Why the Chiefs need Cowher...
 

No Super Bowl winning coach has ever won the Super Bowl again with a different team. We know this.

We also know the NFL is fixed.

There wouldn't be a bigger story line in the NFL next year than if the Chiefs, who haven't drafted a QB since Todd Blackledge, were to win the Super Bowl, making Cowher, who has been in the broadcast booth, the first coach to win it all with 2 different teams.

Make it happen, Roger!

Do not tease me...

Yeah, but no. If the nfl is fixed KC doesn't have a chance.

Doesn't Cowher want to be a GM/HC type guy?


yuck


Has a GM/HC ever won the super bowl?

Ever heard the name "Bill Bellichick"?

That's a fun conspiracy theory.

If the NFL was really fixed they would have let Vermeil win another SB in KC. WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT STORY BRO.

KC need to get wiped out by an F5 tornado. They'd win the SB the next season lol.

You're an idiot.

I'll take the time to explain why you're an idiot because you need me to. Mostly, regrettably, because after years of trying you haven't figured it out for yourself.

Let me explain...

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Nevermind.

I'm good with **** you. Have an apple...

Ain't happenin htis...

Isn't that the guy that rode Pioli's coat tails to a couple SB titles?

Regardless of what you might think of Cowher as a coach, getting him back in KC is some capacity would be a smart move from a fanbase perspective. Sort of bringing the native son back home type of move.

This

That was the plan, til Peyton Manning.

I'm pretty big on winning and he appears to be good at that...

so more of the 'Patriot Way'


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I'd be good with him coming in, really. I know a lot of you would prefer another Todd Haley type coach that has something to prove. I want a proven winner to bring them back to yearly contention.
I wouldn't mind Cowher or Reid (if he's available) or someone like that.
Someone who has a proven system and can use the current talent on this roster to get the team winning or at least 8-8 in season 1 and playoffs by year 2. Right now we're just wasting guys like Charles and Hali.

The farce is strong with this one.

I'm in full agreement on Cowher.

Toughness needs to be restored in KC.

This team needs an identity - Under Cowher our defense would provide the team the attitude it is currently lacking.

Cowher has roots in KC, would be a great way to tie things back to the great KC defenses of the past.

Despite how we look on the field, this team can win now with a real QB and a HC who can inspire and lead. KC is a hell of a lot better positioned for the future than Chicago is.

Really want this to happen.

I think this place would explode if that did happen. We all know who the next coach is going to be anyway.

Kurt Shottenheimer ftw!

after being in the media booth, is Cowher still 'tough'?

Bubby Brister for QBs coach!

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You don't think his teams would be tough? I do. That's his style of football.

There are some failed QBs that make pretty outstanding QB coaches.

Hell, Chris Weinke is probably the very best at preparing the young QBs getting ready for the draft.

And a big reason that Andrew Luck is what he is, is because of his dad.

Oops....i meant Mike Tomczak!

personally I don't want him.

this franchise needs an enema.

This is why I killed your mom's dog.

There.

I said it.

It's out there...

i don't know ... just a point of consideration.


Most of the time it seems to me that once players/coaches move on they're not the same when they come back.

Like Parcells, or DV, or Marty (who won more playoff games AFTER KC.)

One side of this whole new coach thing, that I believe will play a big roll is winning. Thats probably the biggest role.

But a close second is going to be getting/bringing the fanbase back to what it was in teh 90's. If Clark wants to make a shitload of money, which I'm absolutely sure he does, winning and having a front office open to the fanbase is the best way to do that.

And extending on that, winning in the playoffs and actually making some noise is an even bigger way.

So, I'm gonna start by bringing in a new GM and HC who are willing to work together, I'm drafting a QB first overall to build around, and I'm gong from there.

I know you have always like Cowher and i don't hate him

just don't know that 'going back' has such a high % rate


I don't like the GM/HC idea either

i prefer everyone to have 1 job and focus on that

I would be down for Cowher.
Who doesn't like that grimace his face gives?

We aren't "going back."

He was a DC here for 2 years...

Marty went Ofer in the playoffs in San Diego.

anything with this much money involved is going to be swayed a little, don't ya think?

Yep.

I stand corrected...

Yep. he was 0-2 in two playoff games with the Bolts.

Martys last "NFL" playoff win was Jan 94 with Montana. ROFL

That seems to be the dominant opinion.

Me, I want something more.

I'd gladly trade two decades of 2-win seasons for one Super Bowl.

I lose one Marty and gain a Coughlin...

It's still predominantly nostalgia that's fueling the "Cowher to KC" fires...

So he can turn Geno into Cordell Stewart?

We've already traded our two decades.

I don't have two decades...

I hate Marty.

Everyone knows that.

But I believe that he was a far better coach than Tony Dungy ever was, and paired with Peyton Manning in that Indy situation, I believe he would have won at least SBs and shed the choker tag that hangs around his neck.

I could get behind Cowher with Geno Smith at QB.

No one mentioned Chan...

