Let's Talk About the Bills.
 

Early Vegas line is Chiefs -3 at home.

Buffalo (6-6) coming off a bye, has seen their offense improve under an interim OC, but five of the six the teams they've beaten are at or near the bottom of the league: Giants, Jets, Commanders, Raiders, Jets. Last week lost a close one to Philadelphia in OT. Bills had over 500 yards of offense.

Chiefs (8-4) well, we know how they've been doing. Finally back at Arrowhead after two road games and likely with two defensive starters out. How do we beat 'em?

2-3 in our last 5 games.

The Bills HAVE to win this game.

This is NOT going to be easy.

I'm here for the crushing of their spirits...again.

How do we beat them and the refs?

F*** Buffalo. That is all.

Win this one, and the 1 seed is there for the taking.

Lose this one, and we’d need a lot of help to get the 1 seed.

Even though the bye is a major factor, 2 wouldn’t be the end of the world. Always a strong chance 1 gets beat before we face them and still get to play the AFCCG at home.

They have better WRs than Green Bay.

The Bills are all over the place. Some blowout wins, and some ugly losses to bad teams. Feels like it depends on which Bills team shows up.

If our DBs play like last night we're toast. Need to blanket Diggs and have safety help over the top w/ Gabe Davis. Need a spy on Josh Allen.

Desperate dangerous team.. Going to take maximum effort to beat them… Hope it’s not a shoot out because they have the advantage with their WRs.. The Chiefs should rebound and win a close one going down to the wire..

I don't feel good about this game.

All our injuries, all our woes on offense, our mistakes, and a very pissed off and desperate Bills team.

I lost my optimism a while ago. I just don't want to see Mahomes, Kelce, Rice, Pacheco and a few of our D get injured. That's all I hoping for moving forward.

The Packers smacked us all over that field last night. Embarrassing more than angry.

They are desperate for a win...but now we are too.

If Tranquil clears concussion protocol and is back on the field, I feel much better about the Defense. Not having him or Bolton was a much bigger loss than we think and I think it affected the entire game.

Sneed or McDuffie needs to lock down Diggs. The other needs to lock down Gabe Davis. Do those two things and it will go a long way to securing victory.

Sneed will follow Diggs and we'll switch out on Davis. That's the recent pattern.

Need Tranquil to come back for sure. Bolton coming back soon would be clutch too.

And we need to haul Skyy and MVS out back and shoot them. That would be clutch too.

I've had this marked as a LOSS all season and nothing the Chiefs have done has changed my mind.

The Bills play the Chiefs tough, and I think this will be their super bowl.

Hope I'm wrong.

You're right but Josh Allen is a rollercoaster coming off of two good games so he's due for a bunch of turnovers. Bills will be desperate for a win so I think that makes Allen play hero ball and make mistakes. It's at home which is enormous. I think we win it but I really wish we still had a loss we could give up and it not hurt.

Buffalo scored 24 on last years Defense....they have not really gotten better offensively and our Defense is significantly better.

Buffalo's defense has been ravaged by injuries, so maybe our Offense can get its shit together and have a game similiar to the Raiders game and put some points on the board.

Gonna be a fight---the Chiefs have answered the bell more often than not when up against the wall. Hoping they can do it again.

It'll only take 13 seconds to explain how we can beat Buffalo!

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I'd be shocked if that turd Skyy gets a single target in this game. Mahomes went out of his way to get MVS involved in the Packers game and he shit himself too. I'm hoping for big games for James, Watson and Rice.

This game is huge on many levels. Obviously need it for the one seed but also could come pretty close to knocking the Bills out of the playoffs. If there was ever a season to get fortunate and not have to face a top QB in the playoffs to make the Super Bowl this is the one with our struggling in offense.

Richie looked explosive on that kick return, and his one catch was great.

I'd much rather see him getting targets than MVS or Skyy.

Our boys got the shit beat out of them last night and the bills are coming off a bye. This could get ugly real quick for the good guys.

Oh good.

I'm glad the Go Zone didn't take too long to get here.

I feel like with this squad, the only way my optimism would improve is if Mahomes were running the offense like Manning used to run his.

Override the dumb bullshit where youre lining up at wide receiver, and call the plays you think are best for what you're seeing on the field, and unless we're up by 14 minimum, Butker does not exist outside of game winning fg territory, and Townsend does not exist from inside their 40 on 4th and 5 or less.


It's time to change how this putrid offense operates. Adopting that aggressive philosophy opens up a lot more opportunities when you know on 3rd down you don't need it all at once.

it's wallcrawlers week, ya'll

enjoy LMAO

i'm going to go play video games

Mahomes may be in the GO Zone but MVS, SKYY and a few others are in the nOzone

injuries going to be key. Buffalo has been running a lot lately. Ran all over Philly. Desperate team. Andy Reid does well in these type of games.

they definitely dont lol

This game is winnable.

Run power and counters right at Buffalo.

Take the plays to the outside out of the gameplan completely against them. They have small, fast little linebackers who will run as fast as they can to the sideline.

