Derrick Gore needs to be the 1st and 2nd down back.
 

D. Williams can be the 3rd down guy and CEH can get 1 or 2 carries a game.

Gore is the only back on the team with any shot at taking one to the house and MEH is pretty terrible at every facet of the game. Williams isnt good either, but seems to be better at receiving than all but 2 players on this team, so you can't sit him at the moment.

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Agreed. Gore has burst can we say that about CEH and D Will?

Intercom: Deberg, clean up in Aisle 12, clean up in Aisle 12

Absolutely not

I dont think we have enough of a sample size to know that yet....

True, but he definitely deserves more touches to find out.

Honestly not even sure what to say about our backs at this point, its such a random hodgepodge of strengths and weaknesses... they just don't complement each other very well IMO

But hey we're winning, so it must be working good enough... but yeah, I'm reeeally wanting to see some genuine change next season

These kinds of threads are always fun.

Look, Derrick Gore might have it in him, but NEEDS to be?

We just don't know that. For all we know, he might look like utter dookie ass if given that expanded role within the offense. It's certainly happened to other players on this team.

I'm going to let the fat man coach and run the team, because he does actually know what is best.

To earn playing time on a championship level team at a pivotal position like RB, you need to be able to do everything asked of you well to have trust from the coaches. Gore is earning more opportunities, but he needs to show the coaches in meetings and practice that he can handle pass protection and how to be effective as a pass catcher to leapfrog Clyde and Williams…both of who have earned the trust of the coaches in those regards.

One missed block on an edge defender can derail a whole season and that’s far more important than being able to be arguably more effective in just one role in the offense.

I think the kid has a bright future here, but there’s lots of work to do so the offense isn’t predictably working around his weaknesses while he’s on the field.

I definitely think Gore deserves more carries because CEH is just so under whelming. I have posted this stat before but his career long carry is 31 yds. Washed up Adrian Peterson had a longer run last year. Gore just beat that with backup OL.

We definitely need to upgrade that position in the off season

CEH is not the best RB on this team. I don't think he's even the 2nd best.

It's the Faid. We put up almost 900 yds of offense in two games.

That's not good enough?


It's a team sport.

What have we done offensively in games not the Raiders lately? Not as good.

Thankfully our defense has dominated.

It's going to be okay.

LMAO

Don’t let anyone ever tell you Chief Fans aren’t stupid. FFS

He wouldn’t have played so much if there wasn’t a game Thursday nite…

My dick needs to be in Jennifer Garner's butt

Mahomes isn't throwing as many bombs either.

They have a stable of backs that can all catch the ball.

And they all scored today.

:shrug:

Remember how Darwin Thompson looked when the raiders gave up? Same shit today.

Wins are all that matter. How we achieve them, and with whom, makes no difference.

Thats really the bottom line

Everyone is allowed to quibble about this and that, but ultimately they're all playing a part in this 6 game win streak... with all of them scoring today, as stevie pointed out

Reid is making it work by mixing them up nicely, lets ride them to another SB and sort it all out in the offseason

They are all having various levels of success. Andy always finds a way. Trust the master.

That’ll be the push that we need!

Also, there is such a thing as being motivated by others believing in you.

Clyde has looked great in several games this year. In this game, he was statistically beat out by two backups. But guess what… that shit happens all the time.

Players should always be playing for their jobs, but if they feel like the coaching staff is just going to make arbitrary changes based tiny out of context sample sizes, that doesn’t produce trust with coaches and it’s bad for team chemistry.

Andy Reid understands this. Just calm your tits about Gore. And for ****’s sake… Clyde isn’t some Mike Cloud bum. He’s a fine RB.

The Chiefs need to stop trying to force the running game.

Two straight minimal runs that basically killed their first drive of the game.

This post is dumb.

Sooo, you want them to run it ONLY when it will be successful? ****ing brilliant!

Um… yes.

The Chiefs should always be a pass first/pass often team… the “establish the running game” to supposedly counter the two deep safety defenses is bullshit.

Honestly would like to see Gore used more, out of everyone in the RB room I feel like he is the only one that can hit the right hole that will have a chance at breaking it.

Just my opinion. It helped it was garbage time but he had burst

Was it his 4.63 40 time that led to your "opinion"?

Imagine using 40 times to make a argument lolz.....

****ing cringe

Ok. But with most smart teams playing us 2 high the RB's should be able to feast against all the light boxes but they don't.

The whole position group is just meh.

So, you aren't actually talking about "breaking it?" You're not talking about getting 40-50 yards on a carry?

Well one running back did rip of a 50+ Yard TD today...... you wouldn’t know that tho if you looked at his 40 time

Lmao wait you thinking breaking it means speed? Breaking it means getting loose.... as it breaking open a game with a big play.

I would love for them to never run on 2nd and long every again.

I’m ok with the occasional draw, but only if are back in our territory

Guess I should take that back a bit.... RPO type of plays can be effective in that situation. Or draws.

Just not obvious rushes up the gut, which seems to be a go-to for some stupid reason.

Give yourself more options to at least get to 3rd and short instead of so many of the 3rd & 8+.

lol We know CEH has never broken one

Funny how the CEH threads are off the front page. I suppose that means that all the know-it-alls that know nothing about injuries affecting performance realize they know a lot less about NFL football than they thought they did.

Even if we all disagree on who the starter should be, I think one thing we can agree on is we do not have a stud RB like in years past.

