***Senior Bowl Week***
 

South Roster
North Roster

Update the OP when the official measurables are done tomorrow.


I'm looking forward to watching that DB group.

Woulda been nice to see Geno play, but still should be good.

Missouri Southern gets someone on the board but not Missouri State. LOLZ.

Oh, and some guy named Al Saunders is calling offense for the North team.

Senior Bowl practice is on at 3:00 - 4:00 PM CST on the NFL Network.

Also practie being shown Tuesday through Thursday at 1:00 PM. The actual Senior Bowl is on Saturday at 3 PM CST on NFL Network.

Eight offensive players to watch in the Senior Bowl

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...nior-Bowl.html

Now that the Conference Championship Games are completed and the Super Bowl is right around the corner, the scouting world turns their attention to Mobile, Alabama for this year’s edition of the Senior Bowl. This past weekend all the invited players arrived in Mobile, so that on Monday they can go through the first padded practices in preparation for Saturday’s Senior Bowl Game. More than 1000 NFL personnel will be in Mobile watching every rep of practice closely. Below we give a short synopsis of eight offensive players NFL teams are excited to watch this week.

1. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse (6020, 228 and 5.05): Already rising up draft boards, NFL personnel are excited to see Nassib matched up with the best senior talent in the country. Quick and athletic to avoid pressure, re-set and make accurate throws, Nassib has NFL teams intrigued. After charting out Nassib in five games we consider him to be the best quarterback in the 2013 NFL Draft and worth drafting with the first overall pick, so we are excited to see how he does in Mobile. Blessed with a strong arm, the ball bursts out of his hand and he can make 15+ yard throws with zip even when a defender is about to hit him and he cannot stride into his throw. Having played in the Big East where the defenses are not the same caliber as the SEC and some of the other conferences, NFL teams are interested to see how he does against top defenders. The big thing that Nassib must work on is his deep passing as he tends to put too much air under his throws which forces his receivers to slow up and wait for the ball. This allows the defensive back to close and make a play on the ball. He could be the story of Mobile if he has a strong week and begins climbing up into the high first round

2. Mike Glennon, QB, N.C. State (6072, 225 and 5.15 E): Perhaps the quarterback that has NFL evaluators the most split, Glennon gets a chance to prove he should be a first round pick. With a cannon arm and flashes of excellent accuracy, Glennon’s upside is what has many NFL teams excited. However, inconsistent accuracy, production and too many interceptions are a big red flag. A big week could put Glennon in position to be the 1st QB drafted, although we do not rate him as a first rounder. As I spoke to NFL personnel people in recent weeks, many told me that on film Glennon reminds them of Falcons’ QB Matt Ryan when he was at Boston College.

3. Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas (6016, 210 and 4.85): A breakout 2011 season had many, including us, expecting Wilson to improve in 2012, finish his career on a high note and challenge to be the first QB selected. However, Wilson had trouble producing at the same level with a new head coach and offensive system. Still an accurate passer with the quick release and arm strength to make every NFL throw, Wilson has all the physical tools except the ideal height to be a high end NFL QB. Breaking down the 2012 film, it looks as though Wilson struggles to consistently read the defense while going through progressions which led to him throwing passes that safeties were consistently able to close and make plays on. A big week could vault Wilson to the top of the QB rankings.

4. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson (5093, 195 and 4.45 E): A dynamic play-maker with excellent open field running skills, Ellington needs to prove he is worthy of a high draft pick despite his lack of good size. Naturally instinctive with good vision/instincts, he finds creases/holes and has the explosive cutting ability to get to and through it in a flash. Soft, natural hands and good receiving skills make him a valuable receiver from both a running back and slot receiver alignment. In today’s NFL, players who can catch passes and make big plays from different alignments have tremendous value. Ellington needs to show NFL teams that he can be that versatile weapon in order to justify being a second round pick.

5. Denard Robinson, WR, Michigan (6000 E, 196 E and 4.40 E): After an outstanding career as a run first QB at Michigan, Robinson now has to prove he has the hands and receiving skills to make the conversion to receiver and possibly third down back. Even though he lined up as a receiver and running back at times, he did not do it enough to convince teams he can become a starter in the NFL. Additionally, NFL teams want to get a close look at him to try and determine if he has the frame to be a durable NFL player. The big question in my mind is whether Denard will become the next Antwaan Randle-El or Eric Crouch?

6. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice (6050 E, 255 E and 4.65 E): As tight ends like Rob Gronkowski and Jimmy Graham are in more demand, the search for big play, receiving tight ends never ends and McDonald has the physical tools to warrant inclusion in that group. A tall and versatile offensive weapon, McDonald has made big plays catching passes from different alignments. While his offensive production does not compare with some of the top tight ends in the country, his combination of size, athleticism, speed and hands is better than most. This game gives McDonald a similar opportunity to the one that Jimmy Graham had when he came to the Senior Bowl viewed as a raw, but very gifted prospect.

7. Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia (6051, 315 and 5.15 E): Although not one of the big names that the media has been hyping as a first round pick all season, Aboushi comes to Mobile with an opportunity to secure a spot in the opening round. With good height and solid build, Aboushi looks the part of an NFL OT “on the hoof.” When his size combines with his smooth athleticism, good technique and competitiveness, he has all the tools to be a good starting left tackle in the NFL. Additionally, Aboushi brings his “hard hat” to the field every day and displays the take no prisoners attitude that I expect from an OT who grew up in Brooklyn, NY.

8. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan (6071, 297 and 4.95 E): Perhaps the player in position to make the most money at the Senior Bowl, I believe Fisher will play so well that he will secure a spot in the top ten. When Jake Matthews and Taylor Lewan choose to return to school for their senior season, Fisher was given the opportunity to jump up and claim the spot as the number two OT. Possessing excellent height and long arms, Fisher has rare athleticism for a 6’7 OT. He makes it look easy sliding out to protect the corner vs edge rushers, can re-direct and slide in the other direction to handle quick pass rush moves back underneath and is outstanding pulling and adjusting to block out in space. Considered a better OT prospect than former Central Michigan OT Joe Staley, Fisher could lock up a spot in the top ten with a dominating week in Mobile.

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I hope that doesn't conflict with the exciting Pro-Bowl.

@dpbrugler #texasAM WR Ryan Swope with 8 1/8 hands, smallest of WR group. #Michigan WR Denard Robinson the biggest at 10.

Tyler Wilson IS indeed 6'2.

Given his size and skill set, I'm surprised more people aren't talking about EJ Manuel.

He fits the "flavor of the week" profile like a glove.

Here are the South measurements.

http://www.nfldraft101.com/draft/art...asurements.jsp


Here are the North measurements.

http://www.nfldraft101.com/draft/art...rth_Roster.jsp

Wow, Fluker is 6-4, 355?

Geno is gutless.

Nassib is my favorite.

Because he's a terrible QB. He's big and can run. That's about it. Worse than Terrell Pryor, and Terrell Pryor is dogshit.

DaKCMan AP's Senior Bowl Watch List (I purposefully left off OL... watch 'em all)

8 Tyler Wilson QB 6'2" 218 Arkansas
33 Stepfan Taylor RB 5'11" 215 Stanford (I like other RBs but they'll be drafted earlier than we need to spend a pick on RB)
11 Cobi Hamilton WR 6'2" 209 Arkansas
4 Quinton Patton WR 6'2" 195 Louisiana Tech
25 Ryan Swope WR 6'0" 206 Texas A&M
2 Terrance Williams WR 6'2" 205 Baylor
81 Mychal Rivera TE 6'3" 244 Tennessee
35 Nico Johnson LB 6'2" 245 Alabama
10 Sean Porter LB 6'2" 230 Texas A&M
44 Chase Thomas LB 6'4" 248 Stanford
1 Vince Williams LB 6'1" 250 Florida State
29 Sanders Commings DB 6'2" 216 Georgia
37 Robert Lester DB 6'2" 212 Alabama
2 Leon McFadden DB 5'10" 190 San Diego State
18 Bacarri Rambo DB 6'0" 210 Georgia

7 Zac Dysert QB 6'3" 228 Miami OH
12 Ryan Nassib QB 6'2" 228 Syracuse (not a fan from what I've seen of Nassib.. but I'll watch again)
16 Denard Robinson WR 5'11" 197 Michigan
93 Kawann Short DL 6'3" 315 Purdue
92 Sylvester Williams DL 6'3" 320 North Carolina
48 Kevin Reddick LB 6'2" 240 North Carolina
7 TJ McDonald DB 6'2" 205 USC
14 Jordan Poyer DB 5'11" 190 Oregon State
21 Jamar Taylor DB 5'11" 196 Boise State
6 Desmond Trufant DB 6'0" 186 Washington
4 Duke Williams DB 6'1" 200 Nevada

My thing with Nassib, is that he didn't start to really become successful this year and win games, until they made him into a game manager.