Throw to Kelce and get Rice going on real WR plays more and that should be enough on offense.

On defense Spags needs to dial up pressures and continually change the looks for Allen and he will make mistakes or check the ball down.

hopefully the defense plays a little bit better when the field isn't turning them into side characters in a Saw movie

**** the bills

It's like looking in a mirror.

Buffalo coming off a bye while the Chiefs are banged up is a concern.

BUF seems to have finally figured out their offensive issues over the last couple games. And their defense actually played fairly well the last couple games as well. If they play like that, and KC plays the way they've been playing for a few weeks now, I don't know how KC wins this one, without help from the refs or some kind of letdown by their offense.

And it should be noted that BUF defense is actually ranked higher than GB and PHI in terms of DVOA. And their OFF DVOA is higher than KC's. In fact, they're ranked above BAL, DET, PHI, and DAL.

The Bills have been pretty shitty on the road and I don't think the Chiefs are going to be short on motivation. I also don't think they're going to lie down and watch Buffalo win their second straight in Arrowhead.

KC Chiefs will win imho

I don’t know. They dinked and dunked on a Jets team that quit and played a good 1st half against a Philly team that had played their SB against us the week before.

They aren’t a juggernaut.

The year has been a season of two halfs for the Bills. The awful half, and the the very good 2 games. However, the Bills have shaken off their rust and funk and are now dominating. If not for 2 missed field goals in a game marred by driving rain and wind, the Bills would be riding a two game streak having beat the Eagles.

The Chiefs on the other hand are still in their funk. Their defense is much better, possibly the best ive seen from a KC team in a decade, but they miss Tyreek Hill badly and would trade McDuffie (who has been good), Karlfatis and Watson in an instant to have Tyreek Hill back. Penny smart and pound foolish. He is a generational talent.

The Bills will likely win this game. They are the better team right now and all of their losses have come by 6 or less points. The Chiefs have lost a game by 15, and a game by 8. Josh Allen leads the NFL in total TD's and is second in passing TD's. I foresee it being a similar game to the last few times the Bills played the Chiefs, with Spagnuolo simply having no answer for the Allen riddle. The difference this time? The Chiefs have no offense to outscore Allen with.

24 pts

"the Allen riddle"

LMAO

Let's Talk About the Bills.
 

If not for mistakes they always make and bad defense they’ve had all year the Bills would be on a whopping two game win streak! They are simply dominating! Bills fans make more excuses for bad play and are more reactionary to a single game or two than any fan base I’ve ever seen.

MaxBills made me lol. Wish we played the Titans this year so we could get Jeff Fisher back. That dude could troll and always knew what league circles were up to.

Far from it.

But Buffalo has the makings of a "team no-one wants to face" over the next 5 weeks. Since firing offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, the Bills offense has scored 30+ points in back to back weeks. The Buffalo offense put up 31 points against a Philadelphia defense that Kansas City struggled to score 17 against. In addition to the 31 points, there were two missed field goals (should have scored more).

In addition to the OC changeup, Buffalo also traded for Rasul Douglas, who is a very smart and physical CB that has a top 10 PFF grade for his position. They also signed Linval Joseph that has paid immediate dividends by anchoring their defensive line. I believe if the team had these two players at the start of the season, the Bills would be 8-4 right now. This is because the Bills have 3 losses this season where the Josh Allen led offense took the lead, left the field with less than 2 minutes to go, and never saw the field again.

The Bills have the 5th highest net point differential in the league. They are a good team that has been bad at times (due to their own fault), but also very unlucky - unlucky from an injury, scheduling and referee standpoint (similar to how KC got the raw end of the refereeing stick last night). What do I mean by poor scheduling luck? Think about it - it's not just about who you play, but it's also about when you play them. For example: Miami got to play the Broncos at the beginning of the year when they were struggling badly. The Bills (and Chiefs) played them mid-year when they had their kinks worked out. The Dolphins got to play the Bengals in September, when Burrow was hobbling around the field. The Bills played the Bengals after Burrow was healed, but one game before he went out for the season. The schedule is not just about the opponent, but where the opponent is in their season when you play them.

For example, the Chiefs get Buffalo when they're hot. Rather than early on, when they were struggling.

After you beat the Chiefs, can you at least promise to root for us in the Super Bowl?

The only reason I think we win is because they are the Bills.

Clay driving hard to the hoop!

You back Diqlix?!

“MaxiBills”.

:hmmm:

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:LOL: ROFL

God bless you! I've had a terribly rough day and that just put some glide right back in my stride. Thank you! Josh says, "Hi."

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Spags solved the “Josh Allen Riddle” in the 2021 AFC Championship Game.

Hell, I know. BUF isn't that great right now, but KC is significantly worse than they were last season. And BUF has apparently figured out their offensive issues since firing Dorsey, while the Chiefs offense is in complete disarray. We're 13 weeks into the season, and we still don't have an identity on offense, and our WRs have regressed to the point that only Rice is playable.

