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cmh6476 11-01-2022 12:06 PM

Steelers trade Chase Claypool to Bears
 
That's odd

redfan 11-01-2022 12:13 PM

Very Odd

Megatron96 11-01-2022 12:15 PM

Wow. What'd they get?

Red Dawg 11-01-2022 12:18 PM

He must be thrilled (not). At least will demand the bag and they will pay it so good for him. Steelers are done if you didn't think so already.

BigBeauford 11-01-2022 12:20 PM

Talk about out of the fire and into the pan. Bears suck too.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2022 12:20 PM

I don't think it's odd.

They need to give fields something to work with so he can grow. And they have an outside shot at being a bubble playoff team. They're in that unique category of teams where progress is a great goal and way more realistic than a championship.

They're no longer tanking. And they can't throw fields out to the wolves every week. Even if they overpaid it makes sense to me

Frazod 11-01-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16569134)
Wow. What'd they get?

Knowing the Bears, probably three first rounders. LMAO

TEX 11-01-2022 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 16569152)
Talk about out of the fire and into the pan. Bears suck too.

Exactly. There should be a rule against this.

Jerok 11-01-2022 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16569134)
Wow. What'd they get?

The bears 2nd round pick

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2022 12:40 PM

Keep in mind they traded away two blue chip defensive players.

Their priority is to rebuild, save a ton of money, but not throw fields bloody body into a shark pit. This move checks all those boxes. It's a solid move.

DenverChief 11-01-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16569154)
I don't think it's odd.

They need to give fields something to work with so he can grow. And they have an outside shot at being a bubble playoff team. They're in that unique category of teams where progress is a great goal and way more realistic than a championship.

They're no longer tanking. And they can't throw fields out to the wolves every week. Even if they overpaid it makes sense to me


yet they traded away their starting DE and a starting LB...

SuperBowl4 11-01-2022 12:52 PM

Pringle+Claypool=Super Bowl

ChiTown 11-01-2022 12:53 PM

lol

CatfishBob2 11-01-2022 01:00 PM

Chase Claypool+new offense+being a clear top 2 option with a QB with a live arm that isn't a statue. I'm a little intrigued

Frazod 11-01-2022 01:04 PM

The Bears do seem to have some potential. The beatdown they laid on New England was amazing. I guess a second rounder isn't that bad. They still have a ton of holes to plug. Pace did a ton of damage there before they finally greased him. He was their Pioli, except he lingered much longer.

kccrow 11-01-2022 01:08 PM

Great trade for Chicago in my opinion. The goal is to get better and right now the Bears severely lack at WR outside of Mooney.

When you get a WR like Claypool for a 2nd rounder, you're doing things right. It isn't just about THIS year. Going forward, Claypool helps them a bunch. If they are going to compete, they have to get more talented in the passing game.

KChiefs1 11-01-2022 01:08 PM

I like Poles but strange trade.


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KChiefs1 11-01-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16569435)
Great trade for Chicago in my opinion. The goal is to get better and right now the Bears severely lack at WR outside of Mooney.

When you get a WR like Claypool for a 2nd rounder, you're doing things right. It isn't just about THIS year. Going forward, Claypool helps them a bunch. If they are going to compete, they have to get more talented in the passing game.


They don’t have a QB.


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kccrow 11-01-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 16569333)
yet they traded away their starting DE and a starting LB...

I don't think trading away an aging asset like Quinn really matters. Gibson and Robinson are the long-haul and that's a good tandem.

Roquan Smith, I have to think the writing was on the wall that he didn't want to stay for a 2nd contract as he's playing on his 5th-year option. Better to get something higher than a 3rd round comp if you can, and they did.

So, in the end, I'm not sure those are bad deals.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 16569333)
yet they traded away their starting DE and a starting LB...

They traded away two defensive players (won't stop fields from getting killed) who costed a lot of money.

They added a wr who can help their first round pick grow as an actual passer who costs almost no money.

Their priority this year is to clean their cap and develop fields. In the process maybe try to compete. Makes sense to me. I don't see the point of spending huge dollars on defensive players if you're the bears right now. The bigger mistake was throwing fields to the wolves the way they did.

kccrow 11-01-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16569438)
They don’t have a QB.


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Yeah, I'm not a fan of Justin Fields.

They are also just good enough to be out of the sweepstakes for a top 2 pick. I'd venture to say they'll try to address it if they can but you never know. Poles seems to be dedicated to cleaning out the cobwebs though.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2022 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16569438)
They don’t have a QB.


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Probably not but if you're going to spend a top 15 pick on him its irresponsible to punt him to an island like they did. Especially with that bad offensive line. At least give him something to work with and give him a fair shot to sink.

