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Prison Bitch 05-12-2023 04:55 PM

RIP Don Denkinger
 
One of the greatest American heroes of all time. You will be missed big fella.




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Former American League umpire Don Denkinger, whose 30-year career in the AL spanned from 1969 through 1998, has died age 86

https://www.closecallsports.com/2023...es-at.html?m=1

ToxSocks 05-12-2023 04:55 PM

RIP Old person i've never heard of.

In58men 05-12-2023 04:59 PM

Who?

Rain Man 05-12-2023 04:59 PM

He's out!

DJ's left nut 05-12-2023 05:00 PM

Only about 38 years too late...

Why Not? 05-12-2023 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16943833)
RIP Old person i've never heard of.

Seriously?

Bearcat 05-12-2023 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16943838)
He's out!

Well, this time....

KCUnited 05-12-2023 05:03 PM

Ring

Of

Honor

ToxSocks 05-12-2023 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16943841)
Seriously?

Dead serious.

jerryaldini 05-12-2023 05:04 PM

He always called it the way he saw it. RIP big Don.

Prison Bitch 05-12-2023 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16943833)
RIP Old person i've never heard of.

He’s one of the most influentls people of the 20th Century

Rams Fan 05-12-2023 05:07 PM

He needs a statue right next to the George Brett statue.

RIP

DJJasonp 05-12-2023 05:09 PM

cardinal fans across the country rejoice.

2 words: Jack Clark (eat s**t)

KCUnited 05-12-2023 05:10 PM

Jeff Triplette's godfather

KCUnited 05-12-2023 05:12 PM

outstanding citizened STL harder than Stan Kroenke

wazu 05-12-2023 05:28 PM

We would’ve won anyway, but thanks Don! Rest in peace.

Otter 05-12-2023 05:28 PM

Are we considering an RIP sub forum yet? Or at least limiting them to romper unless somehow affiliated with KC the forum or the Chiefs?

PHOG 05-12-2023 05:31 PM

Is he in the Hall of Fame? If not, he should be.

Prison Bitch 05-12-2023 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 16943875)
Are we considering an RIP sub forum yet? Or at least limiting them to romper unless somehow affiliated with KC the forum or the Chiefs?

He is affiliated with KC, you doofus

Now scram

Spott 05-12-2023 05:33 PM

All these years later and St Louis can still suck it.

Why Not? 05-12-2023 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16943845)
Dead serious.

One of the MVPs of the 1985 WS.

DJJasonp 05-12-2023 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 16943884)
One of the MVPs of the 1985 WS.


Along with jack clark

Mike in SW-MO 05-12-2023 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16943838)
He's out!

SAFE!

Rainbarrel 05-12-2023 05:48 PM

He's dead to me now

Mike in SW-MO 05-12-2023 05:53 PM

6th game 1985 World Series.

alpha_omega 05-12-2023 05:55 PM

RIP

Suck it Cards.

Pablo 05-12-2023 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16943881)
All these years later and St Louis can still suck it.

It's just the truth.

**** all things STL

BigRedChief 05-12-2023 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16943833)
RIP Old person i've never heard of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16943837)
Who?

worse Umpire ever.

wazu 05-12-2023 06:23 PM

Just rewatched with my kids. So much awesome.

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BigRedChief 05-12-2023 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 16943908)
RIP

Suck it Cards.

That’s ancient history. You guys got another WS, we got 2 since then. Move on geeezzz.:shake:

CaliforniaChief 05-12-2023 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16943927)
worse Umpire ever.

Angel Hernandez would like to enter the chat.

New World Order 05-12-2023 06:46 PM

A great man

May he rip

George Liquor 05-12-2023 06:47 PM

My dad went to Game 6 of the 1985 World Series.

I have a program, ticket stub, parking pass and beer cup from the game.

I told my dad when he gave it to me i was going to burn it. :)

Bearcat 05-12-2023 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16943930)
Just rewatched with my kids. So much awesome.

RIP Cards WS chances. /dude who got tagged out at 3rd

FlaChief58 05-12-2023 07:16 PM

This is why I'm not an umpire

alpha_omega 05-12-2023 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 16943881)
All these years later and St Louis can still suck it.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16943912)
**** all things STL

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16943931)
…Move on geeezzz.:shake:

Never.

