pl...amed-sanu/5100

RobertWeathers 10-22-2019 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14544598)
Don’t really care what your explanation is. Sanu is worth a 4th best.

...and I don't care what your valuation is of Sanu as it relates to draft capital

staylor26 10-22-2019 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers (Post 14544609)
...and I don't care what your valuation is of Sanu as it relates to picks.

But you felt the need to defend it....

RobertWeathers 10-22-2019 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14544610)
But you felt the need to defend it....

Nothing to defend

Some fans don't understand how the Patriots view picks.

I stated the logic why they parted with a draft pick.

I have no issue with parting with a high pick for a proven WR.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-22-2019 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 14544568)
The team that nobody can stop right now, just got better....:shake:

Patriots are good, but come on... The best QB they faced was Ben Roethlisburger with an elbow tendon hanging by a thread. Look at the other QB's they played, not good. The combined records of the teams they've played are a combined 11-27, With Buffalo being 5-1 playing basically the same shitty teams. Buffalo should have won the one and only meeting. Again, NE is good, but the teams, QBs, and schedule they've played is historically bad as well.

carcosa 10-22-2019 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14544550)
More proof owners don't give a shit who wins the SB. Any owner that hkeo Kraft is a loser with no pride.

What does hkeo mean

TLO 10-22-2019 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 14544619)
What does hkeo mean

I think that's that new oriental way of moving your couch around.

Hoopsdoc 10-22-2019 08:29 AM

The Patriots really should be trying to find a successor to Brady. He’s more than likely doping but even that won’t keep him going forever.

stevieray 10-22-2019 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloyouis (Post 14544555)
I bet it’s this. Read somewhere that Atlanta might have converted most of his salary for this year to bonus before the trade. That would cost the Pats more and help make sense of the 2nd.

so, right back first thing this morning, huh?

Chiefs, who haven't won a SB in 50 years, is where you come to gloat?


:shake:

RealSNR 10-22-2019 08:34 AM

Tom Brady is a pedophile.

Hammock Parties 10-22-2019 08:35 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting Text on Mohamed Sanu Trade... “Dimitroff needed a win. Bill gave him one. Ownership in Atlanta is pissed. This is a favor / sweetheart deal. It’ll remind Arthur Blank his GM is pretty Savvy. Media will call it a win. Sanu was realistically worth a 3rd at most.”</p>&mdash; Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/1186650660810477570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TomBarndtsTwin 10-22-2019 08:36 AM

A second for Sanu is a HUGE overpay, but whatever, I'm glad they wasted the pick.

And the Pats have played an absolute pile of garbage so far this season (except Buffalo, who they almost lost to), so excuse me if I'm not exactly impressed with their 'dominant' defense so far . . . . .

O.city 10-22-2019 08:51 AM

Maybe they overpaid, i'm pretty sure Bill doesn't care and knows more than us anyway.

Buehler445 10-22-2019 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 14544543)
Never fails.

Meanwhile, Veach will say, “we tried.”

You really want to drop a second for a 30 year old WR that has been racking up miles on his legs since Chad Johnson was in the league who doesn’t fit Reid’s system very well?

Mama Hip Rockets 10-22-2019 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 14544543)
Never fails.

Meanwhile, Veach will say, “we tried.”

Why would Veach trade a 2nd rounder for a wide receiver? That would be asinine.

rabblerouser 10-22-2019 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 14544530)
TFB?

Tom Fingers Boys?

We know he french kissss them...

Yehoodi 10-22-2019 09:07 AM

Given that the Pats are 7-0, they will likely make the playoffs and if they have the good fortune to make it to the AGCCG, the pick will be 60 or so in the draft, so almost in the 3rd round. And be 52 or lower if they lose in the first round.

We have a boat load of picks with a few in the 3rd round, we had draft capital to spare.

Sanu fills a need and we get a proven starter for 1.5 years and give up the chance/potential to have a 4 year starter from the pick. Again potential not proven starter.

Also, he is cap friendly and other WR in the trade market were not. Supply and demand

I like the pick and especially so given the Pats present situation.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-22-2019 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yehoodi (Post 14544690)
Given that the Pats are 7-0, they will likely make the playoffs and if they have the good fortune to make it to the AGCCG, the pick will be 60 or so in the draft, so almost in the 3rd round. And be 52 or lower if they lose in the first round.

