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Mephistopheles Janx 03-30-2023 06:32 PM

Star Trek: Starfleet Academy series... CONFIRMED
 
https://www.startrek.com/news/new-se...rfleet-academy

You know who is an instructor at the Academy? Only the most important man in the entire history of Starfleet...

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp...ks-900x506.jpg

Hammock Parties 03-30-2023 09:12 PM

at least it's not about the damn TOS era

should be good

Jamie 03-30-2023 09:52 PM

Kurtzman is co-showrunner, I'm out.

Mephistopheles Janx 05-22-2024 02:36 AM

Update - Star Trek lands Oscar winner Holly Hunter to lead this new series.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/sta...er-1236011724/

Hammock Parties 05-22-2024 09:17 AM

32nd Century? Groan.

Indian Chief 05-22-2024 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17527803)
32nd Century? Groan.

Was that the setting for all of the time travel / time war in Enterprise? Been a while and I don't remember off the top of my head.

Mephistopheles Janx 05-23-2024 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17527803)
32nd Century? Groan.

Why does that make you groan?

We now have Strange New Worlds set in the pre TOS era, Picard recently ended following up the TNG era, and Discovery went into the future.

Lower Decks, which is amazing and if you don't like it you are wrong, is post TNG era as well.

On top of that we are getting a Section 31 movie and we are getting a pre TOS movie which will be produced by the man that brought us the Deadpool movies, Logan, and SW: Rebels.

https://deadline.com/2024/05/simon-k...lm-1235926001/

Mephistopheles Janx 06-12-2024 11:32 PM

Paul Giamatti joins the cast...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...my-1235919262/

RealSNR 06-13-2024 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17528727)
Why does that make you groan?

We now have Strange New Worlds set in the pre TOS era, Picard recently ended following up the TNG era, and Discovery went into the future.

Lower Decks, which is amazing and if you don't like it you are wrong, is post TNG era as well.

On top of that we are getting a Section 31 movie and we are getting a pre TOS movie which will be produced by the man that brought us the Deadpool movies, Logan, and SW: Rebels.

https://deadline.com/2024/05/simon-k...lm-1235926001/

I think they're going to look and sound like morons if they set it in the 32nd century.

No discernible differences in ship or technology advancements from the 24th century other than apparently everyone time travels like it's nothing.

It's one thing to jump a century+ from the original series into the TNG era. But practically a millennium? Gross.

Mephistopheles Janx 06-13-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17550243)
I think they're going to look and sound like morons if they set it in the 32nd century.

No discernible differences in ship or technology advancements from the 24th century other than apparently everyone time travels like it's nothing.

It's one thing to jump a century+ from the original series into the TNG era. But practically a millennium? Gross.

What tech did you want to see improved upon?

Courtesy of the shit-show that was Discovery we have:

* Nacelles that are Quantum locked onto the ship and can be moved to change the configuration of the ship.

* more powerful tricorders that gave more information and could be imbedded in the person's eye

* they can now reliably use transwarp conduits and quantum slipstrerams

* the transporter has a much greater range now

* personal transporters on tri-com badges

* programmable matter

* weapons that appear in their hands on command vs holstered

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Don't forget that "the burn" severely reduced the Federation's numbers thus it hacked at their ability to create a bunch of new tech. Hell, it also limited their movement thus materials were far more scarce.

For some reason... the Mirror Universe bothers me more than time travel.

Frazod 06-13-2024 07:04 PM

The mirror universe episodes are silly (with all the initial changes to the timeline made by Spock there's no way all of the characters from the later shows would even exist, let alone be in the same place), but I still really enjoy them. I enjoy seeing evil versions of the goody two shoes characters and their various interactions. I also get the sense that the actors enjoy shelving the goody two shoes crap and chewing the scenery in over-the-top villainous roles. You could almost feel the joy of Nana Visitor playing the twisted pervert version of Kira. Hell, I wouldn't mind a series set in the mirror universe. Couldn't be any worse than Discovery.

listopencil 06-17-2024 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17551197)
The mirror universe episodes are silly (with all the initial changes to the timeline made by Spock there's no way all of the characters from the later shows would even exist, let alone be in the same place), but I still really enjoy them. I enjoy seeing evil versions of the goody two shoes characters and their various interactions. I also get the sense that the actors enjoy shelving the goody two shoes crap and chewing the scenery in over-the-top villainous roles. You could almost feel the joy of Nana Visitor playing the twisted pervert version of Kira. Hell, I wouldn't mind a series set in the mirror universe. Couldn't be any worse than Discovery.

I wanted a mirror universe spinoff as soon as I finished TOS episode Mirror, Mirror for the first time back in 1970-something.

listopencil 06-17-2024 08:40 AM

Also: Not interested in Academy. Sounds like shit.

