Carolina really traded it all for this
 

I can’t believe how tiny this guy is. At least Russell Wilson had a thick body frame. Bryce is short and lanky.

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He's going to get broken in half

Yikes.

Does he represent the Lollipop Guild?
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There's no way that's real. He's not that big.

Man, that picture is pretty damning.

****ing. Duh.

When all the 'Bryce Young at 1.1' stuff started I said "no way, has to be a smokescreen because that's just too dumb to actually happen"

There's just no way in hell this kid succeeds. That's a high schooler playing with the biggest, fastest dudes in the world trying to injure him. It's unreal that the Panthers thought this would end well.

Just because your wife pretends that size doesn't matter doesn't mean that NFL teams can. That kid is just too damn small.

Pretends is the key word ROFL

LOL Dead man walking.

They're going to regret not taking Stroud. Shit...I would have taken Richardson over Young.

Brutal comments: "That first clip of him taking a snap literally looked like a make a wish thing"

Sadly I don't think Young or Stroud end up being very good, Young will show flashes of greatness but will miss games consistently. Stroud I think ends up having a Alex Smith/Jimmy G type of career where he's just a game manager.

Richardson to me is the only one that has any type of high end upside but he's just so very raw.

They played it safe and it’s going to get them fired. They have Frank Reich and Jim Caldwell on staff. Develop Richardson for awhile and ease him in.

Unfortunately I think the Colts are gonna be the big winners here. Richardson has the perfect coach for his ability.

There have been so many guys like Richardson who just weren't good though...it's 50/50

Yup. At a point, all the athleticism in the world is just building on a foundation of sand if your guy can't repeat his mechanics or read a defense.

Unless, I guess, you're willing to sell out and build a Lamar Jackson-esque offense that simply covers over every problem the guy has as a passer. And even a Lamar Jackson offense requires one hell of a defense to work.

The Ravens 'blueprint' is just so damn hard to pull off. It isn't the approach I'd take.

I think Stroud was ultimately the QB to take from this draft and essentially every other team at the top of the draft should've been happy to trade back/out and try again next season. Afterall, pretty much every one of them is STILL going to suck next season and I think that QB crop looks a hell of a lot better.

LMAO why couldn't he have gone to an AFC team for us to destroy

Houstons move is baffling Arizona probably has 2 top 5 picks next year...

But how many of those guys had a coach like Steichen? Lol at his resume it’s quite impressive. Did a good job as QB coach with Rivers from 2016-19 before he got old, did a grey at job with Herbert as OC, did a great job with Hurts as OC.

I think situation matters so much. Richardson probably bombs if he goes to Houston to be coached by Bob Slowik.

Yeah, giving up next years 1st was just completely insane.

I mean, Arizona could potentially end up with Caleb Williams AND Marvin Harrison Jr.

No earthly idea how they'd get out from under Kyler Murray at that point, but somebody with more cap space than they can reasonable torch will likely be interested...

lmao

https://thedraftnetwork.com/wp-conte...526_lowres.jpg

If Ridder bombs I could see Atlanta being like well we'll give you something for him.

Detroit (Hooker being the wild card)
Rams (Stafford probably circling the drain; lots of flash for LA)
Vegas (Grapes blows)
Minnesota (Cousins is a pending UFA)
Washington (Because Washington)

There are some deals that could happen. And the Cards would end up eating some shit in the process. Maybe the shot to his ego will help Murray mature? Or is this gonna be a supercharged version of the Baker Mayfield mess where he wanted to leave, Cleveland wanted him gone but nobody wanted to acquire him.

LMAO

Looks like a Madden random draft pick

Been a long time since I've seen that gif DJ. My God I'm in tears.

Bryce is gonna ball. He’s a qb. What’s the concern with injury? Qbs don’t get hit anymore. Just be smart and he will be fine. He’s got low end Pat mahomes ability. Don’t sleep on Bryce.

He will have the same problem Tater and Kyler have: can't throw over the middle cause they can't see over the line. Tater and Kyler at least could be a threat scrambling, Bryce doesn't have that athletic ability.

People that wanna act like height is irrelevant on intermediate throws just don't understand how leverage works.

Murray's balls over the middle are going to have less snap on them because he's gotta go up and over the line with them. He has to lob balls in there or hope a clear lane opens between his lineman. Whereas a QB that's 4-5 inches taller can come downhill with the throw and drive the ball into windows that are small to begin with and closing incredibly quickly.

I mean folks are welcome to try to argue that he has smarts that will overcome these physical barriers, but to try to act as though the barriers just don't exist is folly. His height is absolutely a problem and his build will be an even bigger one should he ever get the idea that operating outside of the pocket is a good idea.