He has actually been halfway decent compared to the rest of his QB class

CatfishBob2 11-01-2022 01:20 PM

I was going to say I don't think fields has been bad as I suspect most think he has been. I like his situation in Chicago better than his situation in Pittsburgh

tyecopeland 11-01-2022 06:11 PM

As a Mooney owner in most of my fantasy leagues I can tell you that fields isn't a great qb.

dlphg9 11-01-2022 06:37 PM

Good move for the Bears. Gotta give that QB some type of help.

Not saying it's the same thing, but look what Stefon Diggs did for Josh Allen. Gotta surround young QBs with talent.

TEX 11-01-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16569435)
Great trade for Chicago in my opinion. The goal is to get better and right now the Bears severely lack at WR outside of Mooney.

When you get a WR like Claypool for a 2nd rounder, you're doing things right. It isn't just about THIS year. Going forward, Claypool helps them a bunch. If they are going to compete, they have to get more talented in the passing game.

Yes. I can't figure out why in the world Pittsburgh traded Claypool. All you said also applies to them and their young QB.

CatfishBob2 11-01-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16570443)
As a Mooney owner in most of my fantasy leagues I can tell you that fields isn't a great qb.

Ironically Fields has been on a roll in fantasy. Considering seeing what I can get for Mahomes and grabbing him off waivers

dlphg9 11-01-2022 09:28 PM

Claypool is a ****ing beast. 6'4" 240 lbs and runs a 4.42 40. It's not like he doesn't have decent production and last year and the year before he had over 860 yards in each season. He hasn't had a QB worth a shit since he's been in the league.

He should be the number 1 guy in Chicago and should help Fields a ton. If Fields can just be not terrible, then Claypool will break out.

I really wish we would have gotten him. He would have balled out with Mahomes. Steelers are stupid for trading him.

Megatron96 11-01-2022 09:52 PM

I like Fields' toughness, and his athletic ability of course. And it's hard not to feel for the guy getting his ass kicked, running for his life and not having anyone he can trust on that offense. Gotta be a little lonely right about now.

If he ever gets a decent OL, he'll be okay. Not great, but a decent QB probably.

srvy 11-02-2022 07:04 AM

I would have loved for KC to have acquired this guy. He would have been awesome with Pat. Our own big push-off to get open type of receiver to mug db's.

I guess he was becoming a locker room problem according to talking heads so the squealers moved him.

chiefzilla1501 11-02-2022 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16570707)
Yes. I can't figure out why in the world Pittsburgh traded Claypool. All you said also applies to them and their young QB.

The Steelers have plenty for Pickett to work with and have the luxury of giving Pickens more reps since theyre not in win now mode. This allows them to keep the younger guy and ditch the older guy who will be due a contract soon.

Although it furthers the point that Tomlin is terrible at keeping WR attitudes in check.

Also it probably doesn't matter if you put prime Jerry rice in there as long as matt Canada is running the offense

Mecca 11-02-2022 07:14 AM

Pittsburgh has more big contracts they aren't gonna shed than Chicago does...Pittsburgh isn't gonna turn around and just get rid of Watt, Fitzpatrick Diontae Johnson etc.

Mecca 11-02-2022 07:15 AM

Fields is basically Lamar Jackson, you can win some games with him but you have to specialize the offense.

threebag 11-02-2022 07:20 AM

Fields will be alright, he will make Bears football bearable

chiefzilla1501 11-02-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16570945)
Fields is basically Lamar Jackson, you can win some games with him but you have to specialize the offense.

Kyler feels like the better comparison. Fields throws a very good ball. I don't think his decision making is quick so he'll bail more often than not. Nor do I think it ever will be. He's very athletic but won't break ankles like Lamar does.

penguinz 11-02-2022 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16570938)
The Steelers have plenty for Pickett to work with and have the luxury of giving Pickens more reps since theyre not in win now mode. This allows them to keep the younger guy and ditch the older guy who will be due a contract soon.

Although it furthers the point that Tomlin is terrible at keeping WR attitudes in check.

Also it probably doesn't matter if you put prime Jerry rice in there as long as matt Canada is running the offense

Tomlin is a product of inheriting Big Ben.

Mecca 11-02-2022 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16570969)
Tomlin is a product of inheriting Big Ben.

I don't think he's a bad coach but you can only be good for so long.

Dunerdr 11-02-2022 08:06 AM

The fact that GB didnt out bid them for Claypool blows my mind.

Mecca 11-02-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16571026)
The fact that GB didnt out bid them for Claypool blows my mind.

Green Bays GM is not good at his job...it's pretty obvious, the Steelers have basically had out there they'd take a 2 for Claypool for weeks..guarantee you GB offered a 3 or 4.

Dude is not a good GM.

Dunerdr 11-02-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16571031)
Green Bays GM is not good at his job...it's pretty obvious, the Steelers have basically had out there they'd take a 2 for Claypool for weeks..guarantee you GB offered a 3 or 4.

