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staylor26 07-21-2023 10:44 AM

If you were in the NFL, would you have a problem working with a gay trainer?
 
Twisted thinks CP is so bigoted that fewer than 50% of CP member would be okay with this.

Let's prove him wrong CP!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17025406)
But do you think a lot of people here would be okay if a gay person worked beside them and stretched them out?

I would imagine well fewer than 50pct of members on here would be okay with that.


deegs 07-21-2023 10:47 AM

Am I getting a reach around? I vote yes regardless

BWillie 07-21-2023 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025442)
Twisted thinks CP is so bigoted that fewer than 50% of CP member would be okay with this.

Let's prove him wrong CP!

Why would you care? If you care that the trainer was gay, then you should equally care if it was a women. Each is the same in a professional setting as the issue is that they are possibly attracted to you, no?

DaFace 07-21-2023 10:49 AM

This is like posting a poll to ask people to publicly proclaim that they're racist. Quality methodology.

Jewish Rabbi 07-21-2023 10:50 AM

I see Big Bill post on CP every day

FloridaMan88 07-21-2023 10:50 AM

I’d be okay working with a lesbian trainer… as long as she was attractive.

IowaHawkeyeChief 07-21-2023 10:50 AM

Depends on their actions. Many people are uncomfortable working with someone who could be sexually attractive to them if they are being overtly creepy. If he is professional it most likely wouldn't lead being uncomfortable with a large majority. That being said, some will be uncomfortable, just as some women would be uncomfortable working with a male trainer or a lesbian.

staylor26 07-21-2023 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17025459)
This is like posting a poll to ask people to publicly proclaim that they're racist. Quality methodology.

Well if you listen to everybody else, this place is full of openly bigoted people, so why wouldn't they answer it honestly?

You can hide the poll results if that's possible to change.

Mecca 07-21-2023 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17025459)
This is like posting a poll to ask people to publicly proclaim that they're racist. Quality methodology.

I'm sure people will just out themselves.

Eleazar 07-21-2023 10:52 AM

I'm not in the habit of asking my colleagues about their sexual proclivities and I'd prefer they don't share them with me either.

Eureka 07-21-2023 10:53 AM

Not at all.


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staylor26 07-21-2023 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17025477)
I'm sure people will just out themselves.

It's absolutely hilarious watching your display of cognitive dissonance.

Why would people hide it? This place is openly bigoted. The country is openly bigoted. What's keeping them from answering honestly?

Bearcat 07-21-2023 10:56 AM

Really curious to get staylor's thoughts on this.

Mecca 07-21-2023 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025485)
It's absolutely hilarious watching your display of cognitive dissonance.

Why would people hide it? This place is openly bigoted. The country is openly bigoted. What's keeping them from answering honestly?

Because dipshit, most people who are bigoted don't think they're bigoted you know the dude who says something inherently racist then tells you about his black friend.

Or says something homophobic then tells you he has a gay friend.

So when you basically hit them in the face with a question like this there isn't enough nuance to get a real answer.

DaFace 07-21-2023 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025473)
Well if you listen to everybody else, this place is full of openly bigoted people, so why wouldn't they answer it honestly?

You can hide the poll results if that's possible to change.

It's not.

BWillie 07-21-2023 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025485)
It's absolutely hilarious watching your display of cognitive dissonance.

Why would people hide it? This place is openly bigoted. The country is openly bigoted. What's keeping them from answering honestly?

You got that right. I was golfing with this old bird yesterday and we were talking about the prices of housing compared to KC and other places. When we were discussing Minneapolis he said, and I quote, "They have a negro problem". I about fell out of my golf shoes. I guess he just thought I was a racist. But it's not my job to be offended for others unless it's really vile so I didn't hit him in the head with a golf club.

TwistedChief 07-21-2023 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025485)
It's absolutely hilarious watching your display of cognitive dissonance.

Why would people hide it? This place is openly bigoted. The country is openly bigoted. What's keeping them from answering honestly?

You’re either obtuse or just old-fashioned ****ing stupid. Good luck with your Candyland poll. You’re definitely going to find the unvarnished truth, snowflake.

KCUnited 07-21-2023 10:58 AM

Shit the thread title and poll title are worded opposite

I was answering No to the thread title and didn’t read the poll title

Mecca 07-21-2023 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17025493)
You got that right. I was golfing with this old bird yesterday and we were talking about the prices of housing compared to KC and other places. When we were discussing Minneapolis he said, and I quote, "They have a negro problem". I about fell out of my golf shoes. I guess he just thought I was a racist. But it's not my job to be offended for others unless it's really vile so I didn't hit him in the head with a golf club.