Bearcat 05-12-2023 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 16943965)
This is why I'm not an umpire

Pretty sure other people die, too.

KCUnited 05-12-2023 08:12 PM

Yet Gene Steratore lives

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-12-2023 08:20 PM

He was from Iowa and lived in Des Moines... and **** the Cards, they could have won game 7 but got crushed 11-0 and then broke toilets... RIP Don...

Ocotillo 05-12-2023 08:27 PM

Denkinger’s nightmare was only beginning. The call that had haunted his consciousness all inning now rushed to the forefront. As he approached the umpires’ dressing room, he spotted Peter Ueberroth, baseball’s commissioner, waiting at the door. He hoped for vindication.

“Did I get it right?” Denkinger asked.

Ueberroth shook his head. “No.”

Denkinger stopped dead in his tracks, his world seemingly collapsing around him. Ueberroth suggested he offer an interview to one writer and one TV reporter. Denkinger agreed. But first he needed 10 minutes—alone—to sort himself out.


EPodolak 05-12-2023 08:56 PM

I miss baseball.

New World Order 05-12-2023 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EPodolak (Post 16944035)
I miss baseball.

I miss the roid era.

big nasty kcnut 05-12-2023 09:17 PM

A great man made the right call he was safe. RIP

JohnnyV13 05-12-2023 11:11 PM

Don Denkinger did blow the Jorge Orta call at first base.

HOWEVER, the Cardinals also showed they were a weak-minded team that didn't deserve a title. The Cardinals had EVERY chance to still win the game. The blown call with Orta only put the leadoff runner at first, with the Royals still down by one run. Instead of bearing down under pressure, the Cardinals melted down as a TEAM.

After Ortas 'hit,' Card's first baseman Jack Clark dropped what should have been a pop foul out. With another chance, Steve Balboni singled. Then Darrell Porter muffed a pitch. THEN the Cardinals closer Todd Worrell gave up a single that scored two runs for the Royals win.

Oh yeah, Cards right fielder Andy Van Slyke still had a chance to throw out the runner at the plate on a shallow bloop hit and didn't make the throw.

Oh...and if Orta had been called out, instead of TWO runs scoring for a walkoff win, the Royals would have tied the game.

SO, if DEnkinger didnt blow the call, it wouldnt have been a Cardinals win. It would have been a tie game.


The Cardinals showed they werent championship material bc they were still mentally in the tank for game seven and lost 11-0, when they still had a chance to win a World Series.

But, they were a beaten club before the first pitch of game 7 because they couldn't get over game 6.

LOSERS. And any Cardinals fan the whines about it is as unworhty as the loser team they rooted for if they blame Don Denkinger.


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carcosa 05-12-2023 11:25 PM

Favorite thing about him is he never missed a single call. 100% accuracy rate

srvy 05-12-2023 11:39 PM

They say Denk had the best vision of any ump in baseball. He had 20/20 vision till his death.

redfan 05-13-2023 06:26 AM

"Looks like he's out."
"From that angle, let's take a look from this one. Oh, yes."
"Foot right on top of the bag..."
"I don't think there's any doubt about it."


Hmmm, I think Don might've missed one there.
So, they don't go back and change the record books, do they?
They don't? :D
Cool.

POND_OF_RED 05-13-2023 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16943931)
That’s ancient history. You guys got another WS, we got 2 since then. Move on geeezzz.:shake:

The Cubs and Royals have more recent ones so who is really clinging to ancient history here?

Don was infamous for exposing Cardinals fans as the true pieces of reeruned shit that they were. He received more death threats than Whitey Herzog who coached his team to an 11-0 ass whooping and was ejected in the process of the deciding game in the series. Yet, Don got more death threats.

Stay classy Cards fans…

ChiTown 05-13-2023 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16944005)
Pretty sure other people die, too.

Great! Now I have something else I have to worry about. Thanks a lot!:mad:

oldandslow 05-13-2023 07:32 AM

Denkinger made one of the worst calls in World Series history.

He was the embodiment of why instant replay was instituted.

Having said that, great ball clubs have to overcome bad calls. The Royals won that World Series, not because of Denkinger, but because they imploded in reaction to him.

