At the doctor's office
 

First of all, I hate this shit. All my life.

But I really don't like it today.

Been feeling pretty run down, tired, thinking it's lifestyle and I just need to rest more.

Well...I get blood drawn and they're talking about liver enzymes and shit, so I stopped drinking. And changed my eating. This is like a week ago.

So, I've notived...I'm inflamed on my left side. It hurts. Like...inside.

Reflexology chick could feel it in my foot.

Doctor calls and wants me to come in, do my bloodwork again...

I realize that sore throat I've had suddenly isn't a sore throat at all...it's swollen lymph nodes.

This sucks.

This sucks bad.

At least if it's my liver they can just cut a piece out.

I hope you get to feeling better, but stay away from reflexologists.

Keep your head up. Hoping for the best for you.

Hang in there Rabble.
I think your stressed out man. Book a vacation to a Mexican beach my friend.

Best wishes to you Rabble

Any infection can raise liver enzymes.

Did they say anything about your white blood cell count?

Don't borrow worry.



You're going to be fine.

When you going back to the doc?
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You're gonna be fine brother. You probably just have an infection.

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Go back to the doctor and do what they tell you
Good luck
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Hoping its something minor!

Try drinking some antifreeze

Hope you feel better soon bud...

Amputate the neck.

Worked for me.

You got this Rabble ;)

Prayers sent for you Rabble.

If it makes you feel any better, your liver isn't on your left side, so it probably isn't that....

I don't know how old you are, but you're prolly at an age where you can unexpectedly pull a muscle in your abdomen and it really hurts like something weird is going on.

Had that happen to me over Christmas....Doc ran some labs said everything looked fine and that I should just eat a BRAT diet for a few days just in case and see what happens. Resolved itself a couple of days later.

Its most likely AIDS.

Good news is they can cure that shit now.

Good luck though, seriously.

Ask them how much.

Mine were “high” one time. I don’t remember the numbers but I was barely outside of the range and he wasn’t going to worry until they were like 6x that much.

Make sure you know what panels they ran, what the results were and what they mean.

If it is an infection your white count should have been high. If it’s an infection and it’s in half your body DONT **** AROUND. That shit will get you.

Who knows what it could be. I’d start with fluids. Dehydration can do weird shit.

Get well my man

Pulling for ya... Try not to assume anything and wait for all of the test results.

See if they’ll throw a prostate exam in for the hell of it.

You got this bro

Protip: Stay off WebMD.com and let an actual MD diagnose you.

Nah, the doctors are all "in" on it. I'd check with your preferred tiktok user/podcaster to see what they think.

Inflamation on the left side could be diverticulitis . I had that about two months ago for the first time in my life. Researched and found a youtube video from a lady that suffers from it and she found that taking probiotics and Apple cider vinegar solved her problem. I did that and BINGO. Symptoms gone.

Now quit drinking and get your life in order.

Reflexology is woo woo bullshit. See an actual doctor.

Depending on where on the left side (high or low) it could also be the stomach, like gastritis or an ulcer.

Hang in there, stay optimistic. If you a serious about the lifestyle change (not drinking and eating better) it takes more than a month for those changes to take effect but well, well worth it.

How much have you been drinking? I've gotten pancreatitis from alcohol abuse in the past, and it's no fun at all.

Definitely could be this. Pancreatitis is not fun.

If you drink alcohol, sodas with fructose and/or take anti inflammatories, stop for a month and then recheck enzymes. The liver has a phenomenal ability of repairing itself rather quickly barring cirrhosis. . Good luck

Rabble you sure it isn’t an STD?

How many fingers did the doctor use?

KY or spit?

Did you get a boner?

Or at least consult with CP first .

Elevated liver enzymes is pretty common it depends which ones are elevated and by how much and what could be the potential causes other flags would have popped up in your lab work as well to help point them where to look.

Worn down , sore throat , elevated liver enzymes and swollen left side (spleen) and enlarged nodes could be mono , it also could be few other things and it is understandable to have concerns and quickly jump to a worse case scenario but try and talk it out with your doctor

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Seriously though. Can we get an update?

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I gave more blood yesterday, have another appt. It could be a blocked bile duct, diverticulitis, a random infection, etc

Truth.