We have a boat load of picks with a few in the 3rd round, we had draft capital to spare.

Sanu fills a need and we get a proven starter for 1.5 years and give up the chance/potential to have a 4 year starter from the pick. Again potential not proven starter.

Also, he is cap friendly and other WR in the trade market were not. Supply and demand

I like the pick and especially so given the Pats present situation.

This move is a no brainer, specifically if Gordon is out long term and the rookie can't go. They are in the throws of the last year or two of a dynsaty, they should hold on with all their might.

Amnorix 10-22-2019 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14544640)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting Text on Mohamed Sanu Trade... “Dimitroff needed a win. Bill gave him one. Ownership in Atlanta is pissed. This is a favor / sweetheart deal. It’ll remind Arthur Blank his GM is pretty Savvy. Media will call it a win. Sanu was realistically worth a 3rd at most.”</p>&mdash; Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/1186650660810477570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Why the actual **** would BB let someone "beat" him in a trade? Have you not been paying attention for the last TWENTY YEARS?!

JFC.

JD10367 10-22-2019 09:47 AM

You guys fail to realize, unlike your suck-ass team that historically sucks ass, a 2 for the Pats is usually like pick #64. A low 2 for Sanu is not a bad deal.

And they’ll have two comps in round 3 so they’ll still have 1, 3, 3, 3.

ChiefoftheKeyboard 10-22-2019 09:51 AM

Can’t believe Atlanta got the same amount for Sanu that we got for Dee Ford. Wow

BlackOp 10-22-2019 09:54 AM

The good news is the Pats wouldn't have made this move if they intended to bring AB back....

I was almost positive once shit died down, he was coming back for the post-season.

Rain Man 10-22-2019 10:04 AM

Poor guy. As a receiver, it would stink going from a decent quarterback like Ryan to a washed up quarterback with a noodle arm.

RealSNR 10-22-2019 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14544744)
You guys fail to realize, unlike your suck-ass team that historically sucks ass, a 2 for the Pats is usually like pick #64. A low 2 for Sanu is not a bad deal.

And they’ll have two comps in round 3 so they’ll still have 1, 3, 3, 3.

It's a bad deal. You're a huge dumbass homer if you think it's not a bad trade.

But it works for the Pats only because they have picks coming out of their vaginas like Brady on his period. They were desperate for a WR and got what they needed.

But Sanu is NOT worth a pick in the low 60s

scho63 10-22-2019 10:29 AM

He was a teammate at Rutgers with Devin and Jason McCourty.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-22-2019 10:31 AM

It is so strange to me that there are so many Patriots fans on this board.

I don’t have an account anywhere else and even if I did, it wouldn’t be a team that’s completely out of the division.

****ing weird TBH.

InChiefsHeaven 10-22-2019 10:34 AM

just an aside that website is kinda cool...here's what it says about our boy Sammy:

https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/pl...y-watkins/6937

Wa...wa...waaaaaaa.....

Iowanian 10-22-2019 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 14544568)
The team that nobody can stop right now, just got better....:shake:


I'd like to keep this in perspective.


The Pats(can't say the letter RRRRRRRR) haven't beaten ANYONE of note yet. Their schedule to date has been a whose who of who?

**** the Pats. They're an overrated tube sock in a truck stop parking lot.

BlackOp 10-22-2019 10:49 AM

Signing Brown prevented them from being able to afford Sanders....poetic justice.

OTC has them at $2,431,166 in cap...Sanu is $3.8 mil.

They are maxed out and will have to restructure someone. Risky business with 9 games left...and no money for injury additions.

How hurt is Gordon?...strange move considering the financial handcuffing.

How good will he be without Julio Jones/AJ Green on the other side?

DJJasonp 10-22-2019 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14544567)
Doesn’t look like they need him.

How would anyone know?

THe pats havent finished their division 2 portion of their schedule yet......

Buehler445 10-22-2019 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14544821)
It is so strange to me that there are so many Patriots fans on this board.

I don’t have an account anywhere else and even if I did, it wouldn’t be a team that’s completely out of the division.

****ing weird TBH.

They also **** their brothers.

Also weird.

