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Tribal Warfare 12-09-2020 09:06 PM

AFC Playoff Picture: What does Steelers loss mean for Chiefs?
 
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TribalElder 12-09-2020 09:10 PM

hopefully those ****s lose 2 or 3 more

BigRedChief 12-09-2020 09:11 PM

Instead of making people click on the tweet link you posted, then click on the actual tweet to then, finally get to see the story how about you just post the important part. Which is shit. Just clickbait. Copy the rules from the NFL.com. Just keep winning. Really?
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The Chiefs and Steelers are now tied for the best record in the AFC with 11 wins and a single loss. Unfortunately, the Steelers still hold the No. 1 seed in the AFC due to the NFL’s tiebreaker rules. They have a better win-loss record within the AFC conference.

For reference here is how the NFL’s tiebreaker procedures are ordered.

Head-to-head record, if applicable.
Best conference win-loss record.
Best common games win-loss record.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined points scored and points allowed ranking within the conference.
Best combined points scored and points allowed ranking within the NFL.
Best net points all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
A coin flip determines the tiebreaker.
If both teams win out the season, the Steelers would still hold the No. 1 seed. If they both trip up again on the way to the finish line it opens up the possibility of one of the above tiebreakers coming into play. Neither team has a cakewalk of a schedule to close out the season either.

You can find the Chiefs’ remaining schedule here.

You can find the Steelers’ remaining schedule here.

The best-case scenario for the Chiefs is to continue taking things one game at a time, keep winning and hope for another Steelers loss.

Azide22 12-09-2020 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15385766)
Instead of making people click on the tweet link you posted, then click on the actual tweet to then, finally get to see the story how about you just post the important part.
——————————————————————

The Chiefs and Steelers are now tied for the best record in the AFC with 11 wins and a single loss. Unfortunately, the Steelers still hold the No. 1 seed in the AFC due to the NFL’s tiebreaker rules. They have a better win-loss record within the AFC conference.

For reference here is how the NFL’s tiebreaker procedures are ordered.

Head-to-head record, if applicable.
Best conference win-loss record.
Best common games win-loss record.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined points scored and points allowed ranking within the conference.
Best combined points scored and points allowed ranking within the NFL.
Best net points all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
A coin flip determines the tiebreaker.
If both teams win out the season, the Steelers would still hold the No. 1 seed. If they both trip up again on the way to the finish line it opens up the possibility of one of the above tiebreakers coming into play. Neither team has a cakewalk of a schedule to close out the season either.

You can find the Chiefs’ remaining schedule here.

You can find the Steelers’ remaining schedule here.

The best-case scenario for the Chiefs is to continue taking things one game at a time, keep winning and hope for another Steelers loss.

Especially want to root for Steelers to lose to Buffalo.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 12-09-2020 09:20 PM

There will be more poops in that crock.

Tribal Warfare 12-09-2020 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15385766)
Instead of making people click on the tweet link you posted, then click on the actual tweet to then, finally get to see the story how about you just post the important part. Which is shit. Just clickbait. Copy the rules from the NFL.com. Just keep winning. Really?
——————————————————————

The Chiefs and Steelers are now tied for the best record in the AFC with 11 wins and a single loss. Unfortunately, the Steelers still hold the No. 1 seed in the AFC due to the NFL’s tiebreaker rules. They have a better win-loss record within the AFC conference.

For reference here is how the NFL’s tiebreaker procedures are ordered.

Head-to-head record, if applicable.
Best conference win-loss record.
Best common games win-loss record.
Strength of victory.
Strength of schedule.
Best combined points scored and points allowed ranking within the conference.
Best combined points scored and points allowed ranking within the NFL.
Best net points all games.
Best net touchdowns in all games.
A coin flip determines the tiebreaker.
If both teams win out the season, the Steelers would still hold the No. 1 seed. If they both trip up again on the way to the finish line it opens up the possibility of one of the above tiebreakers coming into play. Neither team has a cakewalk of a schedule to close out the season either.

You can find the Chiefs’ remaining schedule here.

You can find the Steelers’ remaining schedule here.

The best-case scenario for the Chiefs is to continue taking things one game at a time, keep winning and hope for another Steelers loss.



I'm doing it on my phone so yeah it's as good as it gets, and if you don't like it do it yourself

Halfcan 12-09-2020 09:59 PM

Chiefs just need to win out from here on.

wazu 12-09-2020 10:18 PM

Main thing I hope it accomplished is that if the Steelers lose to an AFC team, we can still get the 1 seed even if we lose to the Saints. (Not sure if that’s true or not.)

sd4chiefs 12-09-2020 10:41 PM

The local CBS affiliate is locked in a dispute with AT&T over re-transmission fees and is blacked out. If they don't come to an agreement by Sunday then I will not get the game. I have Sunday ticket but DirecTV blacks it out because it is on the local CBS station. :banghead:

I hope I can get it on my I-pad.