After a certain age people don't even think certain phrases are racist. My friend has an uncle that is like 94 he'll just in normal conversation say something is very racist and not think anything of it because "that's just how it was when I grew up"

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17025467)
Depends on their actions. Many people are uncomfortable working with someone who could be sexually attractive to them if they are being overtly creepy. If he is professional it most likely wouldn't lead being uncomfortable with a large majority. That being said, some will be uncomfortable, just as some women would be uncomfortable working with a male trainer or a lesbian.

You bring up a good point that is probably going to be the case for most of the people that vote no.

If the only problem people have is being touched physically repeatedly, is that really bigoted?

Is a woman a bigot if she doesn't want a straight man stretching her out and touching her?

Also, would an assistant S&C coach even be touching players?

Not questions I considered when I rushed to start this poll lol.

DaFace 07-21-2023 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17025499)
Shit the thread title and poll title are worded opposite

I was answering No to the thread title and didn’t read the poll title

It's a staylor thread, what do you expect?

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17025494)
You’re either obtuse or just old-fashioned ****ing stupid. Good luck with your Candyland poll. You’re definitely going to find the unvarnished truth, snowflake.

I'm going to start a new anonymous poll so you don't worry buddy!

TwistedChief 07-21-2023 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025503)
You bring up a good point that is probably going to be the case for most of the people that vote no.

If the only problem people have is being touched physically repeatedly, is that really bigoted?

Is a woman a bigot if she doesn't want a straight man stretching her out and touching her?

Also, would an assistant S&C coach even be touching players?

Not questions I considered when I rushed to start this poll lol.

Omfg!!

Staylor stopped to actually think!!

Sounds the alarms!!

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17025504)
It's a staylor thread, what do you expect?

Yea, because I have a history of ****ing threads up!

:rolleyes:

Im starting a new one to fix this issue and make it anonymous. Please delete this one.

seclark 07-21-2023 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17025499)
Shit the thread title and poll title are worded opposite

I was answering No to the thread title and didn’t read the poll title

Yeah, this ^
I want my vote back
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DaFace 07-21-2023 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025514)
Yea, because I have a history of ****ing threads up!

:rolleyes:

Im starting a new one to fix this issue and make it anonymous. Please delete this one.

No.

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17025511)
Omfg!!

Staylor stopped to actually think!!

Sounds the alarms!!

Funny because you didn't stop to think when you used the word "trainer" and brought up "stretching". I got caught up in your inability to stop and think, so we're both guilty.

Bearcat 07-21-2023 11:04 AM

Ooh, we can merge the threads and see what it does to the polls!

ChiefsCountry 07-21-2023 11:05 AM

You don't have to like someone's lifestyle preferences to work with them

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17025518)
No.

You're being quite the antagonistic little bitch.

I love how certain Mods think they're cool for being a Mod.

You're the equivalent of an internet hall monitor pussy.

DrunkBassGuitar 07-21-2023 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17025499)
Shit the thread title and poll title are worded opposite

I was answering No to the thread title and didn’t read the poll title

yeah lol I voted no as in I don't give a shit if my trainer or doctor or physical therapist is gay not no as in I'd not be okay with it

shit poll

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-21-2023 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17025499)
Shit the thread title and poll title are worded opposite

I was answering No to the thread title and didn’t read the poll title

Same.

DaFace says they can't change the vote.

RealSNR 07-21-2023 11:06 AM

That would creep me out a bit, so I’d only have a gay trainer if they gave me a blowie afterward

Fish 07-21-2023 11:07 AM

staylor ****s up gay polls.

TwistedChief 07-21-2023 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025520)
Funny because you didn't stop to think when you used the word "trainer" and brought up "stretching". I got caught up in your inability to stop and think, so we're both guilty.

You seriously don’t think a strength and conditioning coach might be involved in prescribing and helping with an athlete’s stretching regiment?!

kysirsoze 07-21-2023 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17025499)
Shit the thread title and poll title are worded opposite

I was answering No to the thread title and didn’t read the poll title

HAHAHAHAHA This is perfect.

kysirsoze 07-21-2023 11:10 AM

Can't wait for the third thread about the topic no one cares about.

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17025530)
You seriously don’t think a strength and conditioning coach might be involved in prescribing and helping with an athlete’s stretching regiment?!

They might. But I don't at all think that a regular recurring thing if they do at all. I'd imagine it's usually going to be a trainer stretching them out personally/physically.

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:13 AM

I think that bitch DaFace is keeping me from starting a new thread.

Edit: yup I'm blocked from starting threads now for the entire forum.

Never had any issues with me starting threads in the past and now my thread starting priveleges are taken away for what? Making a mistake and calling you a hall monitor? Couldn't even get a warning? What a ****ing pussy.

DaFace 07-21-2023 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17025527)
Same.

DaFace says they can't change the vote.