In like a week. I already had the appt scheduled, and they had me come in to give more blood so we can have those labs back by then...at first I thought it was odd, and I kind of put it together what they're looking at and worried about, and you know no one is going to say the C word until there's an actual diagnosis, but I know what they're looking at. But I won't worry until I need to...

I want a hot nurse to check it with her tongue!

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Raiderfan.

Too much. Ended a "wet relationship" in October. Quit drinking entirely the day we lost to the Bengals. I was so ****ing angry...

I've changed my eating habits, to the point where I'll tell you what I DO eat :

grass-fed beef
eggs
shrimp
root vegetables (sweet potatoes/potatoes, carrots, beets, etc)
fresh fruit
tomatoes
lamb
jasmine rice (white and brown)
unpasteurized milk
greek yogurt

Went to nourish cafe for lunch - that have this thing that is 2 eggs on top of chili made with grass-fed beef and sweet potatoes, it was amazing.

unless you have been hitting tylonal and chugging nyquil and vodka i doubt it is your liver this stage in the game. You probably just party too hard and your organs are swole up.

Nah, I'm just making the changes now to make hopefully reduce those symptoms, like I said, even a blocked bile duct will cause liver enzymes to go wonky, white blood cells to go up, and make the lymph nodes swell, etc.

So, it could be any number of things...but giving up alcohol and getting proper rest at night has improved everything. I've pretty much given up all drugs, too. In bed by 10, up at 6, and already feeling worlds better.

Most likely. Stress is a factor.

Suppressed anger. I'm pretty pissed. And I need to get over it, because, hey...being pissed isn't going to change anything.

We haven't got that far yet. May have to have ol' Funbags prepare me for the exam...

No, but honestly, i've never had one. Everytime I thought I had one, turned out I had an ingrown hair or a fart caught sideways or something, so what the **** do I know about STDs?

I'm about a week into the "cleanse".

I mean, even best-case scenario, I can't envision myself ever getting to where I was drinking how I had been over the past year or so - I've historically only been a "have a couple during dinner, and only a few more through the night" kind of drinker. i have had many a night where I "tied one on" real proper, but honestly not any more than anyone else who likes to have a drink now and again but isn't an alcoholic.

The change was needed, sorely. So, if this is what it takes to get me to live the way I'm supposed to anyway...

Yeah, so my lymphocyte count is waaaaaay high...and good cholesterol is too low.

And my liver enzymes are like twice what they're supposed to be.

Hell, almost everyone's good cholesterol is too low

Which liver enzymes are still high? ALT or AST?

All three of these could be unrelated , I assume he is sending you for more tests i?

Yeah, I have to go back March 16th for like, I guess ultrasounds or sonogram and x-rays or some shit.

Something is going on, and they aren't digging it. I can post my numbers if anyone can read them...

Both.

Dude. This is CP. We're experts on everything.

Seriously tho, hope you get better.

Still drinking?
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I'd be surprised if your venereal disease count wasn't in the double digits.

continued prayers bud.

Yeesh. If it was just ALT, I wouldn't be so concerned, as ALT is typically driven by a short term event. But the AST signifies long term damage, and the ALT is telling you that something is still currently happening. I hope they get you figured out.

Once you get this resolved. Try a water only fast in the future.

Hope they figure out what's making you ill.

Would you be willing to post the values? I would understand if you don’t.

Some times we see transient increases in liver enzymes. Can happen with viral infections which could explain your lymphocytes.

I suspect they ordered a liver ultrasound and are checking you for viral hepatitis?

Two times the upper limit of normal is not that high. Non alcoholic fatty liver disease is a very common cause of this.

What about Tylenol usage?

Also, I have never seen AST vs ALT to differentiate a long term vs short term issue. The ratios are sometimes used to determine or indicate a cause. The amount of elevation can also give you some clues. Anything less than 10x the upper limit of normal is considered mild to moderate. AST is also found outside the liver, whereas ALT is primarily in the liver.

Sure. Linked at the bottom.

Correct. On the 16th.

