The Flash
 

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That looks like a good movie:

The Flash is my favorite super hero so I'm in. I've been waiting for this since Justice League.

Ezra Miller is a serial criminal and a creeper.

It really does. Too bad Ezra Miller had to shit all over everything in real life. I'll definitely see this though.

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Hopefully Gunn will retain Keaton as Batman

Hopefully Gunn will retain Keaton as Batman

You can say that again.

They going to go Flashpoint?

Could be a great way to nuke the established DCEU and start over with all of the changes they've made.

This is definitely flashpoint

DC's already said it's based off Flashpoint. I have high hopes that this will actually be good given how good Flashpoint's plot is.

I've heard they may have filmed stuff but cut it cause of the Gunn hire and changes

Gunn claims that he had 0 involvement with the Flash.

Ezra Miller is an absolute train wreck of a human being. I'm a little bit surprised this film is being released considering how David Zaslav showed up with an axe and pruned films that were already in the can (Batgirl chief among them) due to Miller being a dumpster fire and general shit magnet. Gunn must have convinced the powers that be he needed this film and the Flashpoint premise to set up his new universe, somehow. Maybe.

So I wonder who made this move then? Gadot was supposed to as well

https://nypost.com/2022/12/19/henry-...e-flash-movie/

That and this movie may actually be good too

The Flashpoint storyline is fantastic, I hope it turns out well. And I'm stoked about Keaton - I wonder if they'll go full No Way Home and have anumber of alternate characters in here.....

Jeez Michael Keaton is 71 isn't he a bit old for Batman?

I've seen rumors that Christian Bales batman might be in this as well.

So it's No Way Home with Batman instead but The Flash is the MC?

Looks like it. And a SuperGIRL instead of a SuperMAN.

DCEU is playing eternal catchup with the MCU, and now looking unoriginal doing it. I'll still see it just to see a facsimile of Flashpoint on the big screen, but yeah.

Saw the trailer during the Super Bowl and said "Oh, I figured they'd drop the Flash with all of Miller's issues." Guy is a POS.

This movies been around for a year or so maybe more. They've kept it cause it sounds like it'll be good and the studio is behind it. Gunn will use this to reset everything and to be where he is going with the dcu. I don't expect them to keep Ezra Miller going forward either. They won't say that now though.
Aquaman 2 will probably be the last movie of the Zack Snyder DC.

I'm excited to see what Gunn will bring moving forward. DC shouldn't be a mixed bag at best in movies.

No idea, but I don't think Gunn called for it.

Theoretically they could make Calle's Supergirl an elseworld character depending on the success of the movie (which I think it should do well).

It was supposed to come out in November 2022 before being pushed to June 2023(which coincided with Miller's behavior).

Gunn didn't say one way or another if Miller will be back as they're getting treatment for their mental health, but I'm 99% certain Miller is gone.

I read a comment on social media somewhere that Bale's Batman was rumored to be in it. It could be a completely unsubstantiated rumor, but that would be fun and audiences would go ****ing crazy.

Smoke

ROFL

Don't think I've ever heard of this guy, so what's the cliffs notes version of what he's done?

Just your normal disorderly conduct, harassment, threatening the KKK, throwing chairs at people, accused of grooming some kids, burglary, and finally ending up in treatment for "complex mental health issues". He had an active 2022.

Didn't he get charged with kidnapping too?

I see. So what you are saying is that he's potentially a sleeper pick for "celebrity death pool: 2023".

That sounds right. But I wouldn't want to ruin his reputation by making that type of accusation without proof. :p

I think he's pretty high on the list.

So ****ing good. I laughed, I cried, I fudged my undies.

It has maybe THE BEST two-shot ending I've seen in a DC film.

Incredible heart, humor and action.

Michael Keaton absolutely stole the show.

There's some dodgy CGI in parts but I just didn't care. And wow, that score. Danny Elfman lives!

The cameos are SUPERB

Aside from all the from all the butt shots. I thought it was done really well. I loved the re-introduction of Michael Keaton for one last go around as Batman; George Clooney not so much.

watch the spoilers

Keaton is still the king at playing Batman.