Thinking maybe Zac Dysert will be a QB with some value and good upside, just don't know what round he will be drafted? Will be interested in seeing him play,,,

What round is Cobi Hamilton projected to go in?

He measured really small today, also read he didn't have a good day.


Not sure where he's projected.

Chiefs visited with 3 players today:

LB Zavier Gooden
LB Vince Williams
OT Xavier Nixon

Interesting

Zaviar Gooden

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Vince Williams -this kid looks really good

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Xavier Nixon- 6'6" 315 lbs looks like we're going with the big guys on the OL

http://draftbreakdown.com/wp-content...ey-239x300.jpg

IIRC, Gooden would be an OLB?

No idea but Vince Williams looks awesome. Not sure what round he will go in though.

I can't find anything on Vince Williams.

what do people think about swope?

is he a jordy nelson type talent or just a guy?

http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2013weighin.php

N.C. State quarterback Mike Glennon (6-6, 220) is extremely thin and undefined. People have made fun of Peyton Manning for a less-than-impressive body over the years, so Glennon doesn't exactly need to be a specimen. However he could use some more muscle on his frame to protect himself from injury. Glennon looks like he's put in a concerted effort to avoid the weight room.

Short of a UNICEF reference, that's pretty cold. LMAO

JAG


No thanks. We have enough of those.

Wow didn't know Glennon was only 4 foot 6" without his neck. Thats interesting.

RGIII too.

Bummed AJ Klein turned down his invite to play here, and that Jake Knott is still rehabbing his shoulder.

No, he wasn't elidgible.

http://www.redskinshogheaven.com/201...-prevails.html

Klein was badass in the east-west shrine game. He was the second best player there...

Haha, I thought the same thing.

Glad I saw this. I updated the Workout/Met thread with this. Thanks!

If you happen to catch any other interviews we have this week, do me a favor and throw them in there as well, and I'll add 'em to the list.

Nfl.coms recap show sucks. 15 min of commercials and a 5 minute interview with Arians. Show the prospects!

Yeah, NFLN has become mostly commercials and teasers. Very little actual content.

BJ Kissel ‏@bkissel7
A bad picture of Reid & Dorsey. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBOo5w0CQAAnTWD.jpg:large

Chiefs meet with North Carolina DT Sylvester Williams and Colorado TE Nick Kasa.

NFL Network said we also paid really close attention to John Jenkins too.

Good to see they are scouting the big uglies. I think our DL needs so much work.

Where is Williams projected to go?

Obviously you can't see everything when you watch these practices but, they usually show some good stuff. There is no where to hide in the one on one drills and they are what I invest the most in. Keep in mind this only what I see and I'm no expert LOL


North Practice #1 (January 21, 2013)

Pre-practice Notes

Mayock and Charles Davis called out Geno Smith, Montee Ball, and Kenny Vaccaro for skipping the Senior Bowl. None of them are injured so he felt like they should have all been there. All of the other top senior QBs, RBs, and S were there. Mayock said Geno was mistaken if he thinks he is a top 10 lock right now. For what it's worth, Charles Davis concurred and said he sat next to a high ranking executive on his flight to Mobile who said the exact same thing.

