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ShowtimeSBMVP 01-13-2013 12:37 PM

Tony Sparano scheduled to interview Monday for OLine Job
 
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Per @mortreport, Tony Sparano is scheduled to interview Monday for the offensive line coach job with Kansas City Chiefs.



Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Tony Sparano set to visit Andy Reid on Monday re: Chiefs O-line job after George Warhop decided to remain with Browns. #NFL32

O.city 01-13-2013 12:37 PM

Interesting.

RealSNR 01-13-2013 12:38 PM

I like it. A lot.

Straight, No Chaser 01-13-2013 12:38 PM

Is that "Sparano" or "Saprano"?

I'd take the latter.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 12:40 PM

Nice to see Patriotards being demoted to their positions of competence.

milkman 01-13-2013 12:41 PM

Anyone consider the fact that our O-Lineman are going to have to get beefier with Reid as HC and Sporano as OL coach?

Rausch 01-13-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9313383)
Anyone consider the fact that our O-Lineman are going to have to get beefier with Reid as HC and Sporano as OL coach?

Albert moved back to G and drafting a LT?...















:Lin:

Titty Meat 01-13-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9313383)
Anyone consider the fact that our O-Lineman are going to have to get beefier with Reid as HC and Sporano as OL coach?

I see what you did there.

DTLB58 01-13-2013 12:43 PM

What happened to Eugene Chung?

Deberg_1990 01-13-2013 12:44 PM

Uh oh....isnt he from the Parcells tree? The root of all things "Patriot Way" ?

milkman 01-13-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9313390)
I see what you did there.

Actually, there was no joke intended there, though I wish I was that clever.

The fact is, both Reid and Sporano are guys that like big, strong, physical O-Lines.

mcaj22 01-13-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9313377)
Nice to see Patriotards being demoted to their positions of competence.

im actually shocked he would come here

must be slim ****ing pickings out there for all the Patriots failures that have truly hit rock bottom

mcaj22 01-13-2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9313403)
Actually, there was no joke intended there, though I wish I was that clever.

The fact is, both Reid and Sporano are guys that like big, strong, physical O-Lines.

Evan Mathis 6'5'' 302 lbs
Todd Herremans 6'6'' 321 lbs
Brandon Albert 6'5'' 315 lbs

two of them are Guards, one has been a cornerstone LT. LOL

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-13-2013 12:51 PM

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Tony Sparano set to visit Andy Reid on Monday re: Chiefs O-line job after George Warhop decided to remain with Browns. #NFL32

cyborgtable 01-13-2013 12:51 PM

His O-lines in Miami were nothing to write home about and our O-line regressed when he became our OC. just my opinion FWIW

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313414)
im actually shocked he would come here

must be slim ****ing pickings out there for all the Patriots failures that have truly hit rock bottom

He's one degree of separation from the Pioli branch.

Plausible deniability.

Rausch 01-13-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9313403)
Actually, there was no joke intended there, though I wish I was that clever.

The fact is, both Reid and Sporano are guys that like big, strong, physical O-Lines.

Reid has neglected the OL for years in Philli.

His belief is that as long as he has a two great T's he's good...

Marty Mac Ver 2.0 01-13-2013 12:54 PM

@SaveOurChiefs: Interesting news on Tony Sparano interviewing for the OL Coach. He's good at that role, overwhelmed by OC and HC duties.

mcaj22 01-13-2013 12:55 PM

neglecting the oline?

thats why Todd Herremans was signed for 17 million and Evan Mathis for 5 years 25 million

yeah I just spend 40 million to neglect the oline, too.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-13-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9313439)
Reid has neglected the OL for years in Philli.

His belief is that as long as he has a two great T's he's good...

They spent high picks on interior lineman, including the Brandon Weeden of guards, Danny Watkins.

milkman 01-13-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313427)
Evan Mathis 6'5'' 302 lbs
Todd Herremans 6'6'' 321 lbs
Brandon Albert 6'5'' 315 lbs

two of them are Guards, one has been a cornerstone LT. LOL

What I'm trying to say is that these guys are not zone scheme types.