Let's be real, I was a skinny kid in the Midwest, lots of eating whatever the **** I wanted. Lots of fat.
I try not to. I haven't taken straight acetaminophen by itself in years. I do have a bottle of 10/325 Vicodin that when things got really bad I would break one in half and take a half. I have completely quit drinking alcohol, and my usage, again, wasn't more than most of my friends, and considerably less than some.
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To me those enzyme numbers look like you just have some inflammation somewhere in your body. Could be an infection, from having a drink or two, prescription or OTC meds, etc... At least that is what my doc told me when mine were slightly elevated. Said if truly a liver condition y would be 10-100x the normal range.

Yeah, I'm not 23 anymore. It's time to quit ****ing acting like it.

You are younger than me and my enzymes were about b the same as yours back in January. I didn't have the high lymphocytes but my c-react was high. Went and got heart scan because of the c-react and it came back as less than 10% chance of heart attack. Got retested a week ago and everything back in range.

Initial test I had a cold and had a decent amount of some 100proof bourbon.

I also eat like cows are going extinct and I had to eat as much as possible before it does.

Point is not to stress out before getting all the data.

What's your bilirubin and WBC? I worked in a hospital lab for 6-7 years and those labs are really nothing to be that concerned about.

This is the bad thing about labs sending results directly to the patient. It is only natural to see the red text and get concerned.

Non alcoholic fatty liver disease is my guess, other likely cause is a random transient elevation where the cause is never elucidated.
Other things would be less common.

You're most likely right. I've cut waaaaaaay back on most everything, cut out alcohol completely (obviously), sleep better, and eat better. For about 3 weeks now, I haven't had bread or much of anything processed. I've went to Hot Yoga every day this week...and honestly I feel fantastic.

I think the combination of an infection with stress from the past year or so + the drinking and shitty cocaine (probably got an infection from whatever that bullshit was cut with, not the actual drug itself) converged for something that looked worse than what it was...but honestly, my body was under duress, and I wasn't helping by decisions I was making
And it wasn't all partying, sometimes I'd stay up and do homework all night, go to class, then say, hot yoga then band practice. And then go home and fall asleep while doing homework. And sometimes I'd do homework until 10 or 11, then go party and hang out with some young vixens until the wee wee hours, then drag myself into class at 9am.

We call it "rollin' pro". Staying up until whatever hour, then performing every duty throughout the day like a professional.

Now, I see how utterly ****ing ridiculous it is to brag about completing the nominal tasks you are expected to complete anyway...

So, yeah. You're most likely right. Now, I eat better, sleep better, don't drink alcohol, and feel 1000x better already.

Wonder how I'll feel a month from now...

I rarely see a non fatty liver these days with or without elevated LFTs

This is exactly my experience. They always come back steatohepatitis.

At least the plebotomist (sp??) that took my blood yesterday was excellent.

Have to go back for a stupid ****ing COVID test so I can go to JRAD this weekend.

"I need a COVID test."

Why, have you been exposed? Feeling sick?

"Nah, nah. It's just...I wanna go to a concert this weekend, a bunch of bureaucratic bullshit, can't believe it's still a thing."

Of course, Mr. Rouser. I'll have the doctor put the order in and you can come anytime tomorrow.

If your feeling good enough to go to a concert I'm happy for you. Hopefully have a good time. Probably doing better than I am right now but covid is stupid i spent a week with my GF she had covid and used my Burts Beez and i never got the covid but now I'm more hurting from a COPD flair up and kicking my ass that i may think about doing a life story if anyone is interested.

I don't want take away your thread Rabble and much respect with you battling through everything not easy.

It ain't "my" thread, bro - it's the "at the doctor's" thread.

It can be the medical repository of CP for all I care.

COPD, eh? That sucks. Did you smoke cigarettes?

Yeah, I actually feel way better since I've cut out all the fatty processed foods and alcohol. Been sleeping real regular, too. Like, on a schedule. I've lost 6 lbs too.

I quit Feb 8 2013 because I couldn't stop coughing to talk on the phone. I got better but then one day in August 2015 every thing changed for me. I woke up couldn't breath and didn't know what was going on. My nose was clogged best I could do was message my sister in law and have her take me to the hospital. For a minute I thought I was going be fine but betime i got to the hospital I was full blown ex-aspirations and collapsed so they got me inside ER and did a bunch of breathing treatments on me and i followed up with my doctor and set up a pulmonology test and concluded I'm stage 2 COPD and the way I felt I diagnosed myself with 6 months to live. I decided get in better shape and go do my favorite thing fish. I had to force myself to exercise and take better care of my self but mostly fish. So I took up kyaking as a hobby it helped with endurance and lung capacity.

