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big nasty kcnut 01-17-2024 09:41 PM

The referees for Sunday game.
 
Chiefs at Bills, 6:30 p.m. CBS PARAMOUNT+
Shawn Hochuli is the referee, who is in his 10th season and 6th as referee. This is Hochuli’s 8th postseason assignment, including a Wild Card Playoff and 7 Divisional Playoffs.


R 83 Shawn Hochuli 10 Claremont financial advisor
U 77 Terry Killens 5 Hochuli Penn State campus security specialist FORMER NFL PLAYER
DJ 106 Patrick Holt 5 Hochuli North Carolina State IT manager
LJ 47 Tim Podraza 16 Hochuli Nebraska business performance consultant
FJ 90 Anthony Flemming 4 Hussey Texas A&M-Commerce senior auditor
SJ 103 Eugene Hall 10 Cheffers North Texas federal agent
BJ 78 Greg Meyer 22 Eck Texas Christian banker
RO Tyler Cerimeli 6 Hochuli Arizona State high school officials coordinator
RA Tim Robinson 1 Hochuli
ALT R Craig Wrolstad 21 Washington athletic director
ALT U Ramon George 8 Rogers Lenoir-Rhyne financial underwriter
ALT LJ Rusty Baynes 14 Kemp Auburn-Montgomery general manager, safety services
ALT SJ Chad Hill 6 Hochuli Mississippi medical sales
ALT BJ Jimmy Russell 5 Vinovich Pasco Hernando State insurance agent

Bump 01-17-2024 10:15 PM

I didn't even know ****ing Ed Hochuli had a son reff'ing too, ****

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-17-2024 10:42 PM

I heard somewhere today that the Bills fans are pissed, hate this crew and Bills are 1-3 with them averaging 10 penalties per game

Buehler445 01-17-2024 10:51 PM

At least it’s not Carl Butt****ing Cheffers

smithandrew051 01-17-2024 10:53 PM

I hope they have preteen Swifty daughters whom they’re scared to disappoint

Chiefnj2 01-18-2024 01:29 PM

He was the ref for the first Chiefs/Broncos and Chiefs/Pats game.

Against Denver there were 7 accepted penalties against KC for 84 yards.

Against the Pats there were 2 accepted penalties against KC for 15 yards.

https://www.nflpenalties.com/game/de...efs-10-12-2023

Stanley Nickels 01-18-2024 02:02 PM

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Molitoth 01-18-2024 02:26 PM

How to fix the NFL referee problem in 3 easy steps:

1) Allow additional challenge criteria (AKA: Pass Interference, hands to the face, etc) It will add an extra 15 minutes to the game time, big whoop.
2) Make them full time employees that get paid well.
3) Make them accountable for bad calls. (Fines > Suspensions > Termination)

T-post Tom 01-18-2024 02:53 PM

Assholes at Deadspin at it again. At least they're not using their power and platform to slander innocent children this time.

If you already think the Kansas City Chiefs get all the calls...
The team is 8-2 when Shawn Hochuli is refereeing — and he'll lead the officiating crew in Buffalo on Sunday


Good news, Chiefs fans. Shawn Hochuli will be the referee for Kansas City’s AFC Divisional round game against the Buffalo Bills.

Hochuli has officiated 10 of Kansas City’s games in the Patrick Mahomes era, with the Chiefs going 8-2 in those contests. In the playoffs, KC is 2-0 with Hochuli reffing.

This season, Hochuli was in charge of officiating two Chiefs games, which were both KC wins over New England and Denver.

While that may appear to be good news for the AFC’s No. 3 seed, it certainly seems to be the opposite for Buffalo.

The Bills were penalized 40 times for 347 yards in the last four games that Hochuli has reffed. That includes this season’s OT loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.

In that one game, Hochuli called Buffalo for 11 penalties — one more than he called against New England in two games. The Bills lost the sixth-most yards under a Hochuli-led crew this year.

“Hochuli is known for calling a penalty-filled game,” wrote Chris Owen for WYRK radio’s website. “He’s also the head official for the Bills game in Philadelphia, where the crew missed an obvious horse-collar tackle on Josh Allen, which likely would have resulted in a red zone touchdown.”

This data doesn’t help the ongoing notion that Kansas City gets most of the calls in its favor. :hmmm: In those two wins with Hochuli and crew officiating, the Chiefs were only hit with nine penalties for 99 yards.

Back in October, Pete Grathoff of the Kansas City Star wrote about two fourth-quarter calls — PI against L’Jarius Sneed, and no flag for him removing his helmet — that fans/viewers believe were “slanted in favor of the Chiefs.”

He says KC doesn’t get any special treatment, because Dean Blandino, the former ref turned Fox Sports rules analyst said so.

