A quick note about the Chiefs' coaching and intelligence
 

I watch other games, and I shake my head.

You see coaches not being able to get plays called in. Players lining up in the wrong spot. Players running out of bounds when they should stay in bounds, or staying in bounds when they should have run out of bounds. Players who don't know the game situation and celebrate a first down when they need to be lining up in a hurry up. Snapping the ball at the wrong time.

We never see players or coaches botching up stuff like that. We call plays with enough time to snow globe. We see Kelce and Mahomes designing plays with 13 seconds left because they see some gap in the defense. We see offensive linemen running downfield to call time outs when the clock situation is dire. Patrick Mahomes II knows every rule, down and distance, and clock situation there is.

I love how intelligent this team is from top to bottom, and how the coaches train the team so well.

My favorite Team is also the intelligent CHIEFS...


(great points Sir)

Interested to see what Andy draws up for a trick play or two tomorrow

The main part of it is Patrick Mahomes, as Reid said in his interview with Chris.

I hope it's something involving crowd noise.

he's saving that shit, i assure you

there is NO REASON to burn that on JAX

I could see showing just a little bit of something for Bills/bangels to think about...

Agree for the most part. The one maddening exception for me has been special teams, where there seems to be this belief that everybody needs to be a hero rather than just safely receive the ball and hand it back to the offense with some reasonable field position to work with.

Agreed. I was shocked watching the dolphins on offense in their game against buffalo. They couldn’t get plays called all game. You’d think that would be a high priority with a rookie qb. All of their second half timeouts were used to avoid a delay of game when they couldn’t get out of the huddle in time to get the snap off. We hardly ever see that crap with the chiefs.

Yeah, you can see him looking annoyed doing the "hurry up and get the call in" hand motion literally 3 seconds after every play lol

He is probably not fun to work with in that regard, but it makes for a good, prepared football team.

Our team makes up for the lack of intelligence with some of the Superfans.

there are no words to say how bad the dolphins were


I remember the number of "illegal formations" that were called on Haleys teams.

We just dont see that anymore. Calm is the name of the game.

I wonder if we ever just let mahomes all the plays like manning

It's probably better that we don't at this point.

First of all, we've got Andy Reid. Reid's play calling made offenses with Alex Smith at QB top 10 in scoring.

Second, Mahomes is a dawg so you know he's going to be calling nothing but pass plays lol

I still tend to get frustrated by clock management issues. We seem to be prone to scoring too quickly to end a half. That said, Andy’s clock management is better than it used to be.

Of course it always helps to have Mahomes, but the fact is Reid was here long before Mahomes and he has his system so deeply ingrained in this team that its almost foolproof by now

Institutionally, these guys know what needs to be done in their sleep

I find it fascinating that whenever there's a little potential for chaos on the field - a running clock, a penalty, a fourth down, whatever - Patrick Mahomes II always seems to be exactly on top of it. I'll be watching the TV and I'll see Patrick Mahomes II motioning for something or saying something, and I'll be pointing at the screen yelling, "He's right! He's right!"

My dog, Bean, does not like it when I yell at the television. If the Chiefs game or the Jayhawks game is causing involuntary utterances on my part, the dog gets anxious and might start barking - like, "I sense master has detected intruders at the door. I don't sense them myself, but I will help defend our home against intruders, whether they be USPS carriers or FEDEX drivers. Arf! Arf! Arf!"

The Chiefs are arguably the best coached team in the NFL, top to bottom. It's a great time to be a Chiefs fan, though some don't seem to be aware of it.

Last week I was seconds away from driving to Buffalo and beat the shit out of the Dolphins OC and Head Coach for being complete ****ups in having EVERY GOD DAMN PLAY go down to 0 on the clock and them rushing.

Then at the end they squandered at least 30 seconds huddling and doing stupid clock management shit including a substitution at 12 seconds. They had several delay of games and could have had another 4-5 as the refs gave them some leeway.

In my 52 years of watching pro football, this was the WORSE by a mile. :mad:

I'm very happy to know that your dog is named Bean.

Beans, said Homer.

Extra rep for anyone who knows what that is reference to.

I bet that it's from the Iliad, during the chapter about the battle for Troy.