Mephistopheles Janx 06-17-2024 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 17554261)
Also: Not interested in Academy. Sounds like shit.

The only things we know about it are two of the actors and the setting. A bit early to declare it shit, no?

Either way... we aren't the target audience for this series much like we weren't the target audience for Prodigy and most of you weren't the target audience for Lower Decks.

listopencil 06-17-2024 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17554472)
The only things we know about it are two of the actors and the setting. A bit early to declare it shit, no?

Either way... we aren't the target audience for this series much like we weren't the target audience for Prodigy and most of you weren't the target audience for Lower Decks.

No. It sounds like a coming-of-age TV show set in a fictional college. There will be Trek window dressing to appropriate the established universe, and there will be nothing about it to provide storytelling opportunities like previous Trek shows. Hey, kids! Saved By The Bell...in space! But not really in space. Near San Francisco!

Mephistopheles Janx 06-17-2024 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 17554531)
No. It sounds like a coming-of-age TV show set in a fictional college. There will be Trek window dressing to appropriate the established universe, and there will be nothing about it to provide storytelling opportunities like previous Trek shows. Hey, kids! Saved By The Bell...in space! But not really in space. Near San Francisco!

Ok... I think I understand what you mean. It sounds like shit in the sense that you aren't interested in it. Not necessarily that it sounds like shit as in it going to be a terrible program that even their intended audience won't like.

Perhaps it will be something more like Scrubs but with sci-fi danger instead of comedy. Or Friday Night Lights, Freaks and Geeks, or a Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

I'm holding out hope that they learned something from the backlash over Discovery.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2024 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17550243)
I think they're going to look and sound like morons if they set it in the 32nd century.

Just set it post Picard. There's no reason to get crazy...the same damn era worked for the best decade of Trek, um, ever?

listopencil 06-18-2024 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17555085)
Ok... I think I understand what you mean. It sounds like shit in the sense that you aren't interested in it. Not necessarily that it sounds like shit as in it going to be a terrible program that even their intended audience won't like.

Perhaps it will be something more like Scrubs but with sci-fi danger instead of comedy. Or Friday Night Lights, Freaks and Geeks, or a Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

I'm holding out hope that they learned something from the backlash over Discovery.

Yeah. Just not a mini-genre that I am fond of at all. It would have to be unusually well done to interest me.

Mephistopheles Janx 06-18-2024 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17555208)
Just set it post Picard. There's no reason to get crazy...the same damn era worked for the best decade of Trek, um, ever?

As you can see by the OP... I'm not in disagreement about when this show should have been set in and you can see who I think should have been the lead.

I don't know why they would look or sound like morons just because it is set in the 32nd century... any more than TOS or TNG did for being set when they were in relation to when they aired.

Not that I am trying to convince you to like it... if anything I will reserve those efforts for Lower Decks.

JohnnyV13 06-19-2024 03:32 PM

Well, they were setting up the fat redhead from Discovery to teach at the Academy.

What is she going to teach, "How to get fat despite AI and food tech that helps you stay fit?"

Mephistopheles Janx 06-19-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 17557288)
Well, they were setting up the fat redhead from Discovery to teach at the Academy.

What is she going to teach, "How to get fat despite AI and food tech that helps you stay fit?"

Well she is an Engineer who was fast tracked through the academy because of her skill, served as XO, and as lead Science officer.

I'm gonna guess she will be teaching Engineering.

lawrenceRaider 06-20-2024 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17557535)
Well she is an Engineer who was fast tracked through the academy because of her skill, served as XO, and as lead Science officer.

I'm gonna guess she will be teaching Engineering.

How to engineer a lifestyle that makes one fat?

lawrenceRaider 06-20-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17555294)
As you can see by the OP... I'm not in disagreement about when this show should have been set in and you can see who I think should have been the lead.

I don't know why they would look or sound like morons just because it is set in the 32nd century... any more than TOS or TNG did for being set when they were in relation to when they aired.

Not that I am trying to convince you to like it... if anything I will reserve those efforts for Lower Decks.

Lower Decks is so damn good.

Mephistopheles Janx 06-21-2024 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 17558372)
How to engineer a lifestyle that makes one fat?

Theoretical Engineering... the people who made it possible to go from warp 5 on the NX Enterprise to 9.975 on Voyager.

Jamie 07-27-2024 07:22 PM

Good news, The Doctor from Voyager is going to be a series regular in this. Bad news, several Discovery characters are going to be in it too.

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17557535)
Well she is an Engineer who was fast tracked through the academy because of her skill, served as XO, and as lead Science officer.

I'm gonna guess she will be teaching Engineering.

Given that she traveled nearly 1000 years into the future, she should really be a student rather than a teacher. Can you imagine bringing someone from the year 1024 to the present day and then expecting them to teach?