I love the Cards. But I hate the excuses. Catch the ball, Jack, and this isn't even a discussion.

Or how about showing up for game seven, Andujar. Geez.

I could go on. Fact is Congrats KC. You won a WS.

But the one in 15 was cooler :evil:

jettio 05-13-2023 08:10 AM

IMO, Denkinger missed the call because the toss from Jack Clark to Worrell was awkwardly high and Worrell having to reach for it caused Denkinger to watch the catch instead of watching foot on bag and after seeing catch and then looking for foot on bag, Orta had touched bag by then.

If Jack Clark had not made such a clumsy ass toss to Worrell, Denkinger would have gotten it right.

Prison Bitch 05-13-2023 11:10 AM

Orta was thrown out at 3B anyway on a failed sac bunt.

The only out The Loo recorded that inning

Pablo 05-13-2023 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 16944157)
The Cubs and Royals have more recent ones so who is really clinging to ancient history here?

Don was infamous for exposing Cardinals fans as the true pieces of reeruned shit that they were. He received more death threats than Whitey Herzog who coached his team to an 11-0 ass whooping and was ejected in the process of the deciding game in the series. Yet, Don got more death threats.

Stay classy Cards fans…

That's just BFIB (Biggest bundle of stickss In Baseball) stuff

George Liquor 05-13-2023 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16944336)
That's just BFIB (Biggest bundle of stickss In Baseball) stuff

Bit rude tbh

Pablo 05-13-2023 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16944340)
Bit rude tbh

Can’t help the hate in my heart bud

George Liquor 05-13-2023 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16944347)
Can’t help the hate in my heart bud

I'll allow it

Chiefshrink 05-13-2023 02:03 PM

Thanks for the "HUGE momentum change" in that 85 WS Don !!!

Prison Bitch 05-13-2023 02:19 PM

He should be on a stamp

PunkinDrublic 05-13-2023 02:34 PM

His name will live on because every time I visit a St.Louis Starbucks I’m giving the barista my order as Don Denkinger and so should every Royals fan.

DanT 05-13-2023 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jettio (Post 16944203)
IMO, Denkinger missed the call because the toss from Jack Clark to Worrell was awkwardly high and Worrell having to reach for it caused Denkinger to watch the catch instead of watching foot on bag and after seeing catch and then looking for foot on bag, Orta had touched bag by then.

If Jack Clark had not made such a clumsy ass toss to Worrell, Denkinger would have gotten it right.

I agree. Denkinger realized he wouldn't be able to listen for the ball hitting the glove on that play, with the crowd noise and the soft throw being off. If the ump can rely on hearing the ball arriving to the glove, he can focus more of his vision on the baserunner's foot.

Here's a video of the play
https://youtu.be/vyt1xEvqqow

Here's a New York Times article about missed calls at first.
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/s...hear-them.html

WilliamTheIrish 05-13-2023 04:07 PM

What an October that was.

Attended game 3 of the ALCS where Brett took the game over with 2HR’s and probably the best defensive play I’ve ever seen live (moose’s foul ball catch in game 3 vs the Os in 14 was epic also).
Damaso Garcia had doubled and moved to 3rd when Lonnie Smith butchered the play in LF.

Lloyd Mosbey hot a shot over the bag at 3rd, Brett went into foul territory, backhanded the ball and threw over Garcia’s shoulder to Sundberg at the plate to nail him. Just an incredible play.

Old and slow is correct. The Cardinals simply laid down in game 7. Quit, as Bill James stated it in the 1986 baseball abstract. Just blistered the entire Cardinal roster. Pointed out batting averages of .067, .133, .089.

Lit them up like a leg lamp on Christmas Eve.

WilliamTheIrish 05-13-2023 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16944540)
He should be on a stamp

OMG! That’s beautiful.

DanT 05-13-2023 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16944610)
What an October that was.

Attended game 3 of the ALCS where Brett took the game over with 2HR’s and probably the best defensive play I’ve ever seen live (moose’s foul ball catch in game 3 vs the Os in 14 was epic also).
Damaso Garcia had doubled and moved to 3rd when Lonnie Smith butchered the play in LF.

