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Sassy Squatch 04-13-2023 03:16 PM

New Harry Potter series on HBO Max
 
Still in the early stages it seems but currently it's pencilled in to be a DECADE long project with 10+ seasons.

The Franchise 04-13-2023 03:23 PM

Getting in on the ground floor.

This is going to suck.

DJ's left nut 04-13-2023 03:33 PM

Wait - it's just a reboot? That's odd; if Rowling is involved, there's a TON of universe they could mine still.

That said, the movies kinda sucked. They were just weird and often unnecessarily so. And I will continue to insist that the actors were largely shite, especially Daniel Radcliffe.

HBO could actually do this pretty well, though I'm still a little puzzled as to why they're re-booting a property that's only like 15 years old instead of going with a sequel or spinoff. Hell, even prequels could be interesting given the amount of time that takes place between the Fantastic Beasts series and the energy they put into describing the previous rise/fall of Voldemort in the books.

Just a strange decision; seems entirely risk averse.

Sassy Squatch 04-13-2023 03:39 PM

Think Fantastic Beasts flopping as spectacularly as it has is why they're just going for the reboot. I'll gladly take a reboot provided they actually stay faithful to the original books, even if they do have to include all the silly retcons Rowling insists on since her stories were written when no one gave a shot.about inclusivity.

Sassy Squatch 04-13-2023 03:42 PM

Might be nice to see a Ron that hasn't had all of his positive personality traits stripped and given to Hermione.

tredadda 04-13-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16901115)
Wait - it's just a reboot? That's odd; if Rowling is involved, there's a TON of universe they could mine still.

That said, the movies kinda sucked. They were just weird and often unnecessarily so. And I will continue to insist that the actors were largely shite, especially Daniel Radcliffe.

HBO could actually do this pretty well, though I'm still a little puzzled as to why they're re-booting a property that's only like 15 years old instead of going with a sequel or spinoff. Hell, even prequels could be interesting given the amount of time that takes place between the Fantastic Beasts series and the energy they put into describing the previous rise/fall of Voldemort in the books.

Just a strange decision; seems entirely risk averse.

While she should beyond a shadow of a doubt, zero chance they take her input. She upset the mob by having "controversial" viewpoints as it was not in line with the hive mob. Doubt Warner Brothers will want to deal with that.

I am curious though, do they have to get the blessing of J.K. to make it as it is her IP or has that passed? If it still is hers then I can see them just going reboot as that stuff is already out. If she doesn't then the sky is the limit, sorta how Star Wars has it's own canon and material well beyond what Lucas ever dreamed of.

Sassy Squatch 04-13-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16901264)
While she should beyond a shadow of a doubt, zero chance they take her input. She upset the mob by having "controversial" viewpoints as it was not in line with the hive mob. Doubt Warner Brothers will want to deal with that.

I am curious though, do they have to get the blessing of J.K. to make it as it is her IP or has that passed? If it still is hers then I can see them just going reboot as that stuff is already out. If she doesn't then the sky is the limit, sorta how Star Wars has it's own canon and material well beyond what Lucas ever dreamed of.

No, she's still heavily involved in this. They tried to buy her out but her demands were so unrealistic they basically equated to she's not interested in giving up control. And her involvement is pretty overblown as far as it being negative. The game that recently released did huge numbers and those two Fantastic Beasts movies that flopped did so because they were absolutely trash.

Sassy Squatch 04-13-2023 05:30 PM

It really is ****ing bizarre just how much time she has spent retconning the story to have more representation yet she has no problem broadcasting how much of a transphobe she is on the reg.

staylor26 04-13-2023 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16901298)
It really is ****ing bizarre just how much time she has spent retconning the story to have more representation yet she has no problem broadcasting how much of a transphobe she is on the reg.

:rolleyes:

staylor26 04-13-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16901264)
While she should beyond a shadow of a doubt, zero chance they take her input. She upset the mob by having "controversial" viewpoints as it was not in line with the hive mob. Doubt Warner Brothers will want to deal with that.

I am curious though, do they have to get the blessing of J.K. to make it as it is her IP or has that passed? If it still is hers then I can see them just going reboot as that stuff is already out. If she doesn't then the sky is the limit, sorta how Star Wars has it's own canon and material well beyond what Lucas ever dreamed of.

Hogwarts Legacy proved that when you make a great product and ignore the nut jobs on Twitter (and other social media platforms), they have no impact.

KC_Connection 04-13-2023 10:03 PM

If they did this well, there's really no reason why this couldn't be better than most of those movies. I'd tune in.

Sassy Squatch 04-14-2023 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16901512)
:rolleyes:

LMAO Come on, bro. I know she's more of an extreme feminist than an actual transphobe, but regardless it's just strange in a business sense to continue to be so public about that with all the backlash.

BigBeauford 04-14-2023 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16901610)
LMAO Come on, bro. I know she's more of an extreme feminist than an actual transphobe, but regardless it's just strange in a business sense to continue to be so public about that with all the backlash.