Bowser 07-27-2024 07:32 PM

The good news is a professor from 1024 would show us how to build roads that didn't go to shit within three years, and our trebuchet game would be on point.

Mephistopheles Janx 07-27-2024 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 17604454)
Good news, The Doctor from Voyager is going to be a series regular in this.

https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/up...y-icegif-8.gif

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Bad news, several Discovery characters are going to be in it too.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Ztd...fMS4/giphy.gif

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Given that she traveled nearly 1000 years into the future, she should really be a student rather than a teacher. Can you imagine bringing someone from the year 1024 to the present day and then expecting them to teach?
Depends what they are teaching. For example, Muhammad ibn Musa Al-Khwarizmi could teach Algebra. Several people from that time could teach Latin. Sun Tzu could still teach strategy.

I understand what you are saying, though, and had the same thought. I can't imagine she is teaching any high level classes regardless how much of a prodigy she is.

Tribal Warfare 07-30-2024 03:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 BREAKING - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StarTrek?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StarTrek</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StarfleetAcademy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StarfleetAcademy</a> Brings Back Robert Picardo + More!<br><br>Star Trek actors Tig Notaro, Oded Fehr, and Mary Wiseman of Star Trek: Discovery and Robert Picardo of Star Trek: Voyager and Star Trek: Prodigy have joined the cast of Star Trek: Starfleet Academy! <a href="https://t.co/clJ6mzOPRF">pic.twitter.com/clJ6mzOPRF</a></p>&mdash; Trek Central (@TheTrekCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1817319215470190892?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Frazod 07-30-2024 04:31 PM

No way in hell am I watching this.

Mephistopheles Janx 07-30-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 17604454)
Good news, The Doctor from Voyager is going to be a series regular in this. Bad news, several Discovery characters are going to be in it too.

I originally booed the casting from Discovery but in light of...


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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17608186)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨 BREAKING - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StarTrek?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StarTrek</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/StarfleetAcademy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#StarfleetAcademy</a> Brings Back Robert Picardo + More!<br><br>Star Trek actors Tig Notaro, Oded Fehr, and Mary Wiseman of Star Trek: Discovery and Robert Picardo of Star Trek: Voyager and Star Trek: Prodigy have joined the cast of Star Trek: Starfleet Academy! <a href="https://t.co/clJ6mzOPRF">pic.twitter.com/clJ6mzOPRF</a></p>&mdash; Trek Central (@TheTrekCentral) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1817319215470190892?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'll take it and it is a YAY from me. We knew Tilly was gonna be there. That was never in doubt as they set it up at one of the ongoing end scenes of Discovery. I think that she, apart from Burnham, could actually pull off being the orientation/welcome to Star Fleet - 1st years teacher role. It isn't like we really got to see a whole lot of what Tilly could be due to the fact that Burnham ate 80% of the dialogue on the show whether it be her speaking or other characters speaking about her.

Tig Notaro as Jett Reno is a HUGE addition for me. I would 100% watch the Reno/Stammets Power Hour if it were ever to be made. Reno was a highlight in the train wreck that was Discovery. Tig is perfect for the role of Reno.

Odid was a nice break from the typical Starfleet Admiral. I don't know if you will understand what I mean, Lower Decks does a really good job of exaggerating it, but an air of massive overconfidence, bravado, and pomposity that they tend to speak with. They tended to come off as take charge but more often than not were actually dumb, incompetent, or just Badmirals (if you didn't know it... yes, that is a term). Like... anytime I saw an Admiral show up in any of the older Trek series I was always waiting to see what member of the crew they were gonna **** over that time.

Hell... that was a trope that not even the greatness of Picard S3 was able to pull off (Shelby).

Mephistopheles Janx 07-30-2024 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17608285)
No way in hell am I watching this.

I don't blame you... this show is aimed at people much younger than us.

I'll still watch it just to see where they take Trek way into the future. I'll grudge watch it until I can't anymore. But I made it through Discovery so I'm hopeful I can do the same with Academy.

Since they are open to making movies now I am kinda hoping to see a movie that features Scott Bakula return as Archer. It would turn into a spy drama where he runs into Trip Tucker (Connor Trinneer) as he is fleeing after having been burned by Section 31 after disobeying orders on how to deal with some sort of incoming threat.

They wind up on the refit NX-01 that we never got to see because of those rat bastards at UPN:

https://i.imgur.com/GadHlS1.png



/you may or may not know that in the book series that followed it was found that Section 31 had snagged Trip right before he "was killed" and he began working for them instead. This would follow that storyline.

Frazod 07-30-2024 06:56 PM

I loathe Tilly. I basically hate everything about Discovery except for the parts that featured Pike and Spock. Once they were gone, so was I. I lasted about five minutes into season 3 and never watched another second of it.