“I know that’s a popular narrative around fans who say they’re a successful team, they’re gonna get the call, that stuff tends to even out over the course of time,” Blandino said in an interview on The Drive, a Kansas City sports radio station (KCSP 610 AM).

https://deadspin.com/kansas-city-chiefs-buffalo-bills-shawn-hochuli-nfl-afc-1851176991

Wisconsin_Chief 01-18-2024 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 17344832)

Indeed. Indeed. :clap:

Wisconsin_Chief 01-18-2024 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17344870)
How to fix the NFL referee problem in 3 easy steps:

1) Allow additional challenge criteria (AKA: Pass Interference, hands to the face, etc) It will add an extra 15 minutes to the game time, big whoop.
2) Make them full time employees that get paid well.
3) Make them accountable for bad calls. (Fines > Suspensions > Termination)

The NFL can make literally anything happen on planet Earth that they want to, but for some *cRaZy* reason they won't do these very simple things.

Wonder why? :hmmm:

I mean people keep posting shit like this about how simple the solution is, all you're doing is proving the point of those of us who understand why things are the way they are.

They. Want. It. This. Way.

Rausch 01-18-2024 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 17344832)

https://c.tenor.com/Hk8lhY_rjdEAAAAC/let-them-fight.gif

wazu 01-18-2024 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17344870)
How to fix the NFL referee problem in 3 easy steps:

1) Allow additional challenge criteria (AKA: Pass Interference, hands to the face, etc) It will add an extra 15 minutes to the game time, big whoop.
2) Make them full time employees that get paid well.
3) Make them accountable for bad calls. (Fines > Suspensions > Termination)

I support 1 and 3, but regarding 2 they already get paid an ungodly amount of money. If there is value to making them full-time, they could just do so without paying them more and I'll bet almost nobody resigns.

DJJasonp 01-18-2024 04:14 PM

heh. I used to work with someone who's brother is the line judge for this game.

If we get a nonsense offensive offsides call, I know who/where to go!

Renegade 01-18-2024 05:27 PM

What other sport do we even know the names of the referees? Do we even care outside of the NFL? Other sports commentators never mention the ref by name. It is like they have inserted themselves into the game/storylines.

DJJasonp 01-18-2024 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 17345126)
What other sport do we even know the names of the referees? Do we even care outside of the NFL? Other sports commentators never mention the ref by name. It is like they have inserted themselves into the game/storylines.

that's a great point. They dont typically do it in college (though in mens BB you knew a few).

I dont think the refs inserted their names.......i think the NFL/broadcasters have.

Easy scapegoat.

Kiimo 01-18-2024 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 17345126)
What other sport do we even know the names of the referees? Do we even care outside of the NFL? Other sports commentators never mention the ref by name. It is like they have inserted themselves into the game/storylines.

NBA

DJJasonp 01-18-2024 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17345147)
NBA

Tim Donaghy ;)

Rain Man 01-18-2024 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17344901)
Assholes at Deadspin at it again. At least they're not using their power and platform to slander innocent children this time.

If you already think the Kansas City Chiefs get all the calls...
The team is 8-2 when Shawn Hochuli is refereeing — and he'll lead the officiating crew in Buffalo on Sunday


Good news, Chiefs fans. Shawn Hochuli will be the referee for Kansas City’s AFC Divisional round game against the Buffalo Bills.

Hochuli has officiated 10 of Kansas City’s games in the Patrick Mahomes era, with the Chiefs going 8-2 in those contests. In the playoffs, KC is 2-0 with Hochuli reffing.

This season, Hochuli was in charge of officiating two Chiefs games, which were both KC wins over New England and Denver.

While that may appear to be good news for the AFC’s No. 3 seed, it certainly seems to be the opposite for Buffalo.

The Bills were penalized 40 times for 347 yards in the last four games that Hochuli has reffed. That includes this season’s OT loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.

In that one game, Hochuli called Buffalo for 11 penalties — one more than he called against New England in two games. The Bills lost the sixth-most yards under a Hochuli-led crew this year.

“Hochuli is known for calling a penalty-filled game,” wrote Chris Owen for WYRK radio’s website. “He’s also the head official for the Bills game in Philadelphia, where the crew missed an obvious horse-collar tackle on Josh Allen, which likely would have resulted in a red zone touchdown.”

This data doesn’t help the ongoing notion that Kansas City gets most of the calls in its favor. :hmmm: In those two wins with Hochuli and crew officiating, the Chiefs were only hit with nine penalties for 99 yards.

Back in October, Pete Grathoff of the Kansas City Star wrote about two fourth-quarter calls — PI against L’Jarius Sneed, and no flag for him removing his helmet — that fans/viewers believe were “slanted in favor of the Chiefs.”