Lloyd Mosbey hot a shot over the bag at 3rd, Brett went into foul territory, backhanded the ball and threw over Garcia’s shoulder to Sundberg at the plate to nail him. Just an incredible play.

Old and slow is correct. The Cardinals simply laid down in game 7. Quit, as Bill James stated it in the 1986 baseball abstract. Just blistered the entire Cardinal roster. Pointed out batting averages of .067, .133, .089.

Lit them up like a leg lamp on Christmas Eve.

That was an incredible game, which is described here (https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/octo...tts-best-game/). I got to work all of the 1985 postseason games as a food vendor. That was a very memorable postseason, and Brett's dominant game 3 was crucial, as we already down 0-2 in that ALCs.

WilliamTheIrish 05-13-2023 04:22 PM

Good to see you, DanT.

WilliamTheIrish 05-13-2023 04:26 PM

One of my other great memories from that game, was Brett handing the ball to Howser after the final out of the game. It was Dick Howser’s first playoff win. Had lost 8 or 9 straight.

ChiefaRoo 05-13-2023 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 16944176)
Denkinger made one of the worst calls in World Series history.

He was the embodiment of why instant replay was instituted.

Having said that, great ball clubs have to overcome bad calls. The Royals won that World Series, not because of Denkinger, but because they imploded in reaction to him.

I love the Cards. But I hate the excuses. Catch the ball, Jack, and this isn't even a discussion.

Or how about showing up for game seven, Andujar. Geez.

I could go on. Fact is Congrats KC. You won a WS.

But the one in 15 was cooler :evil:


This is true. The Cards imploded. Andy Van Slyke and Ozzie Smith came out as a gay couple and did appearances on RuPauls show for years. Auggie Busch said F this and sold Bud to Euro trash and Bud Light came out as Trans. All because of Denkingers call. Butterfly effect.

seclark 05-13-2023 05:07 PM

The call was the call.
Then the cards melted big time
Then the card fans melted big time and imo pretty much ruined denkingers life
That’s baseball, I’m ashamed to say.
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ARROW2 05-13-2023 05:51 PM

I remember it well. Give him a statue. The game 7 was epic, I was down in the Plaza at some club that is probably not even open anymore. LOL. It was pandemonium down there, high fiving with strangers in cars, etc.

Graystoke 05-13-2023 06:10 PM

I knew I had heard of him. He is from my town, Cedar Falls Iowa.
RIP community member.

BlackHelicopters 05-14-2023 06:45 PM

If you address a letter to Don Denkinger, Iowa, he will get it.

Rain Man 05-14-2023 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graystoke (Post 16944702)
I knew I had heard of him. He is from my town, Cedar Falls Iowa.
RIP community member.

If Cedar Falls' housing market is like New York's, you should quickly inquire about his apartment.

ChiefsCountry 05-14-2023 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 16944622)
One of my other great memories from that game, was Brett handing the ball to Howser after the final out of the game. It was Dick Howser’s first playoff win. Had lost 8 or 9 straight.

Howser was 0-11 in the playoffs up until Game 3 of 1985 ALCS. 0-8 with the Royals, 0-3 with the Yankees which was the 1980 ALCS of course.

rico 05-14-2023 09:16 PM

One of my oldest memories… my dad was so pissed.

Up yours, Denkinger.

wazu 05-14-2023 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 16944938)
If you address a letter to Don Denkinger, Iowa, he will get it.

Kinda doubt it now.

redfan 05-15-2023 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16944311)
Orta was thrown out at 3B anyway on a failed sac bunt.

The only out The Loo recorded that inning

All of this. Lol, get rekt, redbird fans.

ChiTown 05-15-2023 08:21 AM

Well, of course it was a horrible call. Guess what? There were so many opps for the Cards to still close and win that game, which they couldn't do, plus an entire game 7 that they should have shown up for but didn't. F 'em :evil:

:Royals::Royals::Royals:

seclark 05-15-2023 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16945249)
Well, of course it was a horrible call. Guess what? There were so many opps for the Cards to still close and win that game, which they couldn't do, plus an entire game 7 that they should have shown up for but didn't. F 'em :evil:

:Royals::Royals::Royals:

Pretty much this
And I’m a cardinals fan, but in sports, **** the loser.
Especially when they melt
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