However over the years I would get these flair ups and get terrible bronchial sick and go into fit of exasperation grasping for air and end up in ER or doctors. Most of the time I could recover and feel good enough to do most things and Kyaking the Rio Grand wasn't the smartest thing I could do but I lived and even though lost my Kayak i hiked 3 miles to where i was to be picked up and collapsed. That was death defying I knew i was in trouble when I hit my head on a rock. Yet was fun and dangerous I felt like a human pinball and I knew i was in trouble when I hit my head on a rock. That was I think summer 2018 and I was feeling good about myself. (i like telling that story) (I like telling that story)


But now I've gained some winter weight and that may contribute to this but was out in the cold air one day this last week and Friday I felt like shit I could tell one of these COPD Flair ups was going to hit me I know by my chest tightening up so usually i get steroids to help with inflammation I was wanting to counter it. Unfortunately my condition worsened this weekend and I was waiting on my GF to come home from work but suddenly the exasperation hit me fast and I couldn't do anything except message gibberish to my GF and hit my inhaler but it didn't do any good. When she got there she helped me with another inhaler hit and called 911. I went to the hospital did breathing treatment gave me cough medicine with codeine I love codeine but that's another addiction i didn't tell them. They gave me another boost steroid and antibiodics and more prescribed steroids so i'm all roided up want to fight?


I wish the roids would give me a boost of energy. This week anytime I get up to do something it's a chore like fixing coffee then I have to lay down and take it easy. Going to the store is a real bitch and use my inhaler. When I think I'm doing better then it hits me and lose my breath and wheeze and cough and faint. I don't think I'm on the verge of stage 3 because that's not going deture me from going fishing and kyaking at the lake. I know better than kyayak the Rio Grand did I mention I hit my head on a rock kyaking the Rio Grand?

I'll be fine. I'm supposed to get papers from work for FLMA for my doctor to fill out saying basically I have an ongoing excuse to miss work when ever I have flair ups. I've had them before but usually recover in a couple days but this is going on a week and Sunday was the major hit. My lungs or middle chest feels like it's on fire there is no relief. I either can't sleep or I sleep for 12+ hours from exhaustion. This last year I've been shot at and three attempts of suicide. I don't want a human kill me and I don't want God to kill me.


I didn't want hijack a thread thought about starting my own but I've started threads before about personal life.

Oh if curious about sex life with COPD we get it on pretty good until I go into exasperation and that does make it difficult but I can usually recover after a bit and go at it again. I'm not complaining in that department. She is worth dying for or taking my last breath for.

I'll be dammed. Here I thought I was having a major COPD flair up. Went to ER Friday got some roids and then got real bad Sunday night with exasperation and got to ride in an ambulance. Today for a followup I had a CT scan and blood work done. Well the receptionist from my doctor called and said there wasn't any inflammation in the lungs so that's the good news. Then she said my doctor wants to consult with me on Monday something about my esophagus . She wouldn't go into detail said doctor wants to see me Monday.

Well I looked up symptoms what could be the problem and holy shit it's everything I have going on. Burning chest coughing sore throat but I've had a lot of problems with acid reflux just wake up at night or lying down and vile come out of my mouth no fun no fun at all. So now I think could be an ulcer or gerd but my chest feeling on fire and being weak or exhausted just isn't the way I want to be. He put me on a new nebulizer medicine i take every four hours and cherry tussin with codeine me likes codeine.


Winter dragged on so I get depressed and eat and I started drinking slushies, I bet they are the culprit. I really hope I don't have major damage I've had issues for a long time and this just hit me like a ton of bricks but still better than dodging bullets.


I've never said anything about pains behind my left rib cage but that's another symptom. Why does life have to suck? I'll go all weekend wondering whats going on with my esophagus.

At least you saw the RAMS win it all in February. Thanks and best of luck to you!

I hope you were in the car with April.