T-post Tom 10-22-2019 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14544880)
They also **** their brothers.

Also weird.

And french kiss their kids. (Hero worship?)

T-post Tom 10-22-2019 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14544730)
Why the actual **** would BB let someone "beat" him in a trade? Have you not been paying attention for the last TWENTY YEARS?!

JFC.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c5dd...itemid=9536199

Yehoodi 10-22-2019 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 14544728)
This move is a no brainer, specifically if Gordon is out long term and the rookie can't go. They are in the throws of the last year or two of a dynsaty, they should hold on with all their might.

Yes, we are running out of choices. I kind of view it as we are "drafting" Sanu for 1.5 years with the 2nd round pick.

Not sure how long Brady will play and who knows who his placement will be, Stidham or another, and/or of BB will still be around.

So agree fill the need and down the road worry about how fine tune the trade is or isn't

Yehoodi 10-22-2019 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14544777)
Poor guy. As a receiver, it would stink going from a decent quarterback like Ryan to a washed up quarterback with a noodle arm.

Oh no he didn't, oh yes he did . . . he went there . . . :).

Seriously, be fun to see how the Pats offense does with Sanu and facing the meat of their schedule.

Yehoodi 10-22-2019 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 14544760)
The good news is the Pats wouldn't have made this move if they intended to bring AB back....

I was almost positive once shit died down, he was coming back for the post-season.

My guess was that AB was not coming back to the Pats. Too much baggage, the media made it a circus, and some of the things he said when he was released.

Hydrae 10-22-2019 11:35 AM

Some of you are thinking too hard.

TFB - Tom ****ing Brady

Rain Man 10-22-2019 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 14544947)
Some of you are thinking too hard.

TFB - Tom ****ing Brady

I was way off. I was thinking it was Tampering Filming B******s.

YontsRBake 10-22-2019 02:31 PM

Pats went from a team that trades a 4th for Randy Moss to a team that trades a 2nd for a 30 year old WR who's never had over 850 yards.

Mahomes and Watson are living rent free in Bills head.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-22-2019 02:46 PM

Turd

Imon Yourside 10-22-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14544990)
I was way off. I was thinking it was Tampering Filming B******s.

Not as far off as you might think!

AFCCGFinalist 10-22-2019 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 14545318)
Pats went from a team that trades a 4th for Randy Moss to a team that trades a 2nd for a 30 year old WR who's never had over 850 yards.

Mahomes and Watson are living rent free in Bills head.

Totally agree. The QBs who Bill is a collective 5-0 against live rent free in his head.

lcarus 10-22-2019 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 14544568)
The team that dog shit teams can't stop right now, just got better....:shake:

Wake me up when those douchebags play a real NFL team.

notorious 10-22-2019 03:26 PM

Eventually a 3rd rounder

aloyouis 10-22-2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14544636)
so, right back first thing this morning, huh?

Chiefs, who haven't won a SB in 50 years, is where you come to gloat?


:shake:

Hey buddy, how are you today?

Hoover 10-22-2019 03:36 PM

Broncos just sent E. Sanders to the 49ers for a couple of mid round picks

aloyouis 10-22-2019 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14545527)
Broncos just sent E. Sanders to the 49ers for a couple of mid round picks

a 3rd and a 4th (similar draft value to the 2nd)
Sanders is 2 years older (32 vs. 30)
$6 million cap hit is $2.5 million more than Sanu

Given just these 3 facts, I understand better why BB did what he did with Sanu.

Setsuna 10-22-2019 03:41 PM

Imagine criticizing a team's moves who have won multiple SBs and feeling confident in those criticisms

Imon Yourside 10-22-2019 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 14545535)
Imagine criticizing a team's moves who have won multiple SBs and feeling confident in those criticisms

* Unless it's on another teams forum to which you have zero association with.

crispystl 10-22-2019 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14544821)
It is so strange to me that there are so many Patriots fans on this board.

I don’t have an account anywhere else and even if I did, it wouldn’t be a team that’s completely out of the division.

****ing weird TBH.

Me too. I find it annoying as **** and I don’t understand why it isn’t moderated.

Chiefs=Champions 10-22-2019 04:08 PM

We've got Pats fans and jags fans debating the merits of trading a 2nd to Atlanta for Sanu... On a chiefs board.


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