Class action lawsuit filed over Jackson County assessments
 

https://www.kctv5.com/2023/06/25/cla...y-assessments/

Politicans exempt from insane take hikes

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Legislation drawn to overturn insane tax hikes:

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Protest scheduled at Jackson County Courthouse:

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KC Town Hall scheduled July 15

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Mine went up 89 percent in one year.

Most states or citites have a rule where the max increase is a few percent or something? ****ing highway robbery by the county.

Ken McClain mentioned in the article is a big time lawyer who owns most of the Independence Square. He's a gorilla and will crush them.

LOL

I got 54 percent and appealed today.

**** this cash grab.

Good luck. For most the adjusted value is still below true value so good chance the appeal can backfire and become even more.

I just did a bunch of improvements so I am not taking the chance on appeal.

And **** Frank White. Makes Q look like a genius.

I'm not sure there's a better guy to have suing the city for Jackson County homeowners.

McClain is a straight killer. He's the guy who sued the NFL and won (over concussions). Jackson County better get its shit together, and quickly.

Yeah, same. House on the other side of the parkway (literally across the road) from us just sold in May for 110,000 less than the assessed value of our home, and the house at the end of that block sold for 140,000 less.

We were up 44 percent. Just nuts stuff.

Sounds like a sharp real estate investor, no doubt!

Same thing happened in Taney County (Branson). One of my friends building took a 300% increase and it was built 3 years ago. They said it was "undervalued" the whole time.

I'd appeal the shit out of that. No way a value can increase 54% that doesn't even have curbs.

Ran all the way up from 40,000 to 62,000!

Damn straight. Plus it was appraised two years ago for ****ing THOUSANDS of dollars less than they are saying.

**** these thieves.

126690

I don't even think we have any values that low in Platte County.

South of the river is just disaster territory.

it took 7 years for the property tax on this house to go up 30% and in one year it jumps 54%? communist bullshit

Can't wait to be a homeowner...

Sounds like Jackson County is in Illinois not MO.

still better than renting...for now

When you rent and they jack up the apt complex's tax value they just raise your rent to cover it anyhow.

Makes you wonder how many people just pay it, no matter how pissed they get.

Yeah, we'll see how things shake out. I've got the best and worst of both worlds right now - living in a paid-off RV but paying about $800/mo for a parking spot and utilities.

if you don't get pissed and do something about it, you'll keep being pissed until you can't

Im just paying it. Mine doubled but still only 25% of true value.

The problem is Jackson county is only doing the insane increase on low income, starter homes. Corporate rental homes barely went up. Expensive homes barely went up. Frank white and city leaders went down. The city again chose to attack elderly, minority owners. Most of which that are on fixed income and will be forced to sell. It is a land/house grab.

Hopefully the lawyer brings all of this in. Literally impossible to do that breakdown accidentally.

We are run by literal ****ing commies. ROFL

most places tax according to what they think it will sell for when it sells.
Yes, prices are on the rise everywhere and it has slowed. But in 2007 when the market crashed, my taxes did not really ever go down. Nominal, but not according to what the value should have been.

Now, it is out of control. Anything over 15% is a money grab.

It was just a matter of time after Lucas's taxes jumped 67% (https://www.kmbc.com/article/quinton...ocess/44322693) . It's OK to bend over the average schulb, but when you **** with the man ----

Ha you knew assessments in Chicago were coming when you’d start getting mailers from attorneys telling you how much you could save appealing with them

It’s a whole intentional system created to get everyone paid on your dollar

Assess high which creates an appeal process so the lawyers get their cut, then you “get” a 15% reduction after everyone gets paid and somehow feel like you won while everyone laughs their way to the bank with your money

Our government on every level along with all the enforcers in this country just abuse us with no recourse.

It's repulsive.

My granddad told me you never actually own real property even if it is paid for. Really never gave it much thought until I started paying property taxes.

Holy shit, that is nuts. I had the perception that the tourism in Branson would keep the property taxes lower, guess not.

house payments going way up

salaries are not

The problem is the appeal process is arbitrated by the very people that gain to benefit. It's a rigged game.

Zillow Home Value maxxed my home value estimate about 18 months ago in a big spike, and then it plummeted about 11 percent when interest rates went up. It recovered about half of that loss, and then last week it dropped three percent without warning. It popped up one percent this week, so now I'm about 9 percent off my peak. The peak was a big spike, though, so I'm still in good shape.