We can edit the totals, but we can't change votes. (Honestly, it'd be kind of ****ed up if we could.)

DaFace 07-21-2023 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025524)
You're being quite the antagonistic little bitch.

I love how certain Mods think they're cool for being a Mod.

You're the equivalent of an internet hall monitor pussy.

You've shown your ass repeatedly over this whole thing that you don't care about. I don't see why I should put out any effort to prevent you from continuing to dig yourself into a hole. Maybe if you post 5-10 more threads people would start to understand how much you don't care.

Bearcat 07-21-2023 11:17 AM

staylor on a rabblerouser-like rampage and I'm just over here removing thread starting privs for the lulz.

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staylor26 07-21-2023 11:20 AM

**** it, might just leave for good.

kysirsoze 07-21-2023 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025569)
**** it, might just leave for good.

Start a thread!


Oh wait.

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17025560)
You've shown your ass repeatedly over this whole thing that you don't care about. I don't see why I should put out any effort to prevent you from continuing to dig yourself into a hole. Maybe if you post 5-10 more threads people would start to understand how much you don't care.

How exactly have I "shown my ass"? For having reasonable opinions that people like you disagree with?

You would think I said something awful or disgusting.

Otter 07-21-2023 11:24 AM

I demand my trainer be gay so we can discuss interior decorating while he caudles me.

BWillie 07-21-2023 11:25 AM

You guys know that you don't have to **** the trainer, right? That is just what Deshaun Watson does.

Mecca 07-21-2023 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17025573)
Start a thread!


Oh wait.

Will anyone care about that thread?

Bearcat 07-21-2023 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025551)
What a ****ing pussy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025569)
**** it, might just leave for good.

Isn't this how it often goes around here.... those who are so quick to call someone else a pussy will jump off a bridge if you push back a tiny bit?


(I did give your thread starting privs back, btw... it was my small contribution to this clown show /takes a bow)

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17025587)
Isn't this how it often goes around here.... those who are so quick to call someone else a pussy will jump off a bridge if you push back a tiny bit?


(I did give your thread starting privs back, btw... it was my small contribution to this clown show /takes a bow)

"Push back a tiny bit"?

That's what taking threat starting privileges away is?

If it was jsut a joke fine, but how was I supposed to know. I thought I was being punished for wrongthink. Huge difference.

dlphg9 07-21-2023 11:31 AM

Voted no, but meant to vote yes. Poll is now ****ed! Sorry guys.

dlphg9 07-21-2023 11:32 AM

Wait no. I was right the first time. I read the question wrong the second time lol

TwistedChief 07-21-2023 11:35 AM

Just want to go on record:

1/ I think staylor should be able to start threads including this ill-conceived poll
2/ I am very confident that this poll will not be a true representation and we’ll see over 50pct completely fine with it
3/ staylor will proclaim victory without understanding poll biases or even having even heard the term ‘psephology’ in his life

dlphg9 07-21-2023 11:35 AM

Wait, god dammit. Poll title and thread title are different

Bearcat 07-21-2023 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025594)
"Push back a tiny bit"?

That's what taking threat starting privileges away is?

If it was jsut a joke fine, but how was I supposed to know. I thought I was being punished for wrongthink. Huge difference.

That's typically when it's useful to not fly off the handle about things.

If it never crossed your mind that it could be a joke (and on top of that, the most Zen mod here suddenly being some kind of vindictive asshole), then maybe you're a bit too high strung at the moment. :shrug:

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17025610)
Just want to go on record:

1/ I think staylor should be able to start threads including this ill-conceived poll
2/ I am very confident that this poll will not be a true representation and we’ll see over 50pct completely fine with it
3/ staylor will proclaim victory without understanding poll biases or even having even heard the term ‘psephology’ in his life

So a poll means absolutely nothing but your assumption of how bigoted CP is is the gospel? Got it.

I won't waste my time making another thread then.

staylor26 07-21-2023 11:42 AM

CP is openly bigoted, but people still wouldn't honsetly answer a poll with invisible results (by name) on an anonymous football forum.

MMXcalibur 07-21-2023 11:43 AM

The topic title and the poll flip-flopped on the question being asked.

To be clear, I wouldn't have a problem working with a gay trainer.

Sassy Squatch 07-21-2023 11:44 AM

Finally, some good ****ing burst on CP.

RealSNR 07-21-2023 11:45 AM

I think we'd all be living in peace and harmony on CP right now if Delonte Pipkins had signed with the Chiefs

TwistedChief 07-21-2023 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025620)
So a poll means absolutely nothing but your assumption of how bigoted CP is is the gospel? Got it.

I won't waste my time making another thread then.

In the other thread, I shared an actual poll conducted by people who do this for a living.

I gave you the split.

I then asked you which way CP would lean relative to that.