Which is why the loss of Hopkins is going to be straight catastroptic for Kyler.

His splits with/without Hopkins are absolutely absurd.

As are Watson's.

Both just chucked 50/50 balls to Hopkins who comes down with it more often than not.

Cleveland ****ed up so bad the NFL should force a change in ownership.

Excellent point.

However I disagree in the change in ownership business.

The NFL should fine Watson for ****ing everything. Take that money give it to charity.

But no - don't bail those ****s out. Let these mother****ing twat waffles lay in the bed they made for themselves. In fact the NFL should start trolling these jackass cock gobblins. ****ing primetime games for these bitches. Have the draft there. So then the whole world can hear about the Watson deal and why they don't have any draft capital despite getting obliterated in the regular season and wasting the career of Myles Garrett.

If you're worried about the fans, **** give them ANOTHER franchise. ****ing do it. Let those pickle peekers be the Cleveland version of the Jets.

NFL should troll THE **** out of the Browns.

That's pretty angry for a Saturday morning. LMAO

Definitely not wrong, though.

ROFL

Fair.

But I'm good. It's raining!

Richardson is QB 1 in this class because he landed correctly.

LOL. It looks like the starting frame of a BLACKED video they just forgot to put the little white girl in his place.

WTF?

Mahomes isn't built like a WNBA point guard with a weak arm. There is zero similarity between the two.

Piper Perri had more of a chance to survive repeated poundings.

Who F'd up worse? Cleveland or Denver?

Yeah, it's a HUGE difference. Being able to see over vs. only being able to see between is going to impact everything. Almost have to call more rollouts.

Cleveland and it isn't even close.

Cleveland.

Russ is cringey as ****, but at least he's not a serial sexual assaulter that got paid a zillion dollars guaranteed.

I know lifelong Cleveland fans that have had to abandon the team they grew up loving because they can't root for the slimeball.

I can't imagine if that had been KC. I might have had to do the same.

Chiefs fans routinely packed Arrowhead with Tyreek Hill jerseys.

They’d have found a way to be fine with Deshaun Watson.

It's fine because Drew Brees!

Drew Brees might be the most accurate QB the NFL has ever seen. That's why he can play as a midget.

Yes, midgets can still be productive and good, but they're not going to be franchise top 5 guys.

Didn't you know that every 5'11'' righty that throws 91 is Greg Maddux?

Those whores WANTED to massage his asshole!

Easily Cleveland. They are far more married to Watson for the long haul than Denver is with Tater.

You're comparing Hill to Watson?

Consider it in real time.

For the first 2-3 years of his career, Hill had some pretty ominous possibilities in his background and they were worse than "hey, wanna give me a happy ending? Because this D won't suck itself..."

Yeah, they're pretty comparable scenarios. Now ultimately Hill ended up vindicated, but Chiefs fans were largely indifferent as to the possibility when Hill was making a name for himself here.

This team has been so starved for quality QB play that in a world where we never had Mahomes, the fans would've held their noses and found a way to root for Watson. And frankly, most Cleveland fans are doing precisely the same thing.

Except he was straight ass last year. That’s all the better. ROFL

Saw video of Carolina's OTAs and Bryce really looks like a little make a wish kid out there. Lots of the coaches were taller than him.

Question, maybe Bryce Young can wear some of those Robert DeNiro shoes?

Physically, you’re absolutely right. But his ability with the big play, scrambling, finding the open man while scrambling and his athleticism to make off platform throws reminds me of a low end mahomes. He will definitely have disadvantages from the pocket but his big play potential while scrambling is there. Here’s a reminder.

https://youtu.be/26MhpG2WyXU

Every fan base acts the same in these situations.

You have the small minority who actually bail. Most just plug their noses and stomach it.

How dare anyone disrespect this generational talent:

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4620323072...epic-small-cop

I'm trying to figure out how this dude is going to see over his NFL OL.

Nothings computing.

**** it. I’m rooting for the guy.

I don't think anybody here is actively rooting against him.

I'd imagine most are indifferent with a general lean toward being excited to laugh if it does work out.

I'll be actively rooting for him to succeed any time it doesn't hurt the Chiefs' interests just to shake things up. If Young ends up being a star, I'm wondering how small NFL QBs can go.

Lol, saw this video below (Time stamped), reminded me of this clip.

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Should've drafted CJ Stroud instead of the midget.

CJ Stroud is the 6th QB in NFL history to average 300 passing yards and throw no interceptions in the month of September

The guy looks as good as any rookie QB in recent memory

And he was SO obviously the best QB in the class.

