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Was Demarcus Robinson better than I remember? Or was it all PM?
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Was Demarcus Robinson better than I remember? Or was it all PM?
Watching that highlight film of PM and he seems in there a lot?
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Compared to this last year's wide receiver group he's pretty good. |
He was absolute ****ing trash. He's worse than you remember. Dude playing like 75% of the snaps until he got dialed back his last year here and couldn't muster over 264 yards, 13 1st downs, and 3 TDs. Andy really tried to give him an opportunity to break out, but he regressed to absolute trash. He was a decent 3/4 option his 4th and 5th year here, but didn't do much before that and was shit after that.
He had a bunch of talent, but went to shit. |
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He was better than Skyy and Toney. Take that for what it’s worth.
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For a guy who was mostly a 4th option in this offense, I'll take it. |
He actually had a decent season for the Rams this last year. Had a 2 or 3 game run when Kupp was hurt where he put up some solid numbers and looked good. Definitely an upgrade over Van Jefferson.
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I remember when we drafted him and thought "Hey cool, a college receiver from a high powered offense! Maybe he can come in and bring a spark!"
Ah, I was so young and innocent back then. Not to mention smack dab in the middle of thinking Alex Smith could win us a championship. |
He was a good athlete and he was alert in scramble drills, which brought him value. Obviously he was missing some factor that could elevate him into the starting lineup, or the guys in front of him had too much talent. But he's had a longer NFL career than most.
He caught Patrick's first game pass ever if I remember right, and he caught Patrick's 50 TD/5,000 yard pass, so I have fond memories of him. And he'll give us "running backwards" jokes for the rest of our lives, so we'll always remember him. |
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When he threw snowballs before the Broncos game at Arrowhead, Demarcus definitely was more Jackson than Patrick as far as form goes.
As far as football goes, the most impressive thing about Demarcus was how many iconic Mahomes plays he was a part of, despite being a mid WR. Remarkable highlight reel (courtesy of Mahomes mostly), unremarkable wideout. But that is enough to remember fondly.
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D-Rob gets all the escalades just for these.
Outside of the postseason, they are still in my top 10 Mahomes throws. http://i.imgur.com/pvZHfzn.gif https://i.imgur.com/yAMm8tf.gif |
The Chiefs would have gone undefeated last year with Rice and 3 D-Robs. But that's mostly about how pathetic our WR corps was.
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You could make a highlight reel of D Rob plays and convince someone that he’s an All Pro receiver.
You could also make a lowlight reel of D Rob plays and convince someone that he’s one of the worst players ever. |
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I'm also glad he's no longer here. |
Pretty good as a 3/4 WR I reckon but after winning the Super Bowl without him I can't really say we should've resigned him.
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DRob only started in 4 games last season, played in 6-7, I think. Including the playoffs, he caught 29 (targeted 45 times) passes for 415 yards, 23 1st downs, and 4 TDs. And never rose above the 4th receiver.
Basically he was better than every WR for the Chiefs except Rice. He was a better route runner, better at creating separation, better ball tracker, better catcher, better in scramble drills. And he did almost all of that on his own; no manufactured touches like Toney and Skyy. Which is amazing considering that he really was just a very JAG NFL WR for his entire career. Love watching some of those catches of his in those highlights reels though. He made some really nice ones when he was here. |
I thought he was about to take a massive step towards becoming a legit Number 2 receiver after the 28 point 2nd quarter and that game against the Ravens the next week in 2019.
He was great in those two games. |
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Let that sink in. |
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Seemed like he occasionally had a problem with running forward after catching the ball, but I guess nobody's perfect. |
His game against the Raiders was the most memorable for me.
Can't think of much else he did when he wasn't running backwards after catch. |
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I think he was Justin Watson ish?
Better than Skyy right now, but he had zero touches his first year in the league, just played special teams.. so Skyy could still become him? |
The diva metric is going to have to join WR stats. Somehow being a diva is like big tits to NFL fans. DR seemed grounded
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All this does is get me more excited for Worthy
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He was never as bad as people said, which last year proved. Hell, I would have killed to have any version of him last season. He showed he could play with the Rams as well. He’s a very solid player and always has been. He was never going to be more than a 4th option at best, but last I checked you need those guys in this league, too.
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It was maddening watch him make a catch and then run BACKWARDS. Wouldn’t be surprised if his YAC was a negative number.
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First start to his career, and it iced the game against a team we despise.
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The problem with drob was he just didn’t grow much as a player. He made the same dumbass mistakes day 1 as his last game with us. He was great on broken plays when Tyreek and Kelce carried the best part of the defense with them.
