*****2023 Border War Hoops and HATE Thread*****
 

The 2023 Border War installment of our 5 game not a rivalry anymore series swings back to Allen Fieldhouse where already students are camping at numbers that dwarfed our game against UCONN.

KU is still finding itself this year, as usual with early Bill Self teams. Hunter Dickinson fulfills every checkmark of a classically hated Jayhawk. Arrogant, a great flop, questionable athleticism yet can be counted on to pull a double double every night. We would have been runaway title favorites in 2007, but unfortunately, it’s 2023 and today’s game needs outside shooters to go all the way, and we’ve yet to have someone consistently step up to take on that role (this would be a great game for a Furphy coming out party).

Coming to Lawrence for their renewed John Brown invitational is the Mizzou Tigers. I actually don’t know a lot about the Tigers this year. Browsing ESPN it looks like y’all lost to Assberg State but had a helluva comeback agains Minnesota and a dub against Pitt? What’s up with your team this year, Tigers fans? A lot of turnover/young players? Fill us in if you have outside shooters and athletes to swarm Dickinson in the paint and threaten KU’s 3 game winning streak.

Come in, make yourselves at home, and shit talk like it’s 2012 again.

Mizzou playing well this year might make college basketball seem interesting to watch but I doubt it.

Tigers gonna eat those imaginary birds.

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I just can't muster the hate anymore. It's just not there. I tried REALLY hard during football season, especially last year during Bowl season. It's just not authentic anymore.

It's a meaningless early season basketball game. Nothing's really on the line. KU will likely win as they are at home and have the more talented team.

Maybe if they met in an NCCA Tourney game someday the hate would be stoked back up, but outside of that, meh.

The 'rivalry' is dead. (as evidenced by this thread having 4 replies this morning after being posted at 10 pm last night).

No one cares anymore. :shrug:

Pretty much all this.

mutts don’t have any rivals anymore. I guess arky is it for them but that’s just fabricated bullshit because they share a state line. They don’t have any hate anymore and nobody really hates or cares about them outside of their own fanbase. They just exist in the same way a school like Rutgers does.

I’ll still enjoy watching ku put 90 on them all the same

As much illegal payments that have come out. You damn well should ROFL

I get it. It’s hard to hate a program in football when you ducked a bowl matchup with them last season.

Pappy always said it was better to be fearful than hateful

Oh, I still enjoy stomping y'all, but yeah, it isn't nearly what it used to be.

Con someone translate MU pipe speak into English? :evil:

this is a thing again? Did billy self finally quit ragging about MU leaving that deadbeat conference for the best conference in America? Glad Bill got over his butthurt so these teams can play sportsball again.

When you have a chance to be a perpetual doormat in a basketball conference featuring Kentucky and Rick Barnes, you take it and don’t look back.

LFG!!!!

Y'all can suck our elite wrestling and NY6 dicks.

Good luck against Ohio State's third stringers!

Thanks. Enjoy playing in the Caesars Palace dumpster.

Nah I still hate Missouri the jayhawks going to teach Missouri Kansas is daddy.

I hope all missouri fans are burned alive

Revenge for that is coming

I own a boring flamethrower

I will go door to door to as many missouri homes...i mean trailers as i can

Classy

kU fans better enjoy this time while they still have a chance to win some of these games.

Drink has already pulled ahead and lapped Leipold in football.

Once Gates gets his recruits in, basketball will start rolling. Once Toupee Bill hangs it up, it’s going to get ugly in Hoops for kU in this series.

Not to mention the enormous resource advantage MU is going to enjoy going forward being in the SEC vs the misfit 12.

I’m afraid the gap between kU and their daddy is only going to continue to widen.

Gates is an awful coach. Gimmicky shit. And can't coach defense. No coach in college bball wins shit without being able to coach defense. The best coach I can think of whos teams suck ballsack at defense every year is Iowas Fran McCaffrey. Thats about the best you can expect.

Defensive rating out of D1 teams
2024 Missouri...............85th
2023 Missouri...............180th
2022 Cleveland State....227th
2021 Cleveland State....138th
2020 Cleveland State....250th

Living in the future is fun, it can be whatever you want it to be..

Living in the present is also fun... for some, I guess.

Kind of like Bill Self and KU ducked Mizzou for years cause they were butthurt about them leaving the Big 12?

It's fun to go back and forth once in a while, but again, the hate's just not there anymore.

Yup. Arky is the rival now. Border state, compete for same recruits in football and basketball. Coaches in football and basketball changing teams from one to another (Anderson, Odom, etc.). Obviously, not the long term tradition that MU-KU had, but that takes time to build. Arky fans legit hate Mizzou, so that's fun.

Looking forward to Oklahoma joining the SEC next year as that will bring in an old Big 8 rival, lot of history there from years back, so that will be good.

Oh, and **** Texas! Hope Michigan destroys them in the playoff and I hate the BIG10!

"Ducking" is an interesting term to use given the context and the stature of those two programs. I'd say "ignoring" would be more accurate.

ku just keeps trying to force this rivalry. Yall pussed out of 10 years not playing us because you were butthurt we left for greener pastures. This is not a rivalry. GL in the little12 losers.

That doesn't even make a little sense... go back to threads as long back as you want and KU fans are trolling ya'll telling you to be better before it's even considered a rivalry.

It was a JV rivalry except for a couple years in both sports.

