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gblowfish 06-04-2013 12:12 PM

BIG SMILE! New Jersey Nazi Heads Off To Family Court
 
I think he needs a teapot from J.C. Penny....

http://tinyurl.com/lccgsgn

Heath Campbell entered a New Jersey courthouse Monday dressed in a full Nazi uniform, donning a trimmed mustache reminiscent of Adolf Hitler -- the man he named his firstborn child after.

The 40-year-old dad was attending a hearing to ask for visitation rights to his youngest child, 2-year-old Heinrich Hons, who was taken into state custody just hours after his birth in 2011.

Henrich's three Nazi-named siblings -- Adolf Hitler, 7, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, 6, and 5-year-old Honzlynn Jeannie -- had already been placed in foster care in 2009. The move came a month after the family gained national attention when a ShopRite refused to write "Happy Birthday Adolf Hitler" on a birthday cake.

On Monday before the hearing, Campbell told NBC10, "The world needs to see who I am," when asked what his strategy was in wearing the controversial outfit. "I'm going to tell the judge, I love my children. I wanna be a father, let me be it."

In August 2010, an appeals court ruled that evidence of domestic violence justified the state's decision to remove the children from the Campbell home, according to ABC News.

A year ago, a New Jersey Superior Court judge decided Campbell and his wife, Deborah -- who've since separated -- could not have their children back.

Campbell has always maintained that his kids were taken solely because of their names.

"These kids weren’t abused," he told The Star-Ledger after the 2012 decision, adding, "If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I’ll do it."

A month later, he created a new Nazi organization, "Hitler's Order," according to NBC10, and began wearing the uniform.

Campbell originally told The Associated Press in 2008 that he named his son after Adolf Hitler because he liked the name and "no one else in the world would have [it]."

The media were not allowed inside the court room because of New Jersey family court proceedings policy.

Prison Bitch 06-04-2013 12:15 PM

Why were his kids taken? Did he break a law or something?

Fish 06-04-2013 12:18 PM

Classy...

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5...thcampbell.jpg

Fish 06-04-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9728637)
Why were his kids taken? Did he break a law or something?

Read...

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In August 2010, an appeals court ruled that evidence of domestic violence justified the state's decision to remove the children from the Campbell home, according to ABC News.

ptlyon 06-04-2013 12:25 PM

Hope he doesn't draw Goldstein for a judge

gblowfish 06-04-2013 12:28 PM

I hate New Jersey Nazis....

Saul Good 06-04-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9728657)
I hate New Jersey Nazis....

Neo Jersey?

Sassy Squatch 06-04-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9728637)
Why were his kids taken? Did he break a law or something?

http://synapticnulship.com/blog/wp-c...958233396.jpeg

Saul Good 06-04-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9728646)
Read...

That happened AFTER his kids were taken away.

redfan 06-04-2013 12:39 PM

Swastika neck tattoo: Fad or fashion?

Fish 06-04-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9728670)
That happened AFTER his kids were taken away.

Apparently you didn't read it either.

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In August 2010, an appeals court ruled that evidence of domestic violence justified the state's decision to remove the children from the Campbell home, according to ABC News.
They "Justified" the state's decision at that time. It was appeals court.

Holladay 06-04-2013 12:42 PM

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I wanna be a fuhrer, let me be it."
Fixed

Donger 06-04-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9728657)
I hate New Jersey Nazis....

Me too, although they aren't as bad as Illinois NAZIs.

warpaint* 06-04-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9728644)

Picture yourself as the judge. These two are standing in front of you arguing that they are fit to raise children.

I couldn't keep a straight face.

Pitt Gorilla 06-04-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9728637)
Why were his kids taken? Did he break a law or something?

pretty clearly. Read the article.

SnakeXJones 06-04-2013 01:46 PM

Im confused about his hair does he have it back or is it receding that bad?

ptlyon 06-04-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 9728898)
Picture yourself as the judge. These two are standing in front of you arguing that they are fit to raise children.

I couldn't keep a straight face.

Now now, no need to be racist

tooge 06-04-2013 02:04 PM

those two don't deserve anything other than cyanide showers.

Fish 06-04-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

"If I have to give up my Nazism, then so be it. I’ll do it."

A month later, he created a new Nazi organization, "Hitler's Order," according to NBC10, and began wearing the uniform.
Dedicated father stuff right there....

Prison Bitch 06-04-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9728902)
pretty clearly. Read the article.

I think you might need to learn to read, actually. Here's the scoop:

The appeals court ruled Thursday that sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect existed. Court records state that both parents were victims of childhood abuse and both are unemployed and suffering from unspecified physical and psychological disabilities.

Neither Campbell has been adequately treated for their psychological conditions, court records said....


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1035040.html

listopencil 06-04-2013 02:24 PM

It looks like his hair is slicked back instead of cut properly short. I question his commitment to fascism.

Fish 06-04-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9728977)
I think you might need to learn to read, actually. Here's the scoop:

The appeals court ruled Thursday that sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect existed. Court records state that both parents were victims of childhood abuse and both are unemployed and suffering from unspecified physical and psychological disabilities.

Neither Campbell has been adequately treated for their psychological conditions, court records said....


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1035040.html

Your scoop doesn't say anything different. The original case when the children were taken away found sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect. And the appeals court justified the original decision. Some of the reasoning included that the parents were victims of abuse themselves as children, they were unemployed, and suffering from psychological disabilities.

How is that questionable at all?

Prison Bitch 06-04-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9729005)
Your scoop doesn't say anything different. The original case when the children were taken away found sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect. And the appeals court justified the original decision. Some of the reasoning included that the parents were victims of abuse themselves as children, they were unemployed, and suffering from psychological disabilities.

How is that questionable at