He says KC doesn’t get any special treatment, because Dean Blandino, the former ref turned Fox Sports rules analyst said so.

“I know that’s a popular narrative around fans who say they’re a successful team, they’re gonna get the call, that stuff tends to even out over the course of time,” Blandino said in an interview on The Drive, a Kansas City sports radio station (KCSP 610 AM).

https://deadspin.com/kansas-city-chiefs-buffalo-bills-shawn-hochuli-nfl-afc-1851176991

The Chiefs are pretty much eight and two in any random 10-game stretch. It's not very good analysis to act like that is a smoking gun when it happens with every single ref crew.

JohnnyV13 01-18-2024 06:44 PM

Well, mahomes career winning percentage is .771

dallaschiefsfan 01-18-2024 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 17345126)
What other sport do we even know the names of the referees? Do we even care outside of the NFL? Other sports commentators never mention the ref by name. It is like they have inserted themselves into the game/storylines.

Baseball. Umpires that call a tight strike zone are well known and get much hate by fans, players, and commentators.

dallaschiefsfan 01-18-2024 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17344901)
Assholes at Deadspin at it again. At least they're not using their power and platform to slander innocent children this time.

If you already think the Kansas City Chiefs get all the calls...
The team is 8-2 when Shawn Hochuli is refereeing — and he'll lead the officiating crew in Buffalo on Sunday


Good news, Chiefs fans. Shawn Hochuli will be the referee for Kansas City’s AFC Divisional round game against the Buffalo Bills.

Hochuli has officiated 10 of Kansas City’s games in the Patrick Mahomes era, with the Chiefs going 8-2 in those contests. In the playoffs, KC is 2-0 with Hochuli reffing.

This season, Hochuli was in charge of officiating two Chiefs games, which were both KC wins over New England and Denver.

While that may appear to be good news for the AFC’s No. 3 seed, it certainly seems to be the opposite for Buffalo.

The Bills were penalized 40 times for 347 yards in the last four games that Hochuli has reffed. That includes this season’s OT loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.

In that one game, Hochuli called Buffalo for 11 penalties — one more than he called against New England in two games. The Bills lost the sixth-most yards under a Hochuli-led crew this year.

“Hochuli is known for calling a penalty-filled game,” wrote Chris Owen for WYRK radio’s website. “He’s also the head official for the Bills game in Philadelphia, where the crew missed an obvious horse-collar tackle on Josh Allen, which likely would have resulted in a red zone touchdown.”

This data doesn’t help the ongoing notion that Kansas City gets most of the calls in its favor. :hmmm: In those two wins with Hochuli and crew officiating, the Chiefs were only hit with nine penalties for 99 yards.

Back in October, Pete Grathoff of the Kansas City Star wrote about two fourth-quarter calls — PI against L’Jarius Sneed, and no flag for him removing his helmet — that fans/viewers believe were “slanted in favor of the Chiefs.”

He says KC doesn’t get any special treatment, because Dean Blandino, the former ref turned Fox Sports rules analyst said so.

“I know that’s a popular narrative around fans who say they’re a successful team, they’re gonna get the call, that stuff tends to even out over the course of time,” Blandino said in an interview on The Drive, a Kansas City sports radio station (KCSP 610 AM).

https://deadspin.com/kansas-city-chiefs-buffalo-bills-shawn-hochuli-nfl-afc-1851176991

NO

Facts are our friends:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh, you want the REAL Impact Penalties?? Here&#39;s the chart with only penalties that shifted the win probability by a whopping 10%!!! <a href="https://t.co/F1ZjTmrogz">https://t.co/F1ZjTmrogz</a> <a href="https://t.co/sWQirRyT9a">pic.twitter.com/sWQirRyT9a</a></p>&mdash; Joseph Hefner (@josephjefe) <a href="https://twitter.com/josephjefe/status/1747694115092128199?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 01-18-2024 08:32 PM

NFL Referee Analysis: Shawn Hochuli’s Impact on Bills vs. Chiefs

Penalty Tendencies:

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Shawn Hochuli’s crew called the fewest defensive pass interference penalties and were tied for the fewest illegal contact penalties in 2023. These numbers contributed to Hochuli calling a below-average 21% of overall penalties on defensive backs this season. Only Brad Rogers and Carl Cheffers called a lower overall percentage on this position group in 2023.

The Bills defense has surrendered approximately 22% more automatic first downs via penalty this season than the Chiefs, but both are above-average penalized units on third down plays

Defensive holding and illegal use of hands are the two penalty categories that make up a higher percentage of defensive penalties with Hochuli officiating.

The Chiefs offense is an elite unit at generating defensive holding calls. They ranked No. 1 in 2022 and are co-ranked No. 1 overall in 2023.