Obviously he completely steals the show in this film.

What sucks is that this was simply a tease.

Now I want another Keaton Batman film....like a Batman Beyond movie where Keaton, an old Bruce, trains and mentors a student in the Beyond suit, but he still has to intervene to prevent major **** ups along the way. Doesnt have to have any DCU connections and it shouldn't. Just a stand alone movie for all of us 80s kids to enjoy.

A few people have made a fan made trailer and the idea would be promising.

I wondered throughout the movie if the cartoonish CGI was done on purpose or not.

Considering that it looked vastly different when they were out of the time bubble it may have been on purpose, to differentiate.

It didn't bother me.

BTW, was the Zod actor from Man of Steel actually IN this, or was he all digital? If so, he looked awesome.

I think he's too old to carry a movie himself that way.

Loved this movie. The cameos were fantastic, Keaton killed it. Love the humor. These super heroes movies need to lighten up. Don’t force humor. Build it into the story. Inthink yhe other universe CGI was on purpose.

Way better than I was expecting. Give me more.

Just sat down at the theatre and have Mrs Monty with me.

:popcorn:

Enjoyable movie, but I don’t get this:

Don't over think it. It's just fan service.

The DC movies have mostly been dour garbage. Nolan's Batman and THE BATMAN were good, but also quite depressing.

The Flash was a complete breath of fresh air in that sense.

I feel like they nailed the formula they need going forward.

This was good enough I'll go back and watch Justice League now, and MAYBE Aquaman, and Wonder Woman 84 just because Gal Gadot is hot.

Skipping the rest for LMAO

Shut your whore mouth. Batman Forever is a ****ing masterpiece.

Superman I and II with Reeve, both Keaton and Kilmer Batman movies, TDK trilogy, Joker, Wonder Woman, The Batman, and Aquaman are all fine movies.

DC just ****ed up yerribly to rush to make Batman vs Superman instead of make a Man of Steel sequel.

Man of Steel was actually pretty good as well.

I won’t change the channel when I see it on.

It is a fun ride for sure.

I don't need Batman to be gritty and depressing.

It’s watchable, yes. Just pretty meh though.

And the fact it's at 56% on RT is why I don't give a shit what they say about Indy 5.

Man Of Steel was a bad movie that was overrated by critics and even more overrated by the fanboys, yet still got rated "rotten" by the critics, as it should have.

Man of Steel had Michael Shannon and one of Hans Zimmer's best scores.

It was a great movie. You hate everything LMAO

general zod gets married

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...zMzY@._V1_.jpg

I don't hate everything. I acknowledge bad movies as bad, even if I like personally them and consider them to be guilty pleasure movies. You lose your mind fawning over just about every movie that you even have the slightest hope won't suck.


Huge difference.

False narrative. I hated Rise of Skywalker.

You are just another CPer who thinks most everything sucks.

I'd love to see you posting about a movie you actually think is good.

I went into this thinking it'd be so-so at best, and also to see how bad they were going to screw up the Flashpoint story (one of DC's best), but I loved it. Easily one of the best movies DC has ever put out. Not only did they NOT screw up the story, they did a great job incorporating it into the DCU for James Gunn's DCU reset.

Not a false narrative, at all:



And I have posted movies that I think are good.

Had high expectations going in and was pretty let down. Seeing Keaton and Reeve was cool but other than that pretty meh. No where near GOTG.

I was the opposite.....I expected nothing and was pleasantly surprised. Agreed on it not being GotG, but it was entertaining.

The whole... "well they couldn't just trash it for tax purposes they need to try and make some money off of it" ... really blew up in their face huh?

They've been trying to do a Flash movie since the 80's... and this is what they put out...

a movie that was plagued with backstage drama and a lead actor who committed multiple bizare headline making crimes... rushed cameos cause they had no faith in the actual story... really dodgy cgi for a movie that was going to live or die on that... being based on Flashpoint itself which is not a particularly fondly remembered story... AND is completely unearned.... AND makes itself redundant by the end...