Offense

Mike Glennon, QB, NC State looked great throwing the ball. He definately looked the best out the bunch. His throwing motion, footwork, and form are perfect. He throws tight spirals. He can throw a 30 yard pass across the field from the back hash on a dime in drills. He had the best control of the huddle and he was also the tallest guy in the huddle (including the o-linemen). He is sneaky elusive like in the pocket and looks almost exactly like Flacco when he is playing. When he is just walking around and getting a cup of water, he looks really awkward. He makes me think of Big Bird and doesn't look like an athlete at all. The thing is that he's really inconsistant. He overthrew a wide open WR by like ten yards and it was picked. He seems like he's kind of a spaz back there and he panics a little. He seemed very stressed out and maybe he just had the first day jitters. Mayock thinks he's a combination of Joe Flacco and Ryan Mallet. When I just watch him in the pocket, I agree with that but, when I watch where the ball goes, he's not even close to those guys. He's not calm like Flacco and you can see it when you watch his passes. It seems like this would be hard to fix. Again, maybe he was just nervous.

Mayock compared Nassib, QB, Syracuse to Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins. Said he was more athletic than you would think. He said he expects his stock to rise in the next few months. They didn't show much of him or Dysert, QB, Miami of Ohio. He did commend both of them for playing well in the big games. He said USC was to big of a game for Syracuse but, it wasn't for Nassib. Said he stood in there and played tough. He said the same thing about Dysert vs. Ohio State. Hopefully they will show more of them in the other practices...

Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State seemed to catch evrything with his body. He can get open and runs great routes but, I worry about the catching.

Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall is big at 6'2" and kind of looks like Bowe out there. He's not the fastest guy in the world but he caught the ball with his hands and ran good routes.

Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State looks like a RB playing WR. He's like 6'1 228 lbs. Like Wheaton, he caught the ball with his body and ran kind of sloppy routes.

Maquize Goodwin, WR, Texas is 5'9" and weighs 177 lbs. I guess he ran track for the Olympic team and finished 10th in his event. He is blazing fast and I mean he has elite speed. He out ran one of Glennon's passes and Glennon has a really strong arm. He was quick off the line and gets open consistantly on go routes. He caught the ball confidently with his hands. He might be toast if a CB got their hands on him but, that didn't happen. I hope to see him as a returner and I have a feeling he could be a stud there. He reminds me of Jerome Lewis that used to play for the Ravens. He might be able to play a part time slot role like TY Hilton does for Indy...

I didn't see Aaron Mellette, WR, Elon or Denard Robinson, WR/QB, Michigan at all.

Honestly, I was more impressed with some of the WRs I watched in the East-West Shrine Game than this bunch.

Kyle Long, OT, Oregon stand 6'7 and weighs 312 lbs. He's a monster and is Howie Long's son. He really struggled against everyone at OT. When they moved him to guard, he was great. He can get up quick for such a big guy. He just doesn't have the best feet. I think he will definately be a guard in the pros.

Hugh Thorton, OG, Illinois had a bad day. He got whipped every time they showed him.

Robbie Rouse, RB, Fresno State stands 5'7" and weighs 195 lbs. He's a rock and looks like a minature version of MJD if you can imagine that. He is quick, agile, and cuts extremely well. He also excels at catching balls out the backfield. I liked him. He's a lot like Utah State running back Kerwin Williams who played at the East-West Shrine Game. It's close but, I like Williams a little better because he can block.

They didn't show much of the TEs...




Defense

John Simon, MLB, Ohio State was really the only LBer that they showed. He has a high motor, is a tough guy, and a solid tackler. He struggles in coverage and would probably be about like Belcher was. He's strong as hell and had really good push in one on one drills with the o-linemen. He kind of reminds me of Zach Thomas. He is a little taller than Thomas but he plays just like him. He would fit our system perfectly and has some potential imo.

Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State is a smaller type of corner at 5'11" and 196 lbs. He's a scrappy little guy and I liked that. He seems to play a little too far off of receivers and his back peddle wasn't clean. His feet are a big red flag imo. He doesn't have fast feet. Maybe he just had a bad day but he struggled out there.

Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State is a smaller guy like Taylor. Mayock was high on this guy and liked him as a playmaker. He held on every play and I wasn't impressed. He would have been penalized if it were a game.


Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington played with a lot of swagger. He definately has a mouth. He looks like a slightly taller version of Terrance Newman out there. He plays very fast and had really tight coverage. Like Poyer, he had his hands all over people which made me a little nervous. He would have been called for pass interference. I think he will come around and I really liked him. He really stood out in a good way. He's very fast and we might be able to get him like we got Flowers in the second round. IF, he doesn't sneak into the first.