Of the two offenses taking the field on Sunday, it’s this one area that stands out from a penalty perspective in favor of the Chiefs.

The lower percentage of penalties assessed on defensive backs from Hochuli’s crew results in an above-average 11.5% percentage of penalties being called on linebackers. This is an area that potentially provides an advantage to the Chiefs.

The Buffalo linebackers account for a slightly above-average 10% of the team’s overall penalties. Conversely, the Chiefs linebackers are responsible for just 3% of the team’s penalties. That is the lowest percentage of any team in the AFC.

Shawn Hochuli led the NFL in calling roughing the passer penalties this season. This is one category that may be a factor on Sunday. The league wants the quarterbacks protected and to avoid negative publicity from highly publicized no calls, as we saw in the Lions versus Rams game after multiple hits on Mathew Stafford were not called.

Conversely, Shawn Hochuli called the fewest unnecessary roughness penalties this season.

The Buffalo Bills led the NFL in unnecessary roughness penalties in 2023.

The Chiefs and Bills are top-five penalized teams for offensive holding penalties.

Shawn Hochuli has consistently ranked at or near the top of the NFL for offensive holding penalties in his career. He ranks fifth overall in 2023. As we detailed during the introduction, there was a sizable reduction in offensive holding calls last weekend. If that trend continues in the Divisional Round, many of these numbers will be irrelevant.

The Bills are co-leaders for taunting penalties in 2023.

No referee has called more taunting penalties than Shawn Hochuli since he arrived in 2018. The positive for Buffalo here is Hochuli has yet to call a taunting penalty in 2023.

The Chiefs lead the NFL for illegal block in the back penalties in 2023
Shawn Hochuli ranks in the top three of all referees for illegal blocks in the back, dating back to his first season in 2018. In what may be a break for the Chiefs, Hochuli has scaled back in 2023, calling only one penalty in this category.

Offensive offside penalties were a talking point in the aftermath of the Chiefs versus Bills game in Week 14. Shawn Hochuli has never called an offensive offside penalty in his career.

In four playoff games as a head referee, home teams are just 2-2 with Shawn Hochuli and 1-3 ATS. The two home team victories were the Kansas City Chiefs.

There is a familiarity angle for the Chiefs with Hochuli officiating this contest. The volume of games, often big games, that the Chiefs have played with him can’t be dismissed. That is an advantage.

TinyEvel 01-18-2024 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17344901)
Assholes at Deadspin at it again.

If you already think the Kansas City Chiefs get all the calls...
The team is 8-2 when Shawn Hochuli is refereeing

BFD aren’t we close to an 80% win record on average (or close to it) anyways?

Bump 01-18-2024 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 17345266)
BFD aren’t we close to an 80% win record on average (or close to it) anyways?

those silly details don't help deadspins narrative! stop it!

Bump 01-18-2024 09:34 PM

Chiefs win rate without these refs 66-20 = 76.7%

Chiefs win rate with these refs 8-2 = 80%


OMG forget about our top story "that 8 year old kid sure is raycis for wearing team colors to the game"

This is our big break story! The Chiefs win rate, through a much smaller sample size, is 3.3% higher with these refs! Get to writing!

-deadspin

TinyEvel 01-19-2024 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17345315)
Chiefs win rate without these refs 66-20 = 76.7%

Chiefs win rate with these refs 8-2 = 80%


OMG forget about our top story "that 8 year old kid sure is raycis for wearing team colors to the game"

This is our big break story! The Chiefs win rate, through a much smaller sample size, is 3.3% higher with these refs! Get to writing!

-deadspin

Lawyer in Court: "So, the truth is, the Chiefs win rate is higher when these are the refs."

You: "Well, yeah, but only by---"

Lawyer: "IT'S A SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTION. I REMIND YOU, YOU ARE UNDER OATH. IS THE CHIEFS WIN RATE HIGHER WITH THESE REFS?"

YOU: yes.

Lawyer: "Your witness...."

ThyKingdomCome15 01-19-2024 02:53 AM

Good refs, they call it both ways.

Womble 01-19-2024 03:17 AM

Clay has done a fantastic job trolling the Billies.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bills fans are crying about Shawn Hochuli and they should.<br><br>In four games against Josh Allen&#39;s Bills, Hochuli has called 40 penalties for 347 yards.<br><br>You&#39;re fighting Mahomes and the refs this Sunday, Buffalo. <a href="https://t.co/qDuxIc40OJ">pic.twitter.com/qDuxIc40OJ</a></p>&mdash; ��️ Red Tribe Cinema (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/1747364522950578455?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RaidersOftheCellar 01-19-2024 04:47 AM

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RaidersOftheCellar 01-19-2024 04:48 AM

From what I've seen, Bills fans are genuinely pissing their pants over the announcement of the ref crew. LMAO


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