Should do a poll to find out who we think is the most intellectual team to the least intellectual team. My hunch is the Raiders and Broncos would be the bottom feeders.

If that the biggest problem, I’ll take “Scoring too quickly”. Other team’ fans must feel like we did back in the Edwards / Brodie Croyle era when the problem was simply “scoring”.

Agreed. He has good pedigree.

I’ve noticed that many of Andy Reid’s supposed clock management issues disappeared with Mahomes.

Thirty seconds is enough for two Chiefs scoring drives.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rain Man again.

Great thread- wanted to give you some good rep, but I guess I already blew my load.

Well, I knew it would not take long for someone to bring up this stuff. Fandom blinds some to reality and normalcy. Those plays sucked. But there is the context surrounding all those things. It is not like Toub was just ignoring and blatantly refusing to do anything about those things. To say otherwise is just being obtuse.

My favorite team is the smartest team!

Mensa Chiefs.

The book: “Who’s a Pest. A Homer story”?

I went to r/miamidolphins after the game to read the carnage. There was none. Fins fans were perfectly happy with the season and Mike McDaniel. The game being closer than expected wiped away accountability on McDaniel reading the Denny’s menu while the clock was going tick tick tick.

Wilson knows the audibles for two different teams! He just can’t remember which is which.

It’s certainly all relative, isn’t it?

Yep. Now, how did you know that?

Damn, that's sad.

The things we make look easy are actually really difficult. Once a play is over, there is down and distance, play selection, personnel groupings, play articulation, motion, and then snap.

I tried multiple approaches to solve the riddle:
First I tried to recall if anywhere in my past I had come across these words. While having a near eidetic memory, I must admit, this approach failed me.
Then I tried a self-hypnotic regression to see if I could possibly retrieve a blocked or regressed memory. This also produced no joy.
Feeling desperate, I tried to tap the Akashic plane and access all cosmic knowledge and data in the universe. However, I again could not solve the riddle.
Then, in a stroke of inspiration I realized I just Google "Beans, said Homer" and cut/paste the results into my response. This approach worked for me.
It's a fairly obscure reference, how did you come to know it by heart?

I understand different moments in the game that get away from the coaches or players but holy ****, it was EVERY PLAY and I'm not exaggerating.

It was a train wreck. :doh!:

I'm kind of amazed at how smoothly personnel changes happen in the NFL. You'll see players running on and off the field all the time, and there are seldom mistakes. It all happens really fast, too.

I would HATE to be in charge of that stuff. You've got to choose a good play within 1-2? seconds of the last one ending and then do literally everything else. Chiefs are amazing at it.

(If we aren't, though, it's clearly EB's fault.)

Not if you’re Mark McDaniel. Get it done with 12 seconds left and all good.

Agree with OP, our players seem to know the situation much better than other teams. But do they really deserve a medal for doing their job? Any player in the NFL has been playing football since they were about 7 years old and knowing what to do in specific situations is quite literally their job. A job they are paid very well to do. Their is absolutely no reason for any player on any team not to know what is going on.

With these guys it is THEIR JOB to know where you are supposed to line up, what blitzers to pick up, not to jump offsides on 3rd and 3, to get plays in in a timely manner, to know all the audibles, when to field or not to touch a punted ball, etc.

These guys will make bonehead mistakes as long as the owners don't hold players and coaches accountable. Did Dee Ford ever play another game for us after his horrible mental error? I don't think he did and rightly so.

I imagine it's a lot like a chess player playing for so long they know the moves and counter moves and are already thinking 5, 10, 20 steps ahead.

"vBulletin Message
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Peter Gibbons again."

It was my favorite book mom used to read to me. I am not certain why. Maybe it was a 4 year old horndog that wanted to bang Lolly, Molly, Polly, and Dolly.

Obviously you haven't watched too many teams outside of the Chiefs, because screwing up procedures is pretty common by most other teams.

Take DAL last year in the playoffs. Coached by SB-winner Mike McCarthy they couldn't run one play in under 18 seconds. MIA couldn't run a 2-minute offense without calling 3 TOs.

And that's just the most visible procedural gaffes I can think of in recent memory.