BigRedChief 12-09-2020 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15385806)
I'm doing it on my phone so yeah it's as good as it gets, and if you don't like it do it yourself

I did it on my phone.

htismaqe 12-10-2020 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15385814)
Chiefs just need to win out from here on.

That's the only thing they can really control anway.

But technically, they still need the Steelers to lose again.

I have a feeling it will probably be at Buffalo, which would be ideal because then we have the common opponents tiebreaker.

scho63 12-10-2020 09:59 AM

I think the Steelers lose 2 more.

TEX 12-10-2020 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15386238)
I think the Steelers lose 2 more.

I think at least 1 more - just like KC...
Hope, if we lose, its to the NFC team and hope Pitt loses to Buff or Cle. Would prefer Buff, for the common opponent tie breaker, if they are to lose only one.

KChiefs1 12-10-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 15386287)
I think at least 1 more - just like KC...
Hope, if we lose, its to the NFC team and hope Pitt loses to Buff or Cle. Would prefer Buff if they are to lose only one.

Chiefs aren't losing again dude! :thumb:

ChiefBlueCFC 12-10-2020 10:33 AM

I think there is a good chance Pitt loses 2, with the possibility of 3, but I doubt they lose 3.

Bills, Colts and Browns should all be good games but I think the Browns beating them will be a stretch. Would be awesome if the division came down to the Browns and Steelers in week 17.

KC_Lee 12-10-2020 11:33 AM

Remaining schedules for both teams. Make your predictions
KC: 11 - 1
KC vs. MIA
KC vs. NO
ATL vs. KC
LAC vs. KC

PIT: 11 - 1
PIT vs. BUF
PIT vs. CIN
IND vs. PIT
PIT vs. CLE


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KC: 11 - 1
KC vs. MIA - KC W
KC vs. NO - KC L
ATL vs. KC - KC W
LAC vs. KC - KC W

KC: 14 - 2

PIT: 11 - 1
PIT vs. BUF - PIT L
PIT vs. CIN - PIT W
IND vs. PIT - PIT W
PIT vs. CLE - PIT L

PIT: 13 - 2

TEX 12-10-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15386292)
Chiefs aren't losing again dude! :thumb:

:clap:

htismaqe 12-10-2020 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15386292)
Chiefs aren't losing again dude! :thumb:

I love your attitude!

DaFace 12-10-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 15386391)
Remaining schedules for both teams. Make your predictions
KC: 11 - 1
KC vs. MIA
KC vs. NO
ATL vs. KC
LAC vs. KC

PIT: 11 - 1
PIT vs. BUF
PIT vs. CIN
IND vs. PIT
PIT vs. CLE


-----------------------------------------------
KC: 11 - 1
KC vs. MIA - KC W
KC vs. NO - KC L
ATL vs. KC - KC W
LAC vs. KC - KC W

KC: 14 - 2

PIT: 11 - 1
PIT vs. BUF - PIT L
PIT vs. CIN - PIT W
IND vs. PIT - PIT W
PIT vs. CLE - PIT L

PIT: 13 - 2

Ah, yes. The rare 13-2 record. :p

htismaqe 12-10-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 15386391)
Remaining schedules for both teams. Make your predictions
KC: 11 - 1
KC vs. MIA
KC vs. NO
ATL vs. KC
LAC vs. KC

PIT: 11 - 1
PIT vs. BUF
PIT vs. CIN
IND vs. PIT
PIT vs. CLE

KC loses to NO and wins every other game. 14-2.

PIT loses to BUF and wins every other game. 14-2.

Chiefs win the tiebreaker.

KC_Lee 12-10-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15386469)
Ah, yes. The rare 13-2 record. :p

Boy I really fat fingered that one.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

KChiefs1 12-10-2020 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15386473)
KC loses to NO and wins every other game. 14-2.

Don't be a pussy! :D

htismaqe 12-10-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15386709)
Don't be a pussy! :D

Okay, fine.

Chiefs finish 15-1.

Steelers finish 11-5.

WOOT!

splatbass 12-10-2020 02:13 PM

Why does everyone think we'll lose to NO?

htismaqe 12-10-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 15386741)
Why does everyone think we'll lose to NO?

I think they lose another game and that one seems most likely to me.

I don't see them losing to any of the other teams but I also have a feeling they drop one more.

Who knows though. They might show up and blow out NO like they did the Ravens and Bucs.

DaFace 12-10-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15386751)
I think they lose another game and that one seems most likely to me.

I don't see them losing to any of the other teams but I also have a feeling they drop one more.

Who knows though. They might show up and blow out NO like they did the Ravens and Bucs.