We have 3 good HB's even if none of them are great...

at least today's game ended any notion that we need to RuN tHe BaLl more

the Chiefs running game was terrible for most of the day

they have mostly worked out the kinks in the passing game and high volume there is still the way forward, as it always was

A lot of our problem was the O line coming together. It takes time and it's a lot easier to run the ball and block forward than it is to pass block. I would have been fine running the ball more to start the season and throwing more as the team finds their comfort zone...

Replace good with average then yeah I agree :)

We have a collection of average at best RBs. Just use each one to their strength and dont have any one of them trying to do too much.

I would be hesitant to take away anything we did offensively as some kind of turning point. We looked back the last time we played the Raiders then reverted back.

With that said CEH is supposed to be a brilliant pass catcher who can run all the routes but we throw to him very little. I don't know yet about this week but last week they had pretty much the same targets (CEH and Williams.)

I don't really care that Clyde has 4.5 ypc. If a RB can't average that behind this O line, which kills in run blocking, and the D is begging us to run by only having 4 players not in pass coverage, then that player shouldn't be in the league.

Yeah he scored 2 TDs today. That gives him 7 rushing TDs in 21 games. That's not good.

Gore is the only home run threat at HB. I have no problem with giving him the ball more in hopes the run forces teams to respect it...

So same as the last 5 years

I'm guessing he really isn't as good at pass catching as advertised. 3 receptions for 5 yards today. That's the opposite of good. That's shit.

Coaches for some reason think Williams is a better pass catcher than CEH.

For a bigger dude, he's surprisingly really good at being a pass catching back but I don't know if I believe he's better than CEH cause they've never even really tried to get CEH heavily involved in the passing game. But for some reason Williams is always the 3rd down back and will almost always get rotated in on pass plays designed for the RB.

Yep, give him 8-10 carries and he's probably gonna break a big run or 2. That'll probably get teams to stop dropping everyone back into coverage.

They know CEH isn't going to get too far and they know we can't run it 40 times, so they'll let him run 10 times for 45 yards.

I think the coaches know a bit more about who the best pass catching back is!!!!11!1!!

I just said it before someone else.

I was waiting on this dumbass thread.

CEH is too short to catch high passes more often than not he doesn't have the reach to catch it or he tips it.

Regardless of who the best RB, it'd be nice to have someone who can take it to the house, but we just need someone who is consistent and can rip off 5 yard chunks against these soft defenses and force teams to respect the run game.

Maybe that's Gore, but he was a boom/bust player today. Had one amazing run and then 8 other carries for 15 yards.

He doesn't score on either of CEH's TD's and CEH scores on the run the big run Gore had.

He is alright but the love for the guy is so overblown its ridiculous. There is a reason dude made it through waivers in a league with not that many great RB's.

Its alright to cheer for the dude and go cool, but he isn't better than CEH no matter how many idiots claim he is.

He wasn't better in college, he wasn't better in the draft and he isn't better now. If he were cut today he likely makes it through waivers again.

CEH doesn't make it past the first team.

Gore was getting like 1 ypc before that. But I don't think CEH gets 10 yards on that 50 yard run, too slow

Gore would've broken the ankle tackle and scored a TDB that CEH got stumped by

Pat is so good that KC's favorite player is now the back up HB instead of the back up QB...

Right because Gore's 1 YPC was just insane prior to the one run.

LOL, the little kid "SO!" response

You can try to dispute it all you want and call people kids etc...its just a fact.

Gore had a 51 yard TD run and 8 other carries for 16 yards. Its just the truth.

That's the definition of revisionist history.

LOL that's the definition of facts dummy. Cold hard facts.

Enjoy your evening.

Name calling, thanks for the tapout

Why would I tap out when you cant dispute anything I have said?

Again I hope you have a great night and enjoy KC curb stomping the Raiders.

We can agree to disagree here, that the beauty of it.

BTW before getting butthurt over name calling go back and reread your first response to me. I dont give a shit but apparently you do.

And those two runs were not even against 2 deep safeties. Honestly, I was wondering why they didn't change out of those plays

I mean CEH has had what 30 games now to have a run like that and hasn't? So, I don't buy that.

After today Gore has a career average of 4YPC, CEH has a career average of 4.5 with 10x the carries.


I mean one of these things is not like the other minus 1 freaking run.

So with 10x the carries, he still hasn't managed a run like that?

Let me ask you if Mahomes was averaging less yard per throw on average but Henne had this one great throw for a 90 yard TD in mop up time would you feel the same?

With 10X the runs he still has a way better average per run. I mean you can be stupid if you want to continue to be stupid.

Any of the 3 RB's would have scored on those 2 CEH runs and CEH may have gotten 5-10 yds max on that Gore TD run. He is to slow. His career longest run is 31 yds. I am not even sure he would have scored on that DWilliams catch and score, I don't believe he has never done that either from that distance.

Edit: CEH's longest reception is 29 yds so it is possible

Not saying Gore is great but I think he deserves more carries

He's literally faster than Gore.

One would think that's pretty clear, but somehow it's not.

There's really no reason to continue arguing with people who know more than the coaches, data, etc.

Gore is definitely the most explosive RB we have. I’m not sure we have a true number 1 that we can lean on, but Williams is really good in the passing game, Gore gives us an explosive threat and Clyde seems like a really nice guy.