Kordell Stewart and Geno Smith are not even remotely similar.

But you said COWHER + BLACK QB and we know what that means.

Wait, isn't that how we're doing this now?...

It seems the best chance to win a SB, is to consistently put yourself in a chance to get there.

I know Marty, while in KC, consistently won in the RS, but sputtered int he playoffs.

But he consistently put us in a position where we could have a chance to get there. He just didn't really learn from the reason he kept falling short.

Look at the Pats, Packers, Steelers, Ravens etc, the upper echelon teams. They don't win SB's every year, but they always put themselves ina position to win.

Thats what I want. I want someone who will consistently put us in a spot to win in teh playoffs. A reason I want Cowher, is that this is a unique situation in that who ever comes in here is pretty much going to be forced to build around a QB we draft first overall. It's likely not going to be an option, or hopefully not going to be an option, to win without one.

You youngsters missed the 1st and 4th superbowl. The one win was sweet.

This is my reason for Cowher, like I just stated, he hopefully isn't going to have a choice to roll with a slapdick at QB.

I'd take Cowher in a second. This team needs a coach with a brand who is a proven winner. I'd also like a GM who has done it before and had success. Let the Coach and GM who know what they're doing - build a team and coach the young guys and QBOTF. Looking back - there were just too many unknowns in the equation. The year KC finished 10-6 under Pioli, Weis and Crennel were known variables. Just my take...

I know Milkman - I'm a DUMBASS...

There you go.

Now, how do you get to the playoffs?

1)Solid D.
2)Franchise QB.

Who wins SB's?

Teams that have a franchise QB and solid D...

It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then. :p

At least he's done it...

No, he's saying that Billichick was GM/HC. So was Jimmy Johnson.

Yeah, but just about every year they were a contender.

Cowher would bring instant respect, credibility and accountability to that locker room.

If he was available, would you guys take Baltimore Harbaugh?

You know we all bitch about how Romeos defense wastes the talents of our players on d? Bill Cowhers defense fits our talent PERFECTLY. how about them not giving full effort? BCs players ran through walls for him.

"Kordell Stewart"

Well, BC won a ****ton of games with him and once he got a legit qb, his team was nearly unstoppable and Tomlin has been winning with BCs players the last 7 years.

You know what would be perfect?

Bill is brought in as HC and hires Gailey or Wisenhunt as his OC....hell I'd be happy with Norv as his OC, too.

If it is in fact Cowher as the HC, who does he bring in as a DC?


Just googled Cowher, was gonna do a little research. 3 of the first four were about rumors to the Chiefs.

He might be able to convince the Steelers to let him have Keith Butler. That would make this defense scary as shit, but I've heard he is in line to replace Dick when he retires. If that's the case, I hope Ron Rivera or Rex Ryan shake loose.

I'm big on Rex, I loved his defenses in Baltimore.

Yeah, i like this post.

I would love Rivera as DC, and I could live with Rex as long as the organization muzzles his dumbass mouth.

Cowher at HC, Wiz at OC, Rex at DC, Trent Dilfer as QB coach.

Both are 34 guys, IIRC.

Plus, I kinda like what Rex would bring to the defense in terms of swagger and nastiness.

So Marty needs a QB with enough skill (and sack) to control a game plan from the field..

How would you feel about this Milk?

It would instantly bring cred to the franchise, and sell tickets.

I think what he needed was a QB that he trusted fully with the ball in his hands.

I don't believe he ever trusted any of his QBs in critical situations, other than Montana, so he went into full play not to lose mode.

I think Manning needed a HC that took some of the control of the game out of his hands.

I believe that Marty and Manning would have been the perfect marriage of chokers to eliminate the choking.

Two negatives make a positive, so to speak.

I am not big on Whisenhunt, and Dilfer would most likely never leave his sweet ESPN gig to coach.

Eh, I just threw Dilfer in there for laughs, I don't give a shit abou tthe QB coach.

until/unless we lost then it would be 'the game has past him by ...'

'he's too old school and doesn't understand the young athletes ...'

FWIW, Cowher's Steelers never had a top 5 pick in the draft. They only had one top 10 pick in the draft (Plaxico Burress with #8 in 2000) and that was a year when the first three QBs taken were Chad Pennington (#18), Giovanni Carmazzi (3rd round), and Chris Redman (3rd round).

The year he took over the Steelers, he inherited Neil O'Donnell and the only first round QB taken that year in the draft was Tommy Maddox (#25).

They finally got Rothlisberger at #11 in 2004, thirteen years into Cowher's tenure.

I had no idea how horrible Cowher's QB opportunities were for most of his coaching stint.

Geno Smith isn't gay?

Barry Foster for RBs coach!

We don't and it would probably be a bad move at this point.

The Chiefs need Cowher because they have no Coach.
he's an Upgrade.

I think Rivera uses a 40 front, similar to the 46 they used to run with the Bears.

So is Alex Smith. Let's get both.

whatever it takes to get on the right track, i'm game.