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DRob was better than JWat. And it's not that close. Catch%, Success%, YAC/R, TDs per season, just for starters. https://www.pro-football-reference.c...R/RobiDe01.htm JWat https://www.pro-football-reference.c...W/WatsJu01.htm And then DRob's ability to consistently find a soft spot during a scramble drill, especially in the EZ. Mostly though it's just that DRob was always a better WR than JWat, a ST player Andy converted into a WR. DRob had great twitch and athleticism, while JWat is just average in those departments. |
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D-Rob was better than a number of guys we've been watching the last couple years. If nothing else, he had very good chemistry with Mahomes. We know that's not the case at all for some of the other KC receivers lately.
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Is this the same D Rob that would catch a first down only to step backwards two yards get tackled short of the first down? Or am I thinking someone else?
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Another thing that occurs to me is that Mahomes' great plays probably occur disproportionately on third downs. That's when Robinson would get a disproportionate number of snaps, so he's probably overrepresented in the highlights beyond his actual playing time.
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He also only started in 51 of his 130 total games. Basically three seasons. |
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He was garbage. |
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Jeez. Talk about skewing the narrative. Like there was ever a realistic chance DRob was going to be WR2 in KC. Dude was drafted in the 4th round, and didn't get the advantage of running with the 1s for his first two seasons like Skyy and KT. ANd he's still been a more consistent and reliable target. Guess we just don't count the two previous seasons (2019-20) when he went over 400 yards and 7 TDs (4/3)? Or the one right after (2022) with BAL and Lame Jackson with another 400+ yards? Oh, and btw, his catch% was 61% in 2021. Still 7 points better than Skyy last season. DRob has a career 64.2% catch %. Which makes him better at his job than JWat, MVS, Skyy and Ross. And he actually scores TDs. As in more than MVS, Skyy and KT combined in 2023. |
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I said he was a decent 3rd/4th option for those 2 years with us. Im skewing nothing. He was given the opportunity after those 2 decent years to step up and be our #2 WR. Week one he had the 2nd most snaps by WR and played 48 out of 65 snaps. Week 2 - 3rd most (30/51) Week 3 - 2nd most (57/79) Week 4 - 2nd most (45/67) Week 5 - 2nd most (65/86) Week 6 - 2nd most (57/82) Week 7 - Most, more than Tyreek (57/72) That's a lot of snaps to put up a measly 20 targets, 11 receptions, 126 yards, 2 TDs. It's even more pathetic when you see that in 2 of those 7 games he got 92 or 73% of his yards, 10 of his 16 targets, 6 of his 10 receptions, and all of his TDs. So in 5 games playing in over 70% of the total offensive snaps, on one of the most dynamic pass happy teams in league and he barfed out 4 receptions and 32 yards. Over the final 10 games he had a shitty 21 targets, 14 receptions, 131 yds, and 1 TD. If that's not shitting away a golden opportunity and sucking shit, then idk what is. I will say in the Pittsburgh playoff game that year he played really well with 76 yards and he only played 51% of the snaps those game. Andy rewarded him with another chance giving him 64% and 70% of the snaps the next two games. What'd he do with this opportunity? 4 targets, 0 rec, 0 YDs, 0 TDs I'm surprised you like such a shitty WR. |
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Not like he was a favorite. just pointing out that in spite of having a bad season in KC, that season was still better than Skyy's last season. And DRob was a 4th round draft pick, Skyy was a 2nd. For that matter, KT was a 1st rounder. JWat was given an opportunity to be a starting WR last season, and promptly shit the bed. Just based on their stats, DRob was a far better WR than pretty much every WR we had last season, except Rice. Hell, just DRob's season last year was far better than anything our WR room put up, and he only started 4 games. You want to keep saying he was trash, fine. He was 400 yds/season 4 TD scoring trash. Compared to what we fielded last year, we should've kept him and dumped KT/Skyy/Ross/MVS. |
Robinson was 14th WR drafted in 2016 and has outperformed everyone else except for Tyreek Hill, Tyler Boyd, Sterling Shepherd and Michael Thomas.
Has played in postseason 8 straight years and Rams gave him a raise from $1.2 million last year to $4 million this year if he is on roster all year. Robinson is one of those players that helps one identify the fans who do not know shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League from the ones who do. Robinson is a football player who was a gunner on punts and a gunner blocker on punt returns when Tyreek Hill was returning them for TDs. Eight years in league and earned a decent raise from same team for his ninth season. He had one disaster punt return at Saints and a couple negative YAC receptions, but he also had a couple unbelievable YAC plays in 2-minute drill where he made it to sidelines to stop clock and save a timeout. Fans that like watching football but do not know shit about it tend to remember the bad plays and never notice the contributions the player makes. |
DR was a street baller. Ok in structure but actually really good outside structure. For all the drops and weird backwards runs, he was always open in scramble drill. It'd be fun to see him back but if we were to add anyone it probably needs to be someone consistent and reliable
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He was the original Toney. Talented but you were scared to death Pat would throw his way.
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He just ran backwards inexplicably. |
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