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Nzoner 10-10-2012 09:16 PM

So Rich Gannon was talking about his days in KC
 
on his Sirius/XM show with Adam Shine and although I didn't catch the entire segment I did hear him say that he would spend hours as the back-up watching film etc. and Grbac would not even show up and he (Gannon) knew that if Marty ever regretted anything it was not making Grbac be accountable for that.

Okay maybe not current but just found it interesting and thought it was worth sharing.If anyone caught the complete segment maybe you could fill in the gaps of what prompted the comment etc.

L.A. Chieffan 10-10-2012 09:18 PM

Its a little relevant considering Quinn is about to step in as the next Gannon

Titty Meat 10-10-2012 09:18 PM

Gannon sucked Cassel off the whole off season **** him

Frazod 10-10-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9000454)
Its a little relevant considering Quinn is about to step in as the next Gannon

The main difference is that on his best day Cassel is to Grbac what Grbac is to Montana.

boogblaster 10-10-2012 09:21 PM

well .. its a process .. film study too .....

Nzoner 10-10-2012 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 9000454)
Its a little relevant considering Quinn is about to step in as the next Gannon

Now wouldn't that be the shit,turn the season around and make the play-offs only to be benched in the last game of the season because the starter is all better now.

MeatRock 10-10-2012 09:25 PM

****ing depressing.

Spott 10-10-2012 09:27 PM

Did he mention a crazy stalker lady?

L.A. Chieffan 10-10-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 9000473)
Now wouldn't that be the shit,turn the season around and make the play-offs only to be benched in the last game of the season because the starter is all better now.

I'd prefer to leave that last part out.

Phobia 10-10-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 9000473)
Now wouldn't that be the shit,turn the season around and make the play-offs only to be benched in the last game of the season because the starter is all better now.

There can't be any chance that would ever repeat itself. Clark would fire everybody before that went down again.

DaneMcCloud 10-10-2012 09:32 PM

This isn't surprising at all. Grbac, while physically gifted, never truly loved football. That was never more evident than his stint in Baltimore.

In all honesty, I think the guy only played football because it made his father happy.

Oh well, those days are long gone and I hope he's happy today.

Dartgod 10-10-2012 09:37 PM

Dammit, Carl!! :cuss:

Terribilis 10-10-2012 10:23 PM

'Grbac is now an assistant quarterbacks coach for Saint Ignatius High School in Cleveland, Ohio.'

Phobia 10-10-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terribilis (Post 9000627)
'Grbac is now an assistant quarterbacks coach for Saint Ignatius High School in Cleveland, Ohio.'

Assistant? Who is the head QB coach? Steve Bono?

|Zach| 10-10-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9000663)
Assistant? Who is the head QB coach? Steve Bono?

LMAO

Chiefspants 10-10-2012 10:48 PM

What's often forgotten is that Gannon put up fairly pedestrian numbers during the 1997 season, I think the major difference was that, unlike Grbac, he wasn't a freaking quitter.

JazzzLovr 10-10-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 9000495)
Did he mention a crazy stalker lady?

LMAO

rico 10-11-2012 12:00 AM

I saw this semi-recent clip of Grbac running some sort of youth football camp.... good God he looks like Goldberg these days. :)

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 12:30 AM

Grbac didn't have time for film study. As the sexiest man alive, he was busy ****ing every woman in Kansas City.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 12:31 AM

Holy ****.

http://chagrinyoga.com/wp-content/up.../03/gcweb1.jpg

Hammock Parties 10-11-2012 12:32 AM

You have got to be shitting me. It's Grbac doing yoga.

http://www.chagrinyoga.com/chagrin-y...-good-company/

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007 10-11-2012 02:22 AM

Why do I get the feeling you are going to have some serious fun with this.