I also don't understand DC's obsession with the flashpoint story. The first movie about this character should not be ****ing flashpoint..flashpoint is dark and dire with no hope which means for that to impact at all you need the world to be bright and happy beforehand. Having flashpoint literally follow the Snyder movies does nothing because dark and dire is his entire universe.

It was an utterly stupid plan from day 1.

Here's Mecca to tell us something sucks again! Even when we had an absolutely great time watching it! LMAO

You really should have a bit of dignity when judging a film...DC in general has no idea what the **** they are doing on the movie side.

I laughed, I cried, I fudged my undies.

Great friggin' flick!

You should lighten up and stop being such a depressing chode about entertainment.

There's so much I disagree with here.

1. The movie has been ****ed for the past year + because of all the shit that Miller's done and they were in a lose-lose situation. Either move forward with Miller but not spend a shit ton in publicizing while risking not being break-even, re-cast Flash altogether, or not release the movie at all. I think WB did the best they could given the situation.

2. The movie was basically DOA when Gunn took over. The initial ending is not what was shown in theaters:

That basically leaves a Frankenstein monster where Muschietti has to end the DCEU while also leaving some room for Aquaman 2 (which I don't understand because chronologically Aquaman 2 should be before Flashpoint in terms continuity + interest, but whatever).

3. WTF do you mean it's not a fondly remembered story? The criticism with Flashpoint has more to do with what DC wrote after it-The New 52-not the story itself.

4. I completely disagree here. What should a Flash movie be given the context?
Batfleck was already announced as not being a thing before shooting, Cavill was announced as not being Superman in the future, and Jenkins not proposed WW3 being canceled because of WW84. Quite literally, they had no choice but to do Flashpoint.

I understand DC gets a lot of criticism (much of it deserved), but this movie doesn't deserve it. Yes, the CGI is shoddy at spots, but I think the plot + story was good and attempted to be faithful to the original lore and source material while providing fan service, unlike say, Rise of Skywalker.

Man, the more I think about it, the more I realize Flash is getting ****ed over by how shit Batman vs Superman is.

Literally half of DC's problems wouldn't be a thing if that movie didn't exist.

Just hear me out here..maybe just maybe they shouldn't have hired Zack Snyder?

Man of Steel was fine.

I don’t necessarily agree with all the decisions made, even the director’s cut of Batman vs Superman was still bad, but his version of Justice League was good.

WB should never have green lit Batman Vs Superman in the first place to launch the Justice League. And should have never felt like they were in a race with Marvel to do so. If they actually took time to do a Man of Steel sequel and a solo Batfleck movie, I think how we view the Snyderverse is a lot different.

They made bad decision after bad decision..those are just a few, other this idea that the entire universe should be really dark and brooding.

Superman is not a ****ing dark and brooding character.

Superman is a boring as **** character who shouldn’t be relied on to carry an entire trilogy by himself.

Imagine a MoS sequel with Green Arrow or WW introduced to help? Count me in.

He is, but he's the boyscout character and there are tons of people that would love to do a Superman movie.

They need to replace every single person in that division, they just have no idea what they're doing.

Gunn's already announced his Superman is loosely based off of All-Star Superman, which is more of the boy scout vibe you're referring to.

I think DC can produce decent superhero movies if WB doesn't ****ing meddle with everything. In terms of writing, Joker and Nolan trilogy are far superior to any story written in the MCU save for Infinity War/Endgame (which are mega events), and Winter Soldier. I also think DC's "worst" movies can be way worse than Marvel's worst. Marvel, for the better part of the past 15 years, has made movies that don't rock the boat too much. Not as much upside to great but still less downside to be bad.

If Gunn's given full control to do whatever the **** he wants, their movies should be fine. I think Marvel's in a vulnerable position given a majority of their movies have been super mid since Endgame and are now tied to an actor who has some pretty serious allegations against him. No way in hell will the DCU come close to the MCU, but the next few years should help secure it's footing while the DCEU was put behind the 8 ball with the MCU having a 5 year head start.

If not, DC is ****ed.

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