As someone who has an athletically inclined daughter, JK, pop off sis.

tredadda 04-14-2023 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16901291)
No, she's still heavily involved in this. They tried to buy her out but her demands were so unrealistic they basically equated to she's not interested in giving up control. And her involvement is pretty overblown as far as it being negative. The game that recently released did huge numbers and those two Fantastic Beasts movies that flopped did so because they were absolutely trash.

That is good to know and I can't say that I blame her for not wanting to give up control. This means any new material that comes out is from her and not fan fiction.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16901264)
While she should beyond a shadow of a doubt, zero chance they take her input. She upset the mob by having "controversial" viewpoints as it was not in line with the hive mob. Doubt Warner Brothers will want to deal with that.

I am curious though, do they have to get the blessing of J.K. to make it as it is her IP or has that passed? If it still is hers then I can see them just going reboot as that stuff is already out. If she doesn't then the sky is the limit, sorta how Star Wars has it's own canon and material well beyond what Lucas ever dreamed of.

She has final editorial approval of all 'world of wizarding' projects, IMO.

lawrenceRaider 04-14-2023 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16901291)
No, she's still heavily involved in this. They tried to buy her out but her demands were so unrealistic they basically equated to she's not interested in giving up control. And her involvement is pretty overblown as far as it being negative. The game that recently released did huge numbers and those two Fantastic Beasts movies that flopped did so because they were absolutely trash.

The third movie in the Fantastic Beasts series was actually quite good. Shockingly so. Perhaps due to my extremely low expectations.

Sassy Squatch 04-14-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16901836)
That is good to know and I can't say that I blame her for not wanting to give up control. This means any new material that comes out is from her and not fan fiction.

That cursed child abomination has her name on it and it's quite possibly one of the worst pieces of fiction I've ever read when you take everything into context.

staylor26 04-14-2023 12:20 PM

All I know is, HBO has my full confidence. They rarely miss.

007 04-14-2023 02:10 PM

New Harry Potter series on HBO Max
 
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16902296)
All I know is, HBO has my full confidence. They rarely miss.


I'm sure they will sex it up in season seven or eight.

That's the only thing that irritates me about most HBO shows. Great story and production but they have to get the banging in there every time.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16902023)
The third movie in the Fantastic Beasts series was actually quite good. Shockingly so. Perhaps due to my extremely low expectations.

Mads Mikkelson was an awesome Grindelwald; much more to my mind's eye version of the character.

He made the movie. And really, the first one wasn't half bad. The 2nd one really took some starch out of the series and killed the enthusiasm for a surprisingly strong 3rd installment.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16902276)
That cursed child abomination has her name on it and it's quite possibly one of the worst pieces of fiction I've ever read when you take everything into context.

Did they ever make that into a book? I think you could get the written script somewhere but a script isn't a book; there's just a ton left out (or added in) when you have to make a version that's spoken aloud.

It's essentially the worst of all worlds - the lack of visuals that comes from books with the lack of context/internal monologue that comes from movies.

lawrenceRaider 04-14-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16902550)
Mads Mikkelson was an awesome Grindelwald; much more to my mind's eye version of the character.

He made the movie. And really, the first one wasn't half bad. The 2nd one really took some starch out of the series and killed the enthusiasm for a surprisingly strong 3rd installment.

I've never been able to actually watch all of the 2nd one. And yeah, the first one wasn't terrible, just tainted by the 2nd.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16902558)
I've never been able to actually watch all of the 2nd one. And yeah, the first one wasn't terrible, just tainted by the 2nd.

I didn't finish it either.

And I really like Jude Law; figured he'd be an awesome Dumbledore. And really I do think he was pretty decent.

It was just a bad movie.

RustShack 04-16-2023 02:38 PM

Seems weird do redo it so soon. But I think after GoT it makes sense to do books like this as a series instead. I’ll definitely give it a shot and am interested to see how it is. They will definitely be able to touch on a lot more material this way. It’s going to be weird with all new cast, but obviously the characters are too old to go back to year one at Hogwarts… not to mention probably burnt out and too expensive now.

I thought it was going to be seven seasons? One season per book?

BleedingRed 04-17-2023 03:49 PM

Wish they would just go back to do Tom Riddle climb into voldemort

RustShack 04-17-2023 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16905750)
Wish they would just go back to do Tom Riddle climb into voldemort

It is possible some stuff like this is added during the seasons. If it takes off quick more spin offs could happen before the shows over too.

DJ's left nut 04-18-2023 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16905750)
Wish they would just go back to do Tom Riddle climb into voldemort

Right. And the first Wizarding War.

A prequel between the FB and HP series just seems like a perfect answer. And Dumbledore could be such a great character. You can see his rise to prominence and can find out how he gets the elderwand and the resurrection stone.

Hell, you can find out if he was really all that great a wizard or if that elderwand just does some serious work for him.

There's a LOT to dig into here and it seems odd to throw all this money and time at a series that's already mostly fleshed out either in movie or book form.


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