Note that Mayock said all of these guys were best when giving a push at the line. They didn't do any of that in the practice.

Phillp , S, Fresno State is a big boy. He stands 6'1 and weighs 215 lbs. but, he looks and plays bigger than that imo. I think he could play either safety position. He struggled a little in man coverage and wasn't as quick as I would have liked but, he is a safety after all. He does seem to have good straight line speed but, he struggled with cuts. He looks like he could knock the shit out of people but, we'll see. I liked him. As a side note, Mayock talked about TJ McDonald's dad coaching him at Fresno State as the secondary coach. I thought that was interesting.

Duke Williams, S, Nevada really got exposed. He looks like a big safety but, he just can't seem to get his head around and would have been called for pass interference a couple of times. He struggled bigtime in man coverage against the running backs.

Alex Okafor, DE, Texas was a stud. He really looked good on the one on one drills and has a high motor.

Datone Jones, DE, UCLA was the fastest DE of the bunch. He is extremely fast off the line and was the best speed rusher. He is 6'4" and weighs 275 lbs. He looks like a poor man's JPP.

Kewann Short, DT, Purdue looked really good. He had a high motor and probably had the most push out of everyone. He is really strong and the first round seems possible. I bet he could play DE in the 3-4.

Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern had a great day. He is almost an exact clone of Short. He's also strong and gets a lot of push. He's a bit raw but, will be a baller imo.

The Good

Eric Fischer, OT, Central Michigan weighs 307 lbs. and stands 6'7". He was a man among boys. The only comparison I think of is the year Von Miller went to the Senior Bowl. It was that obvious. Mayock compared him to Joe Staley but, I think he's better. He had the best footwork I have seen in a prospect in years and his form was impeccable. He completely dominated everyone. He is so clean looking out there that it's crazy. He reminds me of Tony Boselli. He's a top 10 lock imo.

The Bad

I liked Margus Hunt, DE, SMU going into this thing but, let me tell you, he was horrible. He looks like a perfect fit for our defense but, he can't beat one blocker let alone occupy two. He was really just out of his league. You could tell he hasn't played long and he was pancaked on one on one drills twice.... it was that bad...

Nick Cave, C, Notre Dame was another guy I really liked going into this. He was the worst o-linemen by a mile. He only played center and had no push at all. He got knocked on his back twice. Short and Williams just embarrassed him.

Maybe they will do better as the week goes on...

Suprise Players

David Quessenberry, C/G, San Jose State is big at 6'6" 295 lbs. He was kicking ass all day at both center and guard. He pancaked Hunt, Jones, and Buchanan. This guy is the real deal and he held his own against everyone. His stock went up for sure.

Brian Winter, OT, Kent State stands 6'5" and weighs 310 lbs. He was my favorite player of the day. He is mean, nasty, and he has a bad attitude. He just let it all hang out and he didn't seem to care about making friends. He ripped William's helmet off and absolutely owned him. He stood his ground with everyone and didn't seem to give a shit what the scouts thought about him. He looks like he hasn't shaved in a week and is just an old school player. He reminds me of John Runyan. He's got a serious mean streak and I love this guy. I think Reid will too. His stock went way up imo.

Plays of the Day

TJ McDonald, S, USC had a really nice pick. He covered a lot of ground and made a diving pick off of the pass that Glennon overthrew. That's really the only time I saw him. Maybe we will see more of him tomorrow. Mayock noted that his dad is the former 49er Tim McDonald so he comes from good stock. There are a ton of former players kids in this class. It's really pretty crazy.

Duke Williams, S, Nevada got smoked by Kyle Juszczyck, FB, Harvard on a one on one coverage drill. he got mad and chased him down and punched the ball out of his hands from behind causing a fumble on the 2 yard line. LOL

I'll try and post another report tommorrow.

You need to post the link as well. Thanks for the update.

It's not an article. It's his own take from watching the practices.

Who the **** is Nick Cave from Notre Dame? I'm assuming that you mean Braxston Cave.

I loved that dude in "Raising Arizona".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ork_City_2.jpg

"The Mercy Seat" is a pretty good song.