Chris Meck 10-11-2012 02:24 AM

'chagrin' means embarassing. I suppose that is honesty in advertising.

rico 10-11-2012 03:08 AM

Elvis......Grbac

From People Magazine's sexiest athlete:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/...sexy_elvis.jpg

to Goldberg lookalike:

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rico 10-11-2012 03:15 AM

I have a friend who never officially had a favorite NFL team to root for. He always just watched NCAA. Then he got into fantasy football and wanted a team to root for and was open for suggestions. I successfully turned him in to a Chiefs fan. Before I gave my "spleel" about the Chiefs, he said there was absolutely no way he could get into a team that has always come off to him as so boring. I informed him of some of the non-boring shit about the franchise and the whole Elvis Grbac: People Magazine's Sexiest Athlete (because they had him confused with Rich Gannon) was what officially sold him. He thought it was one of the funniest stories he'd ever heard and it was and still is hilarious to this day, IMO. He used to be a huge Cassel apologist, which made me pissed off that I pushed the Chiefs on him, but finally....after the Chargers game, he decided that Cassel is horrible. That took way too freaking long. At first I was like, "YES, a CHIEFS fan (there aren't an abundance of them in my area) Finally someone who I can talk Chiefs football with." Then when he wouldn't hop off the Cassel-wagon, I was like, "UGH, I brought more stupidity to the fanbase and now I refuse to talk to this dude about Chiefs football."

munkey 10-11-2012 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 9000897)
I have a friend who never officially had a favorite NFL team to root for. He always just watched NCAA. Then he got into fantasy football and wanted a team to root for and was open for suggestions. I successfully turned him in to a Chiefs fan. Before I gave my "spleel" about the Chiefs, he said there was absolutely no way he could get into a team that has always come off to him as so boring. I informed him of some of the non-boring shit about the franchise and the whole Elvis Grbac: People Magazine's Sexiest Athlete (because they had him confused with Rich Gannon) was what officially sold him. He thought it was one of the funniest stories he'd ever heard and it was and still is hilarious to this day, IMO. He used to be a huge Cassel apologist, which made me pissed off that I pushed the Chiefs on him, but finally....after the Chargers game, he decided that Cassel is horrible. That took way too freaking long. At first I was like, "YES, a CHIEFS fan (there aren't an abundance of them in my area) Finally someone who I can talk Chiefs football with." Then when he wouldn't hop off the Cassel-wagon, I was like, "UGH, I brought more stupidity to the fanbase and now I refuse to talk to this dude about Chiefs football."

lol

memyselfI 10-11-2012 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9000826)
Grbac didn't have time for film study. As the sexiest man alive, he was busy ****ing every woman in Kansas City.

Except that the People article was a mistake. They liked the name Elvis Grbac but thought they were getting Rich Gannon. True story.

Rausch 10-11-2012 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9000521)

Oh well, those days are long gone and I hope he's happy today.

I don't...

BlackHelicopters 10-11-2012 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9000826)
Grbac didn't have time for film study. As the sexiest man alive, he was busy ****ing every woman in Kansas City.


;)

Imon Yourside 10-11-2012 07:35 AM

He's teaching all those youngsters that you can't throw it and catch it, unless your gay i guess.

HemiEd 10-11-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 9000897)
I informed him of some of the non-boring shit about the franchise and the whole Elvis Grbac: People Magazine's Sexiest Athlete (because they had him confused with Rich Gannon) was what officially sold him. He thought it was one of the funniest stories he'd ever heard and it was and still is hilarious to this day, IMO. "

This is the first I had heard of this. I remember saying at the time, WTF? Grbac?

Deberg_1990 10-11-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 9000975)
Except that the People article was a mistake. They liked the name Elvis Grbac but thought they were getting Rich Gannon. True story.

Is this just a CP urban myth or the truth? Link please....

rico 10-11-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9001109)
Is this just a CP urban myth or the truth? Link please....

It's true. I've been studying all night and am too tired to link it, but it is true...

OctoberFart 10-11-2012 12:37 PM

Marty cost the QUEEEFS an AFC Championship game appearence and probably SB by sitting Gannon over Grbac.

Predarat 10-11-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnWind (Post 9001989)
Marty cost the QUEEEFS an AFC Championship game appearence and probably SB by sitting Gannon over Grbac.

Yes it still pisses me off.

Brock 10-11-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9001109)
Is this just a CP urban myth or the truth? Link please....

http://deadspin.com/5302475/the-sad-...-athlete-alive

Easy 6 10-11-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9000457)
Gannon sucked Cassel off the whole off season **** him

Thats just the usual Quarterback Fraternity BS, imo.

Warner was doing the same thing, but they know better.

siberian khatru 10-11-2012 02:04 PM

Man, I do NOT need to relive the Grbac years.

qabbaan 10-11-2012 02:04 PM

Gannon was a dink and dunker with some mobility, he was probably the biggest system-made QB ever in Oakland. I don't think anyone felt like he was going to beat them with his arm. His MVP might have been statistically justified and he might have represented a highwater mark for QBing in Oakland for decades, but that is a low standard.