Yeah, it's not that I THINK we'll lose (and I'd bet we're actually favored in the game). It's that, if we DO lose a game, that's the most likely one.

wazu 12-10-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 15386741)
Why does everyone think we'll lose to NO?

I don't think they will, but if I'm trying to decide why the Pittsburgh loss to Washington could matter, the Saints game stands out.

Brody Wa 12-10-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15386473)
KC loses to NO and wins every other game. 14-2.

PIT loses to BUF and wins every other game. 14-2.

Chiefs win the tiebreaker.

Steelers wins the tiebreaker because we had a division loss to the Raiders. Either way, I don’t know how much home field advantage matters without NFL fans at the game.

KC_Lee 12-10-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 15386741)
Why does everyone think we'll lose to NO?

On the road, though that's not a large issue (crowd noise) this year.
Kamara vs. Our D scares me a bit
Brees back in the line up

As DaFace said, if we're going to lose one more game this year NO stands out as the game we'll lose.

Megatron96 12-10-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 15386741)
Why does everyone think we'll lose to NO?

I don't know if everyone thinks KC will lose to NOR, but I think most people understand at one level or another that NOR represents the toughest match-up for the Chiefs of the remaining schedule. And they do have a very good defense that can get pressure without resorting to a lot of blitz packages, and they have some fast LBs, and they have a great RB to work with.

So they are strong in areas where the Chiefs have issues.

I think the Chiefs will still win that game, but I also think it is likely that Mahomes will have to do something special to earn that win. This will not be a game where the Chiefs will be able to get a 6-point lead and then fool around for 3 quarters, as they've been able to do for awhile now. They're going to have to play a pretty complete game, on both sides of the ball to win this one.

Every other game they have left just aren't going to have the same urgency, because none of those other teams aren't in the same zipcode as the Chiefs.

htismaqe 12-10-2020 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brody Wa (Post 15386760)
Steelers wins the tiebreaker because we had a division loss to the Raiders. Either way, I don’t know how much home field advantage matters without NFL fans at the game.

Not true.

Division record only matters to break division tiebreakers, not conference tiebreakers.

First tiebreaker is conference schedule. Both teams would have one AFC loss, which means it goes to 2nd tiebreaker.

Second tiebreaker is common opponents, minimum of 4. We have 4 common opponents and we beat all 4. If Pittsburgh loses to Buffalo, we win the 2nd tiebreaker.

As for the bye, it's not about HFA. That extra game introduces additional risk in terms of things going wrong, fatigue, injuries. As DaFace said the other day, strictly from a statistical standpoint, having the bye increases our chances of getting the Super Bowl by a whopping 43%. It's significant.

wazu 12-10-2020 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 15386768)
On the road, though that's not a large issue (crowd noise) this year.
Kamara vs. Our D scares me a bit
Brees back in the line up

As DaFace said, if we're going to lose one more game this year NO stands out as the game we'll lose.

I'm having a hard time believing Brees will be back. Sounded like he broke about every rib in his body along with a punctured lung. I guess maybe that first round bye they are chasing could push him out there, but they need him in the playoffs for any hope of Super Bowl run.

DJJasonp 12-10-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15386769)
I don't know if everyone thinks KC will lose to NOR, but I think most people understand at one level or another that NOR represents the toughest match-up for the Chiefs of the remaining schedule. And they do have a very good defense that can get pressure without resorting to a lot of blitz packages, and they have some fast LBs, and they have a great RB to work with.

So they are strong in areas where the Chiefs have issues.

I think the Chiefs will still win that game, but I also think it is likely that Mahomes will have to do something special to earn that win. This will not be a game where the Chiefs will be able to get a 6-point lead and then fool around for 3 quarters, as they've been able to do for awhile now. They're going to have to play a pretty complete game, on both sides of the ball to win this one.

Every other game they have left just aren't going to have the same urgency, because none of those other teams aren't in the same zipcode as the Chiefs.

I realize the chargers head coach is mentally-challenged, but that game worries me, given the trouble they've given us the past few times we've played each other.

Mav 12-10-2020 02:36 PM

Steelers should lose to the Bills and Browns.


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wazu 12-10-2020 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brody Wa (Post 15386760)
Steelers wins the tiebreaker because we had a division loss to the Raiders. Either way, I don’t know how much home field advantage matters without NFL fans at the game.

ESPN has a good tool for determining tie-breakers. If Steelers lose to Bills, and we lose to Saints, we get the bye.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

htismaqe 12-10-2020 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15386780)
I'm having a hard time believing Brees will be back. Sounded like he broke about every rib in his body along with a punctured lung. I guess maybe that first round bye they are chasing could push him out there, but they need him in the playoffs for any hope of Super Bowl run.

The way the Saints talk, he might not play again the regular season.

I'm pretty confident we'll be facing Hill.

notorious 12-10-2020 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 15386741)
Why does everyone think we'll lose to NO?