You can call it whatever you want but they 'avoided' playing Mizzou because they were pouting and upset over them leaving.

That part really isn't even up for debate in lieu of some of Self's comments.

I'll call it ignoring an irrelevant program, yes.

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You're right, this isn't like any rivalry I've ever seen.

lol

Bill Self sure had a lot to say about it from time to time when it was brought up over the years for supposedly 'ignoring' them.

He could have just said 'next question' and left it at that and moved on but he felt the need to justify his position.

Sounds like butthurt to me, but if you want to call it ignoring by all means . . . .

It's funny you all say things like this and then the second tickets go on sale for this 'irrelevant' program, your KU fans by them up in what, under an hour? I think the first game it was 15 minutes.

Seems like a lot of your fans and boosters are still interested in this 'irrelevant' program, huh?

Hard to feel a rivalry with a team that had to practice how to celebrate after winning a game.

What does this mean?

This is probably some next level Muttgers smack I’m just not picking up on relating to our basketball program

At least a few million people watch Thursday Night Football every week, too, but we can still call them awful games against awful irrelevant teams. I can even say the Chiefs/Broncos game in week 6 was pretty damn bad and it's an irrelevant rivalry against an irrelevant team, even if Arrowhead was filled to capacity. :shrug:

Oh sure, because KU hasn't been able to find good coaches to take over the program. Only 3 HOF coaches in the past 40 years or so. :rolleyes:

JuSt WaIt UnTiL tHeY gEt RiD oF lArRy BrOwN, tHeY'lL gO iN tHe ShItTeR!

jUsT wAiT uNtIl ThEy GeT rId Of RoY wIlLiAmS, ThEy'Ll Go In ThE sHiTtEr!

JuSt WaIt UnTiL tHeY gEt RiD oF bIlL sElF, tHeY'lL gO iN tHe ShItTeR!

jUsT wA eR, nEvErMiNd!

Meanwhile, over 9,000 days (or almost 25 YEARS) since they won in Allen Fieldhouse.

As I recall, Missouri leaving like they did caused a lot of disruption and uncertainty for the conference. And Self felt that we should not reward Missouri by playing them. Most KU fans were fine with and agreed with that stance. Most MU fans here were the ones trying to convince us that we should continue the rivalry. Frankly, I would have been fine with never playing MU ever again.

Of course, most of that turmoil was ultimately due to Texas and their controlling BS. Well, now they're your problem once again. Good luck with that. :p

Yes, I realize KU likely sells out all of their home games.

But how often do they sell them out in under an hour? Or 15 minutes in the case of the first game back at AFH between KU and Mizzou.

That was the point.

Apparently, some people (including many on your side) still REALLY care about the game.

I'm not one of them and it just feels like the real 'hate' between the schools has passed. :shrug:

YES! And THAT pisses me off!

I welcome Oklahoma with open arms to the SEC. Fun old Big 8 rivalry. Want nothing to do with Texas and their bullshit!

The silver lining here is that Texas won't be able to pull the same shit in the SEC that they did in the Big 12. The 'old guard' will make sure of that.

90 percent of them live in western Missouri ROFL

Most mutt fans live out of the sleeper cab in a semi full of piss jugs.

At least the odds are good that you'll get to secelebrate another bammy championship this winter.

That is most likely going to continue.

Sometimes it pays to be a flesh light for the big boys. Nothing better than watching bama win another one in your favorite most comfy sec shirt

Think your football team....

What did he mean by this?

Texas isn't in the driver's seat like they were in the Big 12...so now they get to feel what it is like to be "just one of the gang ".

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"Charlie Weis has the Kansas Football Team practicing how to celebrate after a win"

Front Butt has been gone for almost a decade.

Almost as long as the world has been around!

I'm not gonna lie. I can get excited for some MU KU basketball. It's really nice being on the MU side, because I can shit talk if MU wins and if KU wins, well it's because they were supposed to.

TBT and Pitt are above it. And they want us all to know that.

It's December college hoops, and this is by far the most interesting game on the schedule for both teams until conference play begins. No shame in showing some emotion.

If you enjoy watching college basketball, regardless of your affiliation, then this is still a game worth watching. I know we're favored and we should beat the piss outta mu. But if you miracled a win outta this then I have a sneaking suspicion some of the "above it" crowd might just turn back up here with some sort of interest in the rivalry moving forward.

What a shitty way to start hawks!

Yeah this is some sluggish, ugly bullshit thus far

This is better!

I like this East kid for MU. He should hit the portal and go somewhere that his talent can actually matter.

Timberlake sucks

I think Fran has orgasmed 3x already

East is pretty impressive.

And 1

It's time to blast these MUckers back to there wasteland, in Columbia!

The kid does have game!

I need to go to a KU/MU basketball game sometime. Done KSU/KU basketball and KU/MU football. I really miss my uncle having baller season tickets and rarely anyone to go with.

Keep throwing up those air ball 3s! ****ing idiots

Damn, Fizzou has disappeared!

Blonde Jackson Vroman on MU seems like he sucks.

Bill Self coaches and teaches game management better than anyone. Fun to watch his teams play.

Nice start by Mizzou, but the pants shitting has commenced.

17-2 run so far

We went from being down 9 pts to up by 10, 11 or 12?

The way you guys opened up and played with a lot of fire I thought we were in for a dog fight.

Close half on 20-2 run.

Classic Jayhawks

Now open the second half with a good run and wnjoy the afternoon.