Hell, how many times during PT games just this season have we watched NFL teams unable to get through a single 2-minute series or just run no-huddle without taking at least one procedural flag.

But the Chiefs rarely have those issues. And you've become so accustomed to our units running things smoothly, that you now think that it's easy and everyone should be able to do it.

Lolz, just go back and watch any PT game, even playoff games in recent history and watch teams eff shit up that you think is so easy.

It's eye-opening, bud

Yes a professional football player or coach should know what to do in every situation. IT IS THEIR JOB!!!! They have all been playing football their whole life and now they are getting paid quite well to play or coach football so yes it should be 2nd nature to them and there is absolutely no excuse for not being able to get plays in in a timely manner or fielding a punt at your own 5 yard line,etc. These guys only job in life is to succeed on the football field so yes knowing things like when to go OB and when to stay in bounds should be easy for someone who makes their living playing football

Lol, okay.

Here's the NFL rulebook. You have a week to have this memorized front to back, word perfect. I'll hit you with half a dozen questions that are situationally specific, you'll have 10 seconds to give me the correct answer.
https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules.../#pdf-download

Speaking of situational awareness, the Bengals’ endgame against the Bills was nearly perfect, running out every possible second and they even had a great coffin-corner punt.

Don't get what point you are trying to make. Who said anything about the rulebook? Are you saying it's acceptable for a NFL player to not know where he's supposed to be lined up? What blitzer he is supposed to pick up? What packages he's supposed to be on/off the field? When he is supposed to get out or stay in bounds? What man he is responsible to cover? You think knowing these things is difficult? They practice this day in day out for years. These mental errors should never happen especially in crucial situations.

If your opponent is punting on 4th and 3 late in the game you don't think every player on the return team should know "If I go offsides or rough the kicker we lose the game." ? It is literally their job to know this and you think it's acceptable to not be aware of things like this?

lolz, so tap out on the mental agility test. Got it.

i'm saying there's ton of things to remember, and a ton of things going on very quickly. It's pretty easy to make mistakes when you're in a time crunch and there's a ton of distractions.

And in case you haven't noticed, players and coaches eff up all that shit you listed there, every week. We're watching a couple teams screw it up repeatedly right now.

What Andy and his staff do to coach these players up to the point that they can do what they do pretty much error-free is exceptional. And we know it's exceptional because most teams can't do it.

Reminds me of Chris Rock saying some people will brag about things they are supposed to do. "I pay my child support." "I've never been in jail." You're SUPPOSTED to pay your child support!! You aren't SUPPOSED to be in jail!!!

I kind of understand things like Leon Lett not knowing he couldn't touch the blocked FG because it was in a very rare situation but if you play football for a living you are SUPPOSED to know where to line up at!! You are SUPPOSED to know when to run out or stay in bounds!!! If you are an OC being paid millions of dollars you're SUPPOSED to get the plays in on time!!! Not very difficult

Lolz, okay. I shouldn't believe my lying eyes. thanks for the wisdom.:drool:

Yes, that is the point, and they should know most of the rules. I played through college, coached, and have actively watched 1000's of games over my life and know most of the rules and situations. I have a fraction of the experience an NFL head coach has... and there is no excuse for many of these poor decisions.

Impossible.

Everyone knows Andy Reid is terrible at clock management because Philly fans and bloggers said so.

I'm not saying other teams don't make horrendous mental errors, I completely agree with you. I'm saying it's completely unacceptable if you have been playing football your whole life, you are getting paid to play football and your livelihood depends on knowing these simple things.

LOL!!! Elijah Mitchell just could have ended the game staying in bounds but ran out!!! JFC These guys are dumb!!!

49ers dude didn't know to go down in bounds at this point of the game. Chiefs players know what to do in that situation.

Then the Dallas punt returner fair catch at the 5!! WTF!!!! I think you have a point

And now the Cowboy player doesn't make an effort to get both feet down in bounds. We're watching bad football.

2 plays after he forgot that the clock doesn't stop if you get knocked backwards as you're going oob.

Schultz clearly had something better to be do because he had no interest at all in playing that last drive.

No, but it's easy; some dude was in here a second ago telling me just how easy it is to coach/play in the NFL. Don't believe your lying eyes, man.