KC has risen to the challenge time and time again yet people still don’t believe.

It’s insanity.

KChiefs1 12-10-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15386726)
Okay, fine.

Chiefs finish 15-1.

Steelers finish 11-5.

WOOT!

Now that's the attitude I want to see! :thumb:

crayzkirk 12-10-2020 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 15386786)
Steelers should lose to the Bills and Browns.

And Colts...

lcarus 12-10-2020 02:43 PM

If the Steelers lose to Buffalo and the Chiefs win out, the loss to the Redskins means nothing. Other than showing what we already know. That the Steelers are frauds.

htismaqe 12-10-2020 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15386799)
And Colts...

I wouldn't count on that. Rivers is a choke artist.

And I'll believe Cleveland can beat the Steelers when they actually do it.

The Steelers barely beat Dallas and the NYG but blew the doors off of Cleveland.

Mav 12-10-2020 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15386806)
I wouldn't count on that. Rivers is a choke artist.

And I'll believe Cleveland can beat the Steelers when they actually do it.

The Steelers barely beat Dallas and the NYG but blew the doors off of Cleveland.


Week 4 of the season. A lot has changed for both teams. But then again, if Cleveland doesn’t beat Baltimore my tune changes.


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Megatron96 12-10-2020 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 15386784)
I realize the chargers head coach is mentally-challenged, but that game worries me, given the trouble they've given us the past few times we've played each other.

Well sure. LAC has played the Chiefs tough the last few times out. But their QB play hasn't been part of the problem for the Chiefs. Combine the bit about coaching, and LAC is really outclassed, a far as the Chiefs are concerned.

But let's not misunderstand; I'm not saying that when KC plays LAC in week 17 that it'll be a cakewalk. Just saying that they really aren't serious contenders yet, from a skill and coaching standpoint. They don't scare anyone, in other words, but that doesn't mean they can't win. But if the Chiefs come out and play to their average or slightly better, it's unlikely LAC will be able to keep up.

Against NOR, KC's average keeps NOR in the game. The Chiefs will have to play better than their average to win.

That's basically what I meant.

htismaqe 12-10-2020 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 15386818)
Week 4 of the season. A lot has changed for both teams. But then again, if Cleveland doesn’t beat Baltimore my tune changes.

It's still Cleveland vs. the Steelers.

Cleveland has a lot to prove.

Brody Wa 12-11-2020 06:26 AM

Thank you sir. I’m at fault for not double checking Max Kellerman and Steven A. Smith’s comments on First Take yesterday about Pittsburgh winning the tiebreaker.

tredadda 12-11-2020 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 15386768)
On the road, though that's not a large issue (crowd noise) this year.
Kamara vs. Our D scares me a bit
Brees back in the line up

As DaFace said, if we're going to lose one more game this year NO stands out as the game we'll lose.

I disagree. Look at KCs games this year. They have had three true statement games this year (Baltimore, Buffalo, and TB). They dominated each and every one of those games. Then look at the games they should have won easily, outside of the NYJ (Carolina, LAC, NE, Denver game 2). Those games were far closer than they should have been. I believe if KC slips up it will be against ATL (who is better than their record) or the LAC who would love nothing more than to beat us and keep us from a #1 seed. I think they go into NO and walk away with another statement win.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 12-11-2020 09:28 PM

Woah. It is future is on the Planet's front page. Big Ben expierences Dolphin rape in the playoffs

GingaChief 12-13-2020 04:18 PM

So if bills win steelers and if we lost to saints are we 1st seed?

htismaqe 12-13-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaChief (Post 15394390)
So if bills win steelers and if we lost to saints are we 1st seed?

Yes.

First tiebreaker is conference. If we both lose to one NFC and one AFC team, it's a tie.

Second tiebreaker is common opponents. We beat the Bills so if the Steelers lose to the Bills, we have the tiebreaker.

That assume we end up tied, of course.

Bwana 12-13-2020 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GingaChief (Post 15394390)
So if bills win steelers and if we lost to saints are we 1st seed?


Copy that.

RINGLEADER 12-13-2020 04:57 PM

If Pittsburgh loses today we only need to win two of the final three games to be guaranteed the #1 seed provided one of those two wins is week 17 vs the Chargers.

Mr. Wizard 12-13-2020 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 15394517)
If Pittsburgh loses today we only need to win two of the final three games to be guaranteed the #1 seed provided one of those two wins is week 17 vs the Chargers.

What if Pitt wins tonight and we win out.

htismaqe 12-13-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15394690)
What if Pitt wins tonight and we win out.

If we both finish with one loss, they get the #1 seed because we have a conference loss.

JakeF 12-13-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard (Post 15394690)
What if Pitt wins tonight and we win out.

Pittsburgh has the tie-breaker, so they need to lose another game for us to have a chance at the #1 seat.


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