This was a case of "if you think you have two QBs you really have none"

Saul Good 10-11-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9002251)

Irish Jayhawk with the quote on that article. It even includes a Carl reference.

Chiefspants 10-11-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 9002272)
Gannon was a dink and dunker with some mobility, he was probably the biggest system-made QB ever in Oakland. I don't think anyone felt like he was going to beat them with his arm. His MVP might have been statistically justified and he might have represented a highwater mark for QBing in Oakland for decades, but that is a low standard.

This was a case of "if you think you have two QBs you really have none"

Stats and Ability be damned, Grbac was anti-clutch, a quitter, and possessed no fire for the game.

Gannon, on the other hand, lacked the physical capabilities of traditional star quarterbacks, but almost always possessed an ability to come through when it mattered most.

memyselfI 10-11-2012 02:09 PM

http://www.jeffpearlman.com/elic-grbac-not-so-sexy/

qabbaan 10-11-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9002285)
Stats and Ability be damned, Grbac was anti-clutch, a quitter, and possessed no fire for the game.

Gannon, on the other hand, lacked the physical capabilities of traditional star quarterbacks, but almost always possessed an ability to come through when it mattered most.

Grbac should not have been starting but Gannon is the most overrated QB ever.

htismaqe 10-11-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9002285)
Stats and Ability be damned, Grbac was anti-clutch, a quitter, and possessed no fire for the game.

Gannon, on the other hand, lacked the physical capabilities of traditional star quarterbacks, but almost always possessed an ability to come through when it mattered most.

Yeah, he was SO clutch in 1998.

He started 10 games and they SUCKED.

whoman69 10-11-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9000678)
What's often forgotten is that Gannon put up fairly pedestrian numbers during the 1997 season, I think the major difference was that, unlike Grbac, he wasn't a freaking quitter.

His stats are nearly identical to Grbac. Here are their stats with Grbac first. Completions 57-56%. TD% 3.5-4.0. INT% 1.9-2.3. YPA 6.2-6.5. Rate 79.1-79.8. Grbac was throwing the ball more.

CoMoChief 10-11-2012 03:59 PM

http://www.insidethehuddle.tv/sites/...ver%201996.png

TEX 10-11-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9002617)

Still have that issue of SI....

CoMoChief 10-11-2012 04:14 PM

Shit i just realized that was the wrong SI cover. oh well.

Chiefs suck

Psyko Tek 10-11-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 9000473)
Now wouldn't that be the shit,turn the season around and make the play-offs only to be benched in the last game of the season because the starter is all better now.

GAWD I ****ING HATED THAT

Chiefspants 10-11-2012 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9002476)
Yeah, he was SO clutch in 1998.

He started 10 games and they SUCKED.

The Chiefs went 5-5 with Gannon started in 98.

2-4 with sir Elvis.

Brilliant decision making by Carl to keep Elvis from those results alone.

Rooster 10-11-2012 08:57 PM

Salt meet wound

htismaqe 10-11-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9003843)
The Chiefs went 5-5 with Gannon started in 98.

2-4 with sir Elvis.

Brilliant decision making by Carl to keep Elvis from those results alone.

Of course Gannon looks good compared to Elvis.

Compare him to a REAL QB and he looks mediocre.

Because he was.

The myth of Gannon amongst Chief fans is amazing.

Chiefspants 10-11-2012 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9004045)
Of course Gannon looks good compared to Elvis.

Compare him to a REAL QB and he looks mediocre.

Because he was.

The myth of Gannon amongst Chief fans is amazing.

The issue isn't that Gannon was Mr. Amazing, it's that Grbac had absolutely no business starting over him.

htismaqe 10-11-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 9004119)
The issue isn't that Gannon was Mr. Amazing, it's that Grbac had absolutely no business starting over him.

That's why people say silly shit like "if Marty started Gannon, we go to the SB" right?

The Mayor 10-11-2012 09:51 PM

I will never forgive Marty for the "you can't lose a job due to injury" policy. I still get sick thinking of that playoff game. We were on a roll. We beat SF 49 to 0 and destroyed Oak the following week. That was our year. Still breaks my heart. Damn... Last Super Bowl contender we had was 97.

Brock 10-11-2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9004127)
That's why people say silly shit like "if Marty started Gannon, we go to the SB" right?

We don't lose to Denver. that good enough?