They like to try to build lines that dominate physically.

Asomoah and Hudson do not fit that mold at present.

mcaj22 01-13-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9313479)
What I'm trying to say is that these guys are not zone scheme types.

They like to try to build lines that dominate physically.

Asomoah and Hudson do not fit that mold at present.

im agreeing with you.

I'm not going to go full homer and say Albert needs to slide to guard but Jason Peters was a BIG LT for Andy and Jake Long was a 100 ft tall for Tony.

I do think that Hudson is WAY too small for Center under this new regime, and maybe might not even have a spot. To think some of these olineman like Allen, Hudson, etc will be given their spots back is something to think again about. Especially if they start signing/drafting oline, they will come in immediately and compete.

milkman 01-13-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313498)
im agreeing with you.

I'm not going to go full homer and say Albert needs to slide to guard but Jason Peters was a BIG LT for Andy and Jake Long was a 100 ft tall for Tony.

I do think that Hudson is WAY too small for Center under this new regime, and maybe might not even have a spot. To think some of these olineman like Allen, Hudson, etc will be given their spots back is something to think again about. Especially if they start signing/drafting oline, they will come in immediately and compete.

I think Albert will be asked to put some of the weight on that Haley had him take off, and I think both Allen and Asomoah have the frames to add weight as well.

I don't think Hudson does.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:04 PM

I'd rather move Hudson back to LG and draft an actual C.

Marco Polo 01-13-2013 01:04 PM

Ex-Jets OC Tony Sparano will reportedly interview for the Chiefs offensive line coach position.

Before his four-year stint as Dolphins coach and failed one-year gig running the Jets offense, Sparano was a highly regarded offensive line coach with the Cowboys from 2003-2007. If he gets the Chiefs job, it will likely come with the assistant head coach title.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 01:04 PM

You really think Hudson is small? They don't make centers much bigger than this.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PLMVnEp08G...ney+Hudson.jpg

mcaj22 01-13-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9313509)
I think Albert will be asked to put some of the weight on that Haley had him take off, and I think both Allen and Asomoah have the frames to add weight as well.

I don't think Hudson does.

are we changing the scheme again from zone blocking to man blocking? or some sort of power blocking?

Isnt the reason Eric Winston was cut was because hes a one trick pony at zone blocking (and he couldnt pass a physical) but, I am pretty sure he is awful at man blocking.

that is if they were to change the blocking scheme, again.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:07 PM

I kinda hope we stay ZBS, especially with Jamal.

the Talking Can 01-13-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9313515)
Ex-Jets OC Tony Sparano will reportedly interview for the Chiefs offensive line coach position.

Before his four-year stint as Dolphins coach and failed one-year gig running the Jets offense, Sparano was a highly regarded offensive line coach with the Cowboys from 2003-2007. If he gets the Chiefs job, it will likely come with the assistant head coach title.

wonder if that means chilly isn't coming

O.city 01-13-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313520)
are we changing the scheme again from zone blocking to man blocking? or some sort of power blocking?

Isnt the reason Eric Winston was cut was because hes a one trick pony at zone blocking (and he couldnt pass a physical) but, I am pretty sure he is awful at man blocking.

that is if they were to change the blocking scheme, again.

I remember something with a physical, but there was some cap problem there too, IIRC.

It's looking like they should have kept him, cause the right side of their line has been ass this year.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-13-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 9313515)
Ex-Jets OC Tony Sparano will reportedly interview for the Chiefs offensive line coach position.

Before his four-year stint as Dolphins coach and failed one-year gig running the Jets offense, Sparano was a highly regarded offensive line coach with the Cowboys from 2003-2007. If he gets the Chiefs job, it will likely come with the assistant head coach title.