So while I still think KC can beat BUF, I no longer think we can beat them straight up. We're going to need some help, and if not from our own WRs, then we need some help from the weather, the refs, McDermott shitting himself in the last two minutes of the game, or some combination of variables not under the Chiefs' control.

Because our offense isn't good enough to keep up with BUF's offense if they play anything like how they've been playing recently. And before we get into the whole "the Bills defense sucks," thing, I just looked them up on TeamRankings.com, and their defense is ranked higher than GB's defense. And higher than PHI's defense. So this isn't going to be like playing LVR's defense, not by a long shot.

Because you're right; BUF is desperate and they're going to come out like it's their SB. They have no choice. But they're going to have some new confidence in their offense, and plenty of tape to review on how to simultaneously put the brakes on Travis and Pacheco and force us to beat them with our WRs and Noah Gray (as DEN, MIA, and PHI did).

#1 seed or better draft pick

~at blissful post Lombardi peace

Your head is as empty as the Bills trophy case.

We can certain lose but Buffalo's offensive "resurgence" is fool's gold.


I watched both Jets and Eagles games. Jets D quit. I think Saleh was riding the team hard and they lost interest, just like last year. The fact that Garrett Wilson is considered a voice there shows they are locker room full of soft bitches.

Eagles, sure Buffalo looked good for a half but Eagles looked slow to start but once they picked up the pace Buffalo was cooked.

The **** we would. Reek is a special talent no doubt, but our D is only this good because they traded him. It was a major mistake by Veach to not address the wr's and it's most likely going to cost us the repeat, but I have the utmost confidence that Veach will address that in the draft and/or free agency. His track record when it comes to fixing the teams weakness is second to none.

I need a few more days to absorb the last game. The Bills went up and down the field on the Eagles and lost because of some hero ball throws by Hurts.

I don't like it however the offensive woes don't appear to be getting solved. And the defense has allowed some pretty average offenses to dominate quarters. One possession in each of the first two quarters?

The effort last night just wasn't there; the team had that look of all we need to do is show up and we will win. The offense doesn't scare anyone and teams are more than happy to make the Chiefs drive the field knowing a penalty, dropped pass, silly play call or turnover will stop them.

What did he solve? Allen dominated the Chiefs defense in that game. Probably the best game of his career.

They lost because their defense was inept.

Chiefs loose, McDermott is set for two more years at least

He means 2020.

eh, I won't argue with you. My point really is that if the Chiefs play the way they have over the last 4-5 weeks and the Bills play the way they have the last two or three games, we're probably screwed. Unless the defense scores a couple TDs, I just doubt our offense with these weapons can put up enough points to beat a surging BUF offense.

Allen “dominated” the Chiefs in their AFC Championship Game match-up?

What game were you watching. ROFL

Josh Allen: 28/48, 287 yards passing, 2 TD’s and 1 INT in a non competitive game.

Allen was so frustrated by Spags he threw the ball at a Chief.

The game where he got elevated to NFL royalty was when Badger went down and we had no safeties so Spags went vanilla and the results were awful. If you don't make Allen play QB he can do that.

Show him different looks, change them up. Always speed him up and make him expect pressure. He has slow eyes, make him try to find the open guy and it won't be pretty.

That and the fact that Dorsey wasn’t the issue. The issue on offense is always mostly Allen. He can torpedo his teams chances to win with the best of them, which he has done plenty of this season.

this has to be a must win game...

Yes, but if Spags can just solve the "Allen Riddle": Chiefs will be fine. :)

defense is down major personnel for this one

Let's say we NOT talk about the Bills and just have the Chiefs DO!! :thumb:

I was talking about the season after. Whatever Spags did in 2020 didn't work the year after. Allen balled against us.

Its a must win. Chiefs still have a trap game or two left on the schedule. Andy and Mahomes are flirting with disaster here. Crazy how crummy 8-4 feels. 8-5 is basically poverty

That dog turd little game Gabe better not go off again

This looks like an 11-6 Chiefs team unfortunately

He will.

Unless our trash heap WR's can figure out a way to get some separation, it may very well not have a happy ending.

Firing Dorsey is a net positive for them - they're showing up desperate & playing better as of late - I think it will be a difficult game, should be close.

The Bills have funded their stadium and the the Chiefs have already hosted the NFL Draft. The league won't care

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Agreed but we still beat Miami in the AFCC game, then all bets are off.

Dallas/Chiefs would be fun. But we likely dont beat the 49ers in a revenge SB

Chiefs only down a safety for sure. Very possible one if not both LB's will be back. Pacheo not getting suspended is he? We'd know that by now right? Bills 1-4 on road this year.

I'm all for Mahomes taking over and running shit, but when should we expect the arrival of Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edgerrin, and Dallas Clark?

Cause Mahomes ain't got what Manning had to work with.

He can't do it all by himself.

When Skyy is out there 70% of the snaps thats hard to do. I dont understand what Reid sees in him.

Well, this is my annual Arrowhead North party on Sunday. Goddammit...we better win!