I then asked to adjust that further for the act of touching rather than just simply finding something “morally okay.”

I also added a study showing that anti-gay sentiment was under-reported in anonymous polls.

Respond to that in a sensible way and let’s walk through it together. That’s going to be a lot more worthwhile than your Mickey Mouse poll you’ve already butchered.

Red Dawg 07-21-2023 11:47 AM

The only people that make a big deal about gays is themselves.

FlaChief58 07-21-2023 11:59 AM

How much is a happy ending?

ThaVirus 07-21-2023 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025569)
**** it, might just leave for good.

Haha, what a BITCH!

ToxSocks 07-21-2023 12:10 PM

Here, i'll be totally honest:

1. I would have no problem with a gay trainer if that's whats assigned to me. I would not complain or seek a different trainer based on their sexuality.

2. I would absolutely have an order of preference however if all things are equal and i were given a choice.
a) Woman (straight or gay)
b) straight male
c) gay male

3. If the gay male is superior in their trade than the female or straight male, then that could sway my order of preference.

That's just me being totally honest.

If that makes me a bigot or w/e the ****, then so be it.

wazu 07-21-2023 12:13 PM

Wait, you changed the question in the poll from the thread title/OP. No I would not have a problem.

Mephistopheles Janx 07-21-2023 12:15 PM

POLL ****ING FAIL.

You asked a different question in the title than in the poll question itself.

I would *NOT* have a problem.

TrebMaxx 07-21-2023 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17025691)
POLL ****ING FAIL.

You asked a different question in the title than in the poll question itself.

I would *NOT* have a problem.

I agree.

FlaChief58 07-21-2023 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17025691)
POLL ****ING FAIL.

You asked a different question in the title than in the poll question itself.

I would *NOT* have a problem.

This is why I don't vote on polls

Fish 07-21-2023 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025569)
**** it, might just leave for good.

https://i.imgur.com/rgeNbKU.jpg

wazu 07-21-2023 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17025514)
Yea, because I have a history of ****ing threads up!

:rolleyes:

Im starting a new one to fix this issue and make it anonymous. Please delete this one.

Okay just saw this. Honest mistake.

Rain Man 07-21-2023 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17025695)
This is why I don't vote on polls

That was a dagger to my heart.

ThaVirus 07-21-2023 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17025695)
This is why I don't vote on polls

Yeah, but do you smoke ‘em? That’s what’s important here, bud.

Dunerdr 07-21-2023 01:00 PM

I work at the data center that powers the CP search. As a straight white male im the minority. I would not have a problem.

A Salt Weapon 07-21-2023 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17025466)
I’d be okay working with a lesbian trainer… as long as she was attractive.

I’m kinda think a straight female trainer would be better to work with, very slim chance of the lesbian trainer getting frisky.

FlaChief58 07-21-2023 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17025758)
Yeah, but do you smoke ‘em? That’s what’s important here, bud.

20 bucks is 20 bucks

DenverChief 07-21-2023 01:27 PM

I answered the poll the way the question was posed in the thread title not the question in the poll :facepalm:

lewdog 07-21-2023 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17025499)
Shit the thread title and poll title are worded opposite

I was answering No to the thread title and didn’t read the poll title

Yup, absolutely horrible design. I had to double check that the OP was honestly wording the thread title and the poll question opposite.

Poll is epic fail and needs to be redone.

lewdog 07-21-2023 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17025817)
I answered the poll the way the question was posed in the thread title not the question in the poll :facepalm:

I'm just hoping that if I had a gay trainer, that they could grammar better than staylor.

DJay23 07-21-2023 01:40 PM

As someone on the young end of Gen X, I feel like we are in a unique position. We were taught as boys by our dads, uncles, grandpas, and teachers to "Be a man" and "Don't be a sissy." It was an insult to be called gay, queer, bundle of sticks, etc. Our children's generation don't seem to quite have this dynamic. In fact my observation as a middle school teacher is that boys now will lean into those kinds of insults.

25 years ago, I would feel very uncomfortable with a gay coworker, especially one who's job it was to physically touch me from time to time. Now, not so much. I guess as you live you gain wisdom and understand that working with a gay man will no more make you gay than will working with a woman guarantee you're hetero. I have two gay colleagues (that I know of). One a man and the other a woman. They are both excellent at their jobs and great hard working role models for kids.

When I was in college I worked at a grocery store. One night close to closing a friend of a coworker came in to pick her up for a night out. He was a young gay man. The coworker told me as she was getting set to go clock out that her friend told her I was cute. Initially I was defensive and and put off by this, but then I realized, this is just as much a compliment as if a woman of the same age said it. We're all out her just looking for some beauty in the world aren't we?

There's nothing to be afraid of men. Be calm. Be brave. It'll be ok.


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