Our WR Coach has that title

milkman 01-13-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313520)
are we changing the scheme again from zone blocking to man blocking? or some sort of power blocking?

Isnt the reason Eric Winston was cut was because hes a one trick pony at zone blocking (and he couldnt pass a physical) but, I am pretty sure he is awful at man blocking.

that is if they were to change the blocking scheme, again.

I would assume, since they are both have just used power schemes, that is what they'd use here.

milkman 01-13-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9313517)
You really think Hudson is small? They don't make centers much bigger than this.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PLMVnEp08G...ney+Hudson.jpg

He weighs 299 lbs.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2013 01:10 PM

I would bet he is bigger than that.

The guy looks a big center to me.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:10 PM

Aren't most centers usually around that size?

The Bad Guy 01-13-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9313536)
wonder if that means chilly isn't coming

Chilly is coming. Childress is going to be the senior offensive assistant.

I was told Chung Thursday night, but he still might be an assistant oline coach.

Sparano is a great line coach. Just excellent. However, he wouldn't be given an assistant HC title. That's already David Culley, the WR coach.

The Bad Guy 01-13-2013 01:12 PM

Chiefs had everything worked out with Warhop, as evidenced by Doug Pederson mentioning him and Childress on the staff during his conference call on Friday.

Shocker that Norv is keeping him.

BigMeatballDave 01-13-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9313514)
I'd rather move Hudson back to LG and draft an actual C.

Definately this

The Bad Guy 01-13-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9313589)
Definately this

Reid likes huge centers. Jamaal Jackson, Kelce, were all bigger centers.

mcaj22 01-13-2013 01:16 PM

Hudson is way too small to play guard under Reid

Todd Herremans and Evan Mathis were ****ing HUGE guards for Reid. both could slide to RT in a pinch

O.city 01-13-2013 01:17 PM

Hudson's right at 300 lbs. Seems like he'd be big enough to play C.

Rausch 01-13-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9313616)
Hudson's right at 300 lbs. Seems like he'd be big enough to play C.

Once healthy he'll be a face-raping center...

the Talking Can 01-13-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9313567)
Chilly is coming. Childress is going to be the senior offensive assistant.

I was told Chung Thursday night, but he still might be an assistant oline coach.

Sparano is a great line coach. Just excellent. However, he wouldn't be given an assistant HC title. That's already David Culley, the WR coach.

cool, thanks

i'm fine with sparano as OL coach...probably his true level in the nfl

ChiefGator 01-13-2013 01:20 PM

Kelce weighs 295, a wee bit lighter than Hudson.

Hoover 01-13-2013 01:22 PM

I don't understand the hard on so many of you have for moving Hudson to G.

He was drafted as a center.

We have invested a 2nd round pick in Jeff Allen and a 3rd round pick in Jon Asamoah to play guard. Now you guys want relegate a 2nd round pick to the bench because he played guard in college?

The Bad Guy 01-13-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 9313628)
Kelce weighs 295, a wee bit lighter than Hudson.

I thought Kelce was a big fat bitch.

Looks a lot bigger than 295.

mcaj22 01-13-2013 01:23 PM

well Jeff Allen is ****ing terrible

so yes no Lilja so someone with actual talent is going to have to replace that hole on the o-line at either guard or center


we will get murdered with Jeff Allen - Hudson - Asomoah as the interior. And Andy Reid wont stand for that

O.city 01-13-2013 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9313637)
I don't understand the hard on so many of you have for moving Hudson to G.

He was drafted as a center.

We have invested a 2nd round pick in Jeff Allen and a 3rd round pick in Jon Asamoah to play guard. Now you guys want relegate a 2nd round pick to the bench because he played guard in college?

Cause he was an all american at guard ?

The Bad Guy 01-13-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9313637)
I don't understand the hard on so many of you have for moving Hudson to G.

He was drafted as a center.

We have invested a 2nd round pick in Jeff Allen and a 3rd round pick in Jon Asamoah to play guard. Now you guys want relegate a 2nd round pick to the bench because he played guard in college?