Few if any win the appeal

**** the government and property tax.

Jackson County voters voted for this. Re-elected a baseball player whos been nothing but corrupt and some piece of shit whos worried about a statue that 72% of voters votes to keep

Some people will pull the lever for anybody with a (D) next to their name. *cough* clay your gf def voted for this *cough*

My house taxes have went through the roof. No dems are anywhere near power in Florida. It’s not a partisan thing.

Oh I'm just ****ing with clay about his librul gf. I know everything is ****ed everywhere unless you're a person of importance(remember, businesses are people too in America).

That money for roads and schools and blah blah blah has to come from somewhere. And it definitely can't come from the real big money players in enormous corporate campuses or skyscrapers downtown or brand new apartment complexes. Those guys get all of the incentives. They are drivers of industry and have earned the right to skip out on their fair share!

It needs to come from you, citizen.

Nah, it’s on everyone.

We are not in starter home territory ourselves and my friends/family all over the metro (Lee’s Summit, North KC, South KC, all the central KC neighborhoods, even a friend who has a home in the Northeast) are seeing crazy things.

well look who is joining the revolution

The George Brett Statue?

Here's just the thing: I am looking at building a 100x50 steel building, heated floor, insulated, etc.

I live in the middle of nowhere. When I build this thing, I will get completely ass raped on taxes. I will not see an extra road grader pass (if I see one at all), or any infrastructure upgrades anywhere within 10 miles of my house.

Yet I will dump thousands per year into the system. That is completely ****ed in my opinion.

This is not true. The elderly are definitely feeling the pain...they have had depressed valuations for for a long time, and the valuation model is hitting them hard because every part of the city has seen so much investor renovations over the past 3 yrs that is pulling all properties up. The elderly invest very little in their homes, therefore they are getting pulled up way too high based on the renovated sale prices. The software they use does not have a check box for "elderly" or "minority".

Where are you getting the info that "Frank White and city leaders went down"?

Zillow is not at all accurate. They do better in homogeneous neighborhoods with tight ranges and similar floor plans, but can be wildly inaccurate in other areas....theyy do not know the details or conditions of your home, especially split levels or homes with finished lower levels

Franks actually went up like 7% and Don McCan sp? Went up 10%. So yeah theres increased but not nearly as much as alot of people. Why can't they just put a cap on the valuations?

Greed. They all need raises. Hell Q is probably looting the city on his way out.

Q already raised the salary for mayor and city council a few years ago lmao

They absolutely should have already, and I thought there was legislation on the table that will cap in the future...if not, there will be soon because of this. It's just common sense and the only responsible thing to do, but as we all know, Jackson Co. is incapable of acting with a shred of either.

i bet there's some real dirty shit going on right now...kc has always been a town with dirty politics

Yep, he has big plans and needs to start building that war chest

real easy to give tax breaks to your buddies around the city and get kickbacks

he's a ****ing commie midget

fight the power

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas City woman, angry about her property taxes, paying with nickels – <br><br>After a 135% increase in her property tax bill Cynthia Lockett will pay her bulging property tax bill,<br><br>But with 1,419 rolls of nickels that will weigh over 625 pounds.<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/x4MWpbScYX">https://t.co/x4MWpbScYX</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Today (@KC__Today) <a href="https://twitter.com/KC__Today/status/1201190814103298051?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Funny you should mention that, I was just with an elderly man last Friday who just got raped on his property taxes in Brookside, and it turns out his garndfather was the one that took down Tom Pendergast (Milligan?) in the 1930s

meanwhile

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UPDATE: Port KC board to consider issuing $36M bond for 108-unit, 12-story Crossroads apartment project next week; 18-year property tax abatement, 10 percent affordable units at 60 percent AMI.<br> <a href="https://t.co/kMj8rLr7uF">https://t.co/kMj8rLr7uF</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/cityscenekc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CitySceneKC</a></p>&mdash; Kevin Collison (@cityscenekc) <a href="https://twitter.com/cityscenekc/status/1639283308180766721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Same bullshit is going on in Omaha and the rest of Nebraska. I just moved to Fremont and within days there's a letter is in the mailbox from the assessor asking all kinds of questions...yeah **** you I ain't answering shit...

How do you expect Rhule to make 9.5 a year?

Please pay for our dumb ass downtown park. Royals baseball, catch the fever!

It’s a supply side issue.

Fewer new homes are being built due to labor and material shortages (and interest rate hikes). Rather than an expanding tax base, municipalities are jacking up rates for existing properties.