Dude is not a good GM.

That teams a steaming pile of shit, Rodgers is the only thing propping them up, and hes far from what he used to be. Coaching seems iffy from what little ive seen. The only players on the offense that look worth a damn are Rodgers and Jones the RB. And from what i saw they were dead set on running the back up rb 50/50 with Jones.

Mecca 11-02-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16571044)
That teams a steaming pile of shit, Rodgers is the only thing propping them up, and hes far from what he used to be. Coaching seems iffy from what little ive seen. The only players on the offense that look worth a damn are Rodgers and Jones the RB. And from what i saw they were dead set on running the back up rb 50/50 with Jones.

AJ Dillon is a good player, problem is giving your HOF QB 2 good backs and no WR's is completely stupid.

cmh6476 11-02-2022 08:17 AM

I was starting to think, watching Mahomes for so long, that the receiver talent isn't as important as other positions.

Then I'm watching the Packers struggle, and how much different the Bengals looked the other night with that one dude in the lineup for Chase, and you could tell it affected Burrow. So I guess QBs are important, as well as the talent around them.

Mecca 11-02-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 16571048)
I was starting to think, watching Mahomes for so long, that the receiver talent isn't as important as other positions.

Then I'm watching the Packers struggle, and how much different the Bengals looked the other night with that one dude in the lineup for Chase, and you could tell it affected Burrow. So I guess QBs are important, as well as the talent around them.

Those guys don't have Andy Reid.

The Packers OL isn't as good as it was as Bahktieri isn't the same player anymore. So you have an OL that has declined, Rodgers is getting old and he literally has no weapons.

If you were keeping him to go for it, you should have drafted weapons. I have no issue with AJ Dillon being on the team because Jones is so versatile you can do things with that...just it doesn't work as well when no one cares about your receivers.

rabblerouser 11-02-2022 08:21 AM

A day later, I'm still like :
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Urc Burry 11-02-2022 08:40 AM

I like it for both teams. Pickens is going to be a star.. still butthurt about that.

But Fields has looked a lot better now that they are using him like he should be. The WR FA class is going to be awful. They have a shit ton of cap space so they can improve the team elsewhere. Roquan has become extremely overrated, was not going to resign, and is not worth the money i he’s going to get

TEX 11-02-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16571057)
A day later, I'm still like :
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Me as well...:shake:

Skyy God 11-02-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16571056)
Those guys don't have Andy Reid.

The Packers OL isn't as good as it was as Bahktieri isn't the same player anymore. So you have an OL that has declined, Rodgers is getting old and he literally has no weapons.

If you were keeping him to go for it, you should have drafted weapons. I have no issue with AJ Dillon being on the team because Jones is so versatile you can do things with that...just it doesn't work as well when no one cares about your receivers.

You want backs that are multiple. Dillon is a pure rusher.

It was a bad pick, pure and simple.

Pitt Gorilla 11-02-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16570969)
Tomlin is a product of inheriting Big Ben.

Tomlin is a HOF coach.

Dunerdr 11-02-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16572174)
Tomlin is a HOF coach.

So is Bill Bellicheck but hes barely treading water with out TB.

penguinz 11-02-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16572174)
Tomlin is a HOF coach.

Because of Big Ben.

His record when Ben did not start is 18-15-1 before this season.

With this season added in: 20-21-1

Megatron96 11-03-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16571056)
Those guys don't have Andy Reid.

The Packers OL isn't as good as it was as Bahktieri isn't the same player anymore. So you have an OL that has declined, Rodgers is getting old and he literally has no weapons.

If you were keeping him to go for it, you should have drafted weapons. I have no issue with AJ Dillon being on the team because Jones is so versatile you can do things with that...just it doesn't work as well when no one cares about your receivers.

All of this.

LaFleur isn't a great HC or OC. He sure isn't on Andy's level.

But also, Aaron is aging, and he can't scramble the way he used to. Pat can and is one of the best in the league, so even if things don't go as planned with the play-call, Pat can escape and ad lib something most of the time. Aaron can't do that as well anymore.

And finally, his WRs are just okay. Basically, it's like he has Pringle and D-Rob out there and nothing else. That's pretty much the same as when we played IND in 2019. Pat was gimpy, Hill and Sammy were out, iirc. If Pat had to play with a bad wheel and Pringle and DRob as his WRs for 8 weeks, well it might've looked something like what's going on with GB right now.

kccrow 11-03-2022 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16572329)
Because of Big Ben.

His record when Ben did not start is 18-15-1 before this season.

With this season added in: 20-21-1

Behind every winning coach, there is generally a star QB. It's rare air for coaches that won a lot without one.

I mean, maybe you talk about Joe Gibbs but he didn't have shit at the position either.

They walk hand-in-hand bro.


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