He played guard basically his entire college career.

He was drafted as a center because of the past regime.

Allen didn't play well, at all, last year. Handing him a starting job is stupid.

Hoover 01-13-2013 01:24 PM

The Chiefs were ****ing terrible, and he was a rookie.

He was rushed into service and it showed.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313639)
well Jeff Allen is ****ing terrible

so yes

I actually forgot that he was a tackle in college and this was his first year at guard, so hopefully he can improve.

mcaj22 01-13-2013 01:24 PM

so we have a college tackle at guard and a college guard at center

do you see how stupid Scooter was.

Andy will right this ship.

chiefzilla1501 01-13-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313611)
Hudson is way too small to play guard under Reid

Todd Herremans and Evan Mathis were ****ing HUGE guards for Reid. both could slide to RT in a pinch

Yeah, what's interesting is that he was projected to play Guard or Center. So I thought that meant he can add weight. But in 2011, he was at 277 lbs., so I have a bad feeling he may be maxed out.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313650)
so we have a college tackle at guard and a college guard at center

do you see how stupid Scooter was.

Andy will right this ship.

And a college guard at LT.

DJ's left nut 01-13-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9313358)
I like it. A lot.

Likewise. Sparano was a great OL coach.

He'd be a hell of a hire and a very experienced set of eyes.

chiefzilla1501 01-13-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313650)
so we have a college tackle at guard and a college guard at center

do you see how stupid Scooter was.

Andy will right this ship.

The offensive line is very good. Pioli did a lot of stupid shit, but you can't be too critical of the o-line. Reid may need to change personnel because of difference in scheme, not because we're short of talent.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:27 PM

One thing about Allen and Hudson is they are still young. Allen was a rookie this year, playing a new position (which was stupid in the first place).

mcaj22 01-13-2013 01:27 PM

some guys are built for the position change and some arent. all part of that evaluation process. they will evaluate it and i will not be surprised if they draft an o-lineman in the 2nd or 3rd round BPA at guard, center or tackle. This place will explode and I will laugh, but the fact is Andy loves drafting in the trenches and there is no tip toeing around that. The guy drafted a 29 year old Canadian Rugby Fireman weirdo bozo guy turned offensive lineman for the sake of thinking he was some hidden gem guard IN THE FIRST ROUND. Think about that for a minute.

Ace Gunner 01-13-2013 01:28 PM

my only complaints about Hudson playing C is that he is short armed and he won't get bigger than 300 (plus change, perhaps).

As a OG I'd say no, that's not a good plan for Hudson. Too compact, not real mobile either.

I'd expect Reid to find interior linemen and roll with the Tackles currently on the roster this first season.

milkman 01-13-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313658)
some guys are built for the position change and some arent. all part of that evaluation process. they will evaluate it and i will not be surprised if they draft an o-lineman in the 2nd or 3rd round BPA at guard, center or tackle. This place will explode and I will laugh, but the fact is Andy loves drafting in the trenches and there is no tip toeing around that. The guy drafted a 29 year old Canadian Rugby Fireman weirdo bozo guy turned offensive lineman for the sake of thinking he was some hidden gem guard IN THE FIRST ROUND. Think about that for a minute.

As long as he doesn't draft a lineman with the #1 overall, I'm good with picking a lineman.

Mr. Laz 01-13-2013 01:32 PM

HC to OL in such a short time

falling like a rock

Fritz88 01-13-2013 01:33 PM

I hope we give up our 1st and get Tebow.

With Tony as our OL coach, I see great Wildcasts with Tebow and #22.

The Bad Guy 01-13-2013 01:34 PM

The other concerning thing is that Sparano and Reid have different blocking schemes.

Sparano likes a power running scheme and Reid is more zone blocking.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:35 PM

Well, we haven't signed him yet, so we shall see.

chiefzilla1501 01-13-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9313686)
The other concerning thing is that Sparano and Reid have different blocking schemes.