Same is going on in the personal property tax arena due to less cars/boats/etc. built.

https://www.ksdk.com/amp/article/mon...7-313282b6f89c

Is this some sort of admission? Are we now bound by law/morality to report this?

maybe if they'd stop paying for stupid shit like painting roads gay we wouldn't have this issue

While stupid the road painting has nothing to do with with this.

there are thousands of stupid things the government spends money on

money they piss away so now they have to jack up property tax at obscene, illegal rates

I have to admit, that was inartfully worded. :doh!:

I still pay an outrageous amount of property taxes compared to other states homeowners though. Maybe, the county should have something similar to California's prop 13?

The AVs aren't taking into account interest rates impacts on the housing market.

A FMV that's using sales from 9+ months ago is WAY out of date already. The cost of money has gone up a ton since then and it's reflecting in how much people will (or even CAN) pay for a home.

We were looking at upgrading for a few years but now I'm gonna hold onto that 2.25% mortgage like grim death and if need be I'll take out a HELOC for an addition or something.

I can't justify moving and tacking 5% onto my interest rate, even if I can afford more house than I presently have - it doesn't make a lick of financial sense.

And there are a lot of people like me out there.

Same story here. I've got a 3.5% rate and the wife and I are refusing to move until it goes back down.

Just do the math and it's obscene.

Let's say you're looking at a nice 2nd home - nothing extravagant but certainly a fairly nice place. You have a growing family or something so you're looking to get a little bigger than your 'starter' house. That's gonna be probably $500K for maybe 3,500-4,000 sq ft if you're in a neighborhood you want to be in.

And lets say you're even able to put 20% down because of equity in your first home.

A 400K loan at my 2.25% is gonna cost me about $150K in interest over 30 years. The 'cost' of the house is gonna be $650K when factoring in your down payment.

If you make it 7% the interest you'll pay on that home almost quadruples on a 30 year note. Your total interest paid will be $560K. That house suddenly costs you 1.05 million.

And what these assessors are trying to do is use home values and sales from that late COVID era when interest was still low but supply was ass (and the money printers were going brrrrrrrr) so home prices were skyrocketing.

When you start to mess with the math here, 'upgrading' homes is almost a complete non-starter unless you can somehow pay cash for it.

I cannot for the life of me understand how people bought houses in the 80s when rates were briefly at 20% before settling into the 'manageable' low teens.

But at the risk of this turning to politics, I still think this NEEDED to be done. Home prices had gotten exorbitant precisely because free money led to a runaway market. My folks built their house in the early 90s when the market was still feeling the pinch from the 80s rates and hadn't fully absorbed those early 90s drops into the 5-6% range that we're climbing back into now. And man, comparing what they paid to what we would for a home like that now - it's night and day. At a point, the market needed a correction.

But you can't go rat-****ing people on their property taxes in the middle of it...

I obliterated my right leg 2 days before the photographer was coming over to shoot our home that was going on the market in early '22

My first thoughts were 1) That looks really horrific, I hope they're able to save the leg and I should probably prepare myself mentally for the worst and 2) interest rate hikes

I texted my wife from the back of the amber lamps that we were moving forward no matter what

I have more nightmares about the 1% jump we took

rat ****ing people is the name of the game right now..it's a cash grab that is intended to price some people out opening their homes and areas to corporations for either permanent rental or commercial property..

Joco is the same way its criminal

Spoiler: everyone is getting ****ed

What? Don't they already have Four and Five Light plans on the books when they get done with Three? What the hell kind of stupid shit idea is this?

It’s gonna have 11 affordable units! That’s a steal for the city. Gotta build it and better give them all the breaks!

Other 97 units will be 4000/month and the building will look like absolute dogshit. But it’s new dogshit.

My first mortgage was in 1984 @ 17.7%. Beautiful little airplane bungalow in the oldest part of town. 40k.

And yes contraction of the money supply is exactly set up to slow down the housing market. Hope it works. I’m headed out of this area soon enough. Will definitely be a shoebox instead of a palace as I set up for the 3rd and 4th quarter of life.

this is nationwide. I couldn’t buy my house today. Last time I looked it had tripled what we paid for it 10 years ago. But, now I have to deal with property taxes going up but not because of my homes increased value but across the board property tax increases.

Flood insurance(really hurricane) went up $2-$3K for most. Now, we can move from being on the water so no one needs to shed a tear for us ****ers.

But, just regular house insurance went up $1500 too. I’d bet we can find a poster on here from every state with a similar story.

I refinanced a couple of years ago. Got a 30 year/2.3% rate. Was going to put $500 a month back into my pocket. Until they raised the Insurance and taxes. Totally wiped it out.

Not even starter homes are spared.