BigMeatballDave 10-11-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9004127)
That's why people say silly shit like "if Marty started Gannon, we go to the SB" right?

Had Gannon played that Playoff game vs Denver, we win.

Gannon was not great, but the Chiefs were winning.

Starting a guy with minimal playing time heading into the post-season is borderline reeruned.

Frazod 10-11-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9004194)
We don't lose to Denver. that good enough?

They beat the hell out of everybody else. They beat us by 4, and it took a reeruned coach, a quitter QB, several cans of Pam, and two massively blown calls by the ref$ to pull it off.

Chiefspants 10-11-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9004263)
They beat the hell out of everybody else. They beat us by 4, and it took a reeruned coach, a quitter QB, several cans of Pam, and two massively blown calls by the ref$ to pull it off.

And the failure of the worst 2 minute drill ever run in playoff history.

BigChiefFan 10-11-2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9004196)
Had Gannon played that Playoff game vs Denver, we win.

Gannon was not great, but the Chiefs were winning.

Starting a guy with minimal playing time heading into the post-season is borderline reeruned.

Bellichek would like a word with you.

memyselfI 10-12-2012 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9002578)
His stats are nearly identical to Grbac. Here are their stats with Grbac first. Completions 57-56%. TD% 3.5-4.0. INT% 1.9-2.3. YPA 6.2-6.5. Rate 79.1-79.8. Grbac was throwing the ball more.

Yes, but Gannon put up those numbers in an offense that was not tailored to him, right? The difference when he got the the Raiders is that Gruden crafted his offense AROUND Gannon. Rich likely would have been a very effective QB here, or anywhere, where the emphasis on the offense was built around his strengths and not his weaknesses.

htismaqe 10-12-2012 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 9004194)
We don't lose to Denver. that good enough?

We would have won that game if there wasn't a couple of TERRIBLE phantom calls, with or without Gannon.

Try again.

htismaqe 10-12-2012 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9004196)
Had Gannon played that Playoff game vs Denver, we win.

Gannon was not great, but the Chiefs were winning.

Starting a guy with minimal playing time heading into the post-season is borderline reeruned.

The Chiefs were 7-2 with Grbac, 5-1 with Gannon. Our 2 worst offensive performances of the season were both with Gannon at QB.

The idea that he had ANYTHING to do with that season is a fallacy.

Any QB could have done what he did. Hell, ELVIS GRBAC did it and he sucked according to everyone here.

htismaqe 10-12-2012 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 9004571)
Yes, but Gannon put up those numbers in an offense that was not tailored to him, right? The difference when he got the the Raiders is that Gruden crafted his offense AROUND Gannon. Rich likely would have been a very effective QB here, or anywhere, where the emphasis on the offense was built around his strengths and not his weaknesses.

Bullshit.

Gruden ran the SAME offense in Tampa, with Brad Johnson, and won a Super Bowl.

Gannon FIT Gruden's offense, Gruden didn't tailor anything for Rich.

Bullshit.

Deberg_1990 10-12-2012 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9004578)
Bullshit.

Gruden ran the SAME offense in Tampa, with Brad Johnson, and won a Super Bowl.

Gannon FIT Gruden's offense, Gruden didn't tailor anything for Rich.

Bullshit.

Wasnt Paul Hackett still the Chiefs OC in 97? He basically ran the same offense as Gruden or very similiar didnt he?

I just think Gruden liked to the throw the ball alot more than Marty did, and the Raiders had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice, so of course they played to their strengths at the time.

Dartgod 10-12-2012 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9004578)
Bullshit.

Gruden ran the SAME offense in Tampa, with Brad Johnson, and won a Super Bowl.

Gannon FIT Gruden's offense, Gruden didn't tailor anything for Rich.

Bullshit.

Better to leave Richie alone before she threatens to sue.

Nzoner 10-12-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9004196)
Had Gannon played that Playoff game vs Denver, we win.

Gannon was not great, but the Chiefs were winning.

Starting a guy with minimal playing time heading into the post-season is borderline reeruned.

As I recall Grbac started the last regular season game against the Saints at Arrowhead in a cold drizzle and absolutely sucked.That alone should have been all the warning Peterson needed.Yes,I said Peterson,I still think Grbac getting his job back was Carl's ultimate call based on a report I remember hearing by Gretz and then later comments made by Marty himself when he was then working for ESPN on NFL Live.


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