Sparano likes a power running scheme and Reid is more zone blocking.


Dorsey's a ZBS guy. Sparano's a power blocking guy. Reid was a power blocking guy under Castillo, a ZBS under Childress.

The Bad Guy 01-13-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9313704)
Dorsey's a ZBS guy. Sparano's a power blocking guy. Reid was a power blocking guy under Castillo, a ZBS under Childress.

I think they are going to stay with a ZBS because that's what this line is suited for.

If so, Sparano is a weird fit.

mcaj22 01-13-2013 01:40 PM

Reid was definitely a power blocking guy this most recent season.

Not saying he wont change based on the current roster, but the Eagles had a big o-line prior to injuries

O.city 01-13-2013 01:41 PM

Would prefer we stay with the ZBS scheme as thats what we are more equipped to do.

milkman 01-13-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9313711)
Reid was definitely a power blocking guy this most recent season.

Not saying he wont change based on the current roster, but the Eagles had a big o-line prior to injuries

By hiring Sutton, Reid showed he has scheme flexibility.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:48 PM

He hired a DC based on the talent fit and scheme he's not used to running, or so it seems. I'd think we'd stick with the ZBS.

chiefzilla1501 01-13-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9313709)
I think they are going to stay with a ZBS because that's what this line is suited for.

If so, Sparano is a weird fit.

A lot of interesting questions. Assuming we go back to Chili's ZBS... Branden Albert fits the Tra Thomas mold. Asamoah fits the Welbourn mold. But Fraley and Runyan were two staples of that Eagles line, and they were absolute beasts. I feel like Hudson will be undersized but can get away with it. Winston's the guy that doesn't seem to fit in any scenario.

O.city 01-13-2013 01:53 PM

Hudsons fundamentals are great, which allows him to make up for being undersized.

MahiMike 01-13-2013 01:54 PM

ah, hell no! I don't want that idiot anywhere near my team.

tredadda 01-13-2013 02:11 PM

I would not mind it if we moved Hudson back to guard and draft (if he is available) that center from Alabama with our 2nd. The guy played 3 positions on the O-Line in college and excelled at all of them. He would be a huge asset on this line. I doubt he will be there when we pick again, but that would be nice.

DaneMcCloud 01-13-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 9313828)
I would not mind it if we moved Hudson back to guard and draft (if he is available) that center from Alabama with our 2nd. The guy played 3 positions on the O-Line in college and excelled at all of them. He would be a huge asset on this line. I doubt he will be there when we pick again, but that would be nice.

:facepalm:

BigMeatballDave 01-13-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9313830)
:facepalm:

You wouldn't want a true C?

Brock 01-13-2013 02:26 PM

They have invested enough draft picks on ol.

DaneMcCloud 01-13-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9313862)
You wouldn't want a true C?

The Chiefs NEED a starting Cornerback. They NEED a starting Safety opposite Berry that can ****ing stay on the field. They NEED a staring ILB next to Derrick Johnson.

EVERY ****ING SCOUT agreed that Hudson was the best center prospect in the 2011 draft. He broke his leg - BFD. He'll be fine in 2013.

Furthermore, it's just ****ing dumb, unless your team is absolutely LOADED at every position, to spend the #34 overall selection on a center.

tk13 01-13-2013 02:29 PM

I'd agree with that. But that's also the catch to turning the whole organization over. Reid and Dorsey aren't going to care how many picks the Chiefs have on the line over the years.

O.city 01-13-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9313899)
I'd agree with that. But that's also the catch to turning the whole organization over. Reid and Dorsey aren't going to care how many picks the Chiefs have on the line over the years.

It should.


That was the problem with Pioli. He came in here and said it's my way or the highway. It doesn't have to be that way. Look at whats here and tweek your scheme to fit what ttalent you have and build on it.


No need to spend more time and picks when not needed.


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