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RunKC 10-07-2012 05:41 PM

Fans should put this on Clark, not Pioli.
 
This is all on Clark now. The ball is in his court. Everyone in the town, and NFL, knows that Scott Pioli has done a terrible job. This team is very similar to the 2008 team. Actually, it's worse than 2008. Not only is the on field product terrible, but now management is a laughingstock and nobody wants to come here to work.

Clark has not spoken yet this season and probably won't, which would be a mistake. Personally as a fan I want him to speak during the bye and say that he isn't happy. That will at least show us that he cares.

Either way, it's no longer Pioli I'm looking at for answers: it's Clark.

This is going to be an interesting offseason guys. Changes will be made, but will the one right change be made?

We're going to find out if Clark really is like his father. Things are basically at rock bottom, but if Clark shows the same loyalty to Pioli that his father did to King Carl things are going to get worse. All hell is going to break loose.

notorious 10-07-2012 05:41 PM

It's both.

Reerun_KC 10-07-2012 05:41 PM

Clark is immune, he can whack Pioli and save face.

Pioli is done.

Discuss Thrower 10-07-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8989535)
Clark is immune, he can whack Pioli and save face.

Pioli is done.

Why hasn't he commented publicly?

chiefzilla1501 10-07-2012 05:43 PM

i'm not terribly upset at Clark.

He hired a very highly sought after GM. The GM gave him very specific demands and Hunt gave him that.

I'm not going to blame a guy for shooting big and failing.

Hunt can fix this thing by just cutting ties with Pioli, and moving on with a good replacement. Pioli can't fix this mess. He will never be a GM again.

Molitoth 10-07-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8989541)
i'm not terribly upset at Clark.

He hired a very highly sought after GM. The GM gave him very specific demands and Hunt gave him that.

I'm not going to blame a guy for shooting big and failing.

Hunt can fix this thing by just cutting ties with Pioli, and moving on with a good replacement. Pioli can't fix this mess. He will never be a GM again.

This.

Molitoth 10-07-2012 05:51 PM

Clark needs to realize he made a mistake and enforce change.

Something Pioli won't do.

Smed1065 10-07-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8989541)
i'm not terribly upset at Clark.

He hired a very highly sought after GM. The GM gave him very specific demands and Hunt gave him that.

I'm not going to blame a guy for shooting big and failing.

Hunt can fix this thing by just cutting ties with Pioli, and moving on with a good replacement. Pioli can't fix this mess. He will never be a GM again.

Agree cept bet he is a GM again.

DaneMcCloud 10-07-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8989541)
He hired a very highly sought after GM.

Sought after by whom? Who else interviewed him?

Messier 10-07-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8989607)
Sought after by whom? Who else interviewed him?

I know now everyone sees him as a joke, but weren't there several teams, at least a few, that pursued Pioli over the years before the Chiefs got involved? The guy had a great reputation, I'm sure there were interested teams.

stonedstooge 10-07-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8989638)
I know now everyone sees him as a joke, but weren't there several teams, at least a few, that pursued Pioli over the years before the Chiefs got involved? The guy had a great reputation, I'm sure there were interested teams.

I would imagine he's now thought of as the Terrell Owens of General Managers. A cancer

FAX 10-07-2012 06:15 PM

Actually, our defense played pretty well today. And Jamaal was a stud.

On the other hand, Crennel got an F, Daboll got an D, Cassel got an incomplete ... and an INT or two.

FAX

chiefzilla1501 10-07-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 8989638)
I know now everyone sees him as a joke, but weren't there several teams, at least a few, that pursued Pioli over the years before the Chiefs got involved? The guy had a great reputation, I'm sure there were interested teams.

The Browns had him high on their list. This is what I recall as well. It seemed like more than anything, most teams weren't willing to give everything Pioli demanded.

Mother****erJones 10-07-2012 06:17 PM

Clark tried he got the best GM possible it didn't work. Now go get a talent evaluator not based on rep. I'm not hating on Clark at all. This is all pioli. Maybe if he would of got real competition for Cassel from day 1 things would be different

HonestChieffan 10-07-2012 06:25 PM

Clark does not make day to day decisions. Pioli is the turd and Romeo is a total fool.

ChiefsCountry 10-07-2012 06:27 PM

Best bet for Clark is to keep quiet until the season is over, unless something major that breaks laws or league rules. Evulate the whole body of work and have your decision made by the last game of the season.

munkey 10-07-2012 06:28 PM

This is a huge mess...the Hunt's as a family will make some decisions soon...What a public nightmare....Lamar is rolling in his grave.

RunKC 10-07-2012 06:28 PM

Clark needs to be doing his homework too. In the coming weeks he needs to be talking to people in his circle about what GM to hire next.

If he keeps Pioli after this season, his stadium is going to be empty next year. Not an ounce of support from season ticket holders.

bricks 10-07-2012 06:33 PM

I'll chip in with my two cents.

This whole situation on how the fanbase is furious that Pioli & co are starting Cassel and are reluctant to making a change, is where Clark should get involved.

Obviously, the fanbase is not pleased by the decision making that is going on. I think that is where the owner needs to step in and get involved by saying, "hey, we need to make a change here because what you guys are doing just isn't working." the fact that Clark isn't taking any action reflects who he is.

He is a hands off owner. He gives his GM's way too much power. In times like this, that is not a good thing. That is my reason where I believe one can say he is at fault.

chiefzilla1501 10-07-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 8989747)
Clark needs to be doing his homework too. In the coming weeks he needs to be talking to people in his circle about what GM to hire next.

If he keeps Pioli after this season, his stadium is going to be empty next year. Not an ounce of support from season ticket holders.

I like Maas' idea to hire Marty as a consultant, as long as that's purely to consult and not to segway Marty into the GM or head coach role. I agree with Maas that Marty would be happy to do this.

While people mocked this idea... this isn't a decision Hunt should make on his own. Think Marty knows the league well enough to know what to look for in a GM, as well as know the chatter about who's good and who's bad. Hell, I bet a consultant would have steered Hunt away from Pioli. That's for sure.

clyde05 10-07-2012 06:36 PM

Obviously this isn't the right 53. Crennel,Pioli and Cassel should be gone, oh and daboll

lcarus 10-07-2012 06:39 PM

Clark better not let Pioli stay if he agrees to get rid of Cassel and draft a QB. After how he believed in Cassel so much to trade for him, pay him mega bucks, and stick with him so long and protect him from the possibility of failure as much as he could, Pioli isn't the guy I want choosing our next QB. Because it isn't going to be a no brainer. We aren't getting a #1 or 2 pick.

KChiefer 10-07-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 8989539)
Why hasn't he commented publicly?

"It's better to remain silent and let people think you're a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt." /Lincoln

ILChief 10-07-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8989607)
Sought after by whom? Who else interviewed him?

I read the war room book by Michael Holley and it says Cleveland really wanted Pioli


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