SNW may have it's lame/awkward moments, but overall I love it. Hard to believe it originated where it did, like a phoenix rising from a pile of shit instead of flies.

4th and Long 07-30-2024 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17608415)
Since they are open to making movies now I am kinda hoping to see a movie that features Scott Bakula return as Archer.

Not happening. Have you seen Bakula lately?

https://www.etonline.com/sites/defau...jpg?h=d1cb525d

They would have to CGI the hell out of his face.

Mephistopheles Janx 07-30-2024 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 17608509)
Not happening. Have you seen Bakula lately?

https://www.etonline.com/sites/defau...jpg?h=d1cb525d

They would have to CGI the hell out of his face.

The man is younger than Jonathan Frakes who was all over Picard S3 and definitely younger that Stewart. Give him 8 months and an 12 month supply of HGH and he would be ready to rock.

Why would they need to CGI his face? He can be 69 years old and still doing Starfleet shit. This movie would be set post Romulan war and the man went through hell during that time. It aged him hard.

/edit... I would also be happy to see him cameo in SNW. I know that in book cannon he died in 2245 but that number could be stretched a bit to take him onto the bridge of the NCC-1701 Enterprise. He would be, roughly, 149 years old which isn't out of the realm of possibility for humans in the future. If McCoy lived to 137 it seems reasonable that someone who would receive the level of medical care that Archer would could make it to 149.

Jamie 07-30-2024 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17608369)
I originally booed the casting from Discovery but in light of...

I'll take it and it is a YAY from me. We knew Tilly was gonna be there. That was never in doubt as they set it up at one of the ongoing end scenes of Discovery. I think that she, apart from Burnham, could actually pull off being the orientation/welcome to Star Fleet - 1st years teacher role. It isn't like we really got to see a whole lot of what Tilly could be due to the fact that Burnham ate 80% of the dialogue on the show whether it be her speaking or other characters speaking about her.

Tig Notaro as Jett Reno is a HUGE addition for me. I would 100% watch the Reno/Stammets Power Hour if it were ever to be made. Reno was a highlight in the train wreck that was Discovery. Tig is perfect for the role of Reno.

Yeah, in terms of characters to continue they certainly could have done worse. But personally I'd rather lop Discovery off the Star Trek tree like a diseased limb and pretend it never happened. So ties to Discovery plus Kurtzman as co-showrunner are two huge strikes against it for me.

Quote:

Odid was a nice break from the typical Starfleet Admiral. I don't know if you will understand what I mean, Lower Decks does a really good job of exaggerating it, but an air of massive overconfidence, bravado, and pomposity that they tend to speak with. They tended to come off as take charge but more often than not were actually dumb, incompetent, or just Badmirals (if you didn't know it... yes, that is a term). Like... anytime I saw an Admiral show up in any of the older Trek series I was always waiting to see what member of the crew they were gonna **** over that time.

Hell... that was a trope that not even the greatness of Picard S3 was able to pull off (Shelby).
No, I know what you mean. It's hard to think of an Admiral who wasn't a prick or up to some shit. Maybe Admiral Ross from DS9, but even he ended up being complicit with Section 31.

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 17608509)
Not happening. Have you seen Bakula lately?

https://www.etonline.com/sites/defau...jpg?h=d1cb525d

They would have to CGI the hell out of his face.

Looks like he could pull off 147 year old Archer on SNW. Star Trek 09 did establish he's still alive around that timeframe (in JJ-verse at least). :shrug:

Mephistopheles Janx 07-30-2024 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 17608565)
Yeah, in terms of characters to continue they certainly could have done worse. But personally I'd rather lop Discovery off the Star Trek tree like a diseased limb and pretend it never happened. So ties to Discovery plus Kurtzman as co-showrunner are two huge strikes against it for me.



No, I know what you mean. It's hard to think of an Admiral who wasn't a prick or up to some shit. Maybe Admiral Ross from DS9, but even he ended up being complicit with Section 31.



Looks like he could pull off 147 year old Archer on SNW. Star Trek 09 did establish he's still alive around that timeframe (in JJ-verse at least). :shrug:

A SNW Episode called "The Search for Porthos" where Scotty picks up a signal and figures out that Porthos's transporter signal was caught up in a temporal space rift (or insert other technobable) and the crew reaches out to retired Admiral Archer to let him know that Scotty found the dog he transported away all those years ago.

Hell... Phlox could come along as Archer's personal physician.

Sopmething happens, the crew suffers some sort of malady that forces Archer to take command and Phlox to heal everyone. Archer saves the day, gets his dog back, then goes back home to live out his days feeding cheese to his best friend.

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God damn... I should be a writer. This is gold.


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