BTW, Bobbozo, I have seen almost all of Wheaton's games and he is most definitely not a body catcher. I have no idea where you got that from.

nice job noob

One guy that I've been really impressed with Datone Jones out of UCLA. He's been simply owning any of the linemen he's been facing in practice and has an extremely quick first step.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2013/1/...t-datone-jones

The problem is that the Chiefs would have to take him with their 2nd (assuming he makes it past Baltimore or New England) and the Chiefs probably have bigger needs at that point than a pass rushing DE (though they have jack and shit in the department currently).

Is he big enough to play the 3/5tech?

6'4" 280

Plus everyone is saying he should be able to add 10 - 20 pounds of muscle.

There's so much DL talent early. I think we're going to take one in the 2nd round. Sylvester Williams is a guy I would love at 34.

****. Yes.

Have they listed his arm length per chance?

32 1/8"

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631952

Solid.

. Would be crazy if he, Floyd, Rhodes, and Austin were all still on the board when we pick at 34.

Evidently we have some scouts at the Senior Bowl.

http://www.nfl.com/photos/0ap1000000...p2000000129822

What would be even crazier is if one of those were available when we pick in the 3rd round.

I think then it would be a no-brainer. If they are all available in the 2nd or 3rd, there are going to be some fun discussions going on in the KC War Room.

I think in the second, you probably take the best CB available, unless of course something crazy happened and Floyd or one of the top notch DT's were to fall.

IMO, we have to come out of this draft with starters at QB, CB, and ILB/DE.

It's interesting that Reid is sitting off to the side while Dorsey and the scouts pow-wow.

One guy i'm interested in seeing what happens to is Arthur Brown from Kstate.


IMO, he would fit pretty nicely next to DJ.

He'd be a great 2nd round pick as well. Fast, can cover/play all 3 downs IIRC.

Yeah, he's a little undersized, IIRC, but he's pretty fearless and can cover. I tend to think undersized in there that can cover > oversized that can't run.

:grovel:

Would Floyd play the 3 or 5 tech?

Both.

It would depend on what do with Poe in base fronts, but it could look like Poe(3-tech) Powe/Ratliff if released(NT) and Floyd at the 5-tech in our new 3-4 (assuming it is more 1-gap and like Houston's) We could play a 2-gap hybrid ala the Ravens/Jets which would put our DEs in a 4-tech in our odd front (most familiar looking 3-4 package)

You could also put Poe at NT and have Floyd play the 5 or 3. Additionally, our sub package is going to put Poe at NT IMO and Floyd replacing Bailey/Jackson at the 3 tech.

Thanks.


Wouldn't be upset if one of those UGA big ugglies were hanging around int he third round if we grabbed one.

I think he can play either. He's 6'3 300 and very athletic. Good against run & can collapse the pocket & penetrate on pass plays. He's probably *best* utilized playing 1-gap.

The ultimate bachelor bringing the logic.

Me gusta.

TBH, I don't really want to just get "big" upfront. I would rather go with a guy who might be a little on the small side, who's extremely athletic and high motor.


Enough with this stack and shed big strong football player bullshit.

It is fine to have a few players on the roster like that but IMO, it is a poor philosophy to start players like that/emphasize your defensive scheme around that.


In other news, I'm still super pissed off about the Cards ****ing us over on getting Ray Horton. I saw a guy in a Cards shirt today and thought about how awesome our D would be from just 1 year of Ray Horton. **** the Cardinals.

We built our d around "big strong football players". It was bullshit.


And yeah, I was on the Horton bandwagon, big time.

We were so close to having him come here and supposedly, he wanted to.


**** Arizona. I hope they get plagued with a worse version of Skelton in this draft.

Yep.


Side not about the SR bowl, Margus Hunt is said to be having an awful week. Maybe he falls?

I think he does. He's been getting worked over from the little I've seen and the lot I've read.

There are like 4 or 5 3-4 1 gap DEs that seem solid in this draft. However, the majority of them all fall in the late first category. Hopefully we can snag at least one of them.

Would you take one of them over one of the CB's, some with a first round grade available in the second?


I think I would go DE. I'm hoping we spend a little in free agency to bring in a CB. Shields, Talib etc.