I will never EVER understand what Carolina was thinking. If Young is there at your pick after Stroud and Richardson went off the board - oh sure, its a worthwhile gamble. But to trade UP and give up a massive haul (that's could very well turn into Caleb Williams because of how bad Young is)...it just blows my mind.

Already looking like one of the worst trades of the modern era. Might be able to argue it is once we get to the draft and see where their pick lies.

Imagine taking this guy over Stroud or Richardson. It never made any sense.

I'm pretty convinced 50% of NFL front offices could be replaced by somewhat knowledgeable fans and get better results, and I don't think that's an overstatement.

A lot of it comes, IMO, from a lack of pre-existing bias.

Just look at how hard these guys tried to make Young into the 'consensus pick' at the top of the draft:

https://catcrave.com/posts/bryce-you...olina-panthers

"Elite leadership, poise and improvisation..."

I mean that's STRAIGHT from the Tim Tebow "he's a winner" handbook. None of that speaks to, y'know, ability.

Moreover I just have no idea how any of those traits can have been demonstrated playing at Alabama where they just out-talented their opponents 90% of the time. How much 'poise and leadership' do you need to demonstrate when your defense breathes fire and you have 5 seconds to throw to guys with 4 yards of separation?

It's just so ridiculous. The Panthers convinced themselves 'he's a winner', threw the dart and then got to drawing a bullseye around it.

It's just dumb beyond words. And now Reich's out there saying "This is a 2-4 year process" as though torching the guys ENTIRE rookie contract is a solid scenario for them.

I think these GM's get scared off by what helmet these prospects wear. Mahomes was knocked bc of Texas Tech QB history, Josh Allen was knocked bc of going to Wyoming and Stroud was knocked bc of the failed Ohio State QB line.

Stroud was a big, accurate QB who had decent arm strength to go with a big enough body.

The Panthers did that stupid test about instincts or some bullshit and decided Young was the guy.

Needless to say that trade is getting people fired. Poles is gone in 2 months and Fitterer is likely out as soon as 2024.

They really ****ed this up.

I mean, I did pick Stroud over Young in the CP Mock :D

It's just bad football.

We'll probably never know the whole story as to the specifics of the decision, but we've all seen it. Talking yourself into Teblows like you menitoned. Or looking at him move around and beat a defender to make an off platform throw, and think that's the next Mahomes (See Trey Lance Zach Wilson etc.). Needing a guy to change the locker room (Tyson Jackson). Or whether it's just some one who sucks the penis like Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards walks in the room and says he wants a guy.

It's bad decisionmaking front to back.

What has Ryan Poles done to **** up? The Bears are currently sitting on almost 100 million in cap space for 2024 and are almost assuredly going to have two top 5 picks with by far the highest chance currently at #1 overall.

Having Jalen Carter fall into their laps only to dump him to the Eagles was egregiously stupid. That one he deserves a ton of criticism for.

Owners with more money than knowledge.

I mean the FIRST question you should ask a potential HC or GM is what his approach to the QB position is.

And man, if I get some schpiel about leadership, poise and improvisation before he wants to talk to me about repeating mechanics, throwing platforms, arm strength and reads - **** that.

Because there are two very clearly defined schools here. There's always going to be the Herm Edwards guys and then there will be the Andy Reid guys.

If you get someone that says "Hey, I'm going to find credible to right the ship and go with it until I find someone who {insert conversation about mechanics, platforms and arm strength} - cool. Perfect. That works. But goddamn do I not want someone that's going to tell me how my QB is going to be poised under pressure and a leader on the field before he gets to ANYTHING related to the guy's actual ability to play football.

Because that, my friend, is how The Right 53 happens. And I wouldn't with that shit on anyone - not even Jerry Jones.

It doesn't help that Reich looks like a total turd of a head coach.

Trading a first for Chase Claypool? Sticking with Fields over drafting Stroud? His HC doesn't look good at all.

That trade was the best thing they did, but it's also the worst. Stroud looks like a franchise QB and it's literally Poles job to get that right.

The 2 for Claypool was bad, I get the idea behind it but yea it sucked.

However if they get pick 1 and 2 it won't matter.

You sure about that? It is pretty funny laughing at the Faid. And I wish everything bad on the Cheating ****ing Donko Bitch****s.

Apparently they're looking for a #1 WR now, wouldn't be surprised if they ended up with Jeudy.

Said this a few weeks before the season started. Jury is still out, obviously, but word on the street is that they're close to a verdict.

Well if you're gonna roll with a backup quarterback on the belief that he's a franchise guy, what better way to do it than by pairing him with a WR3 you've convinced yourself is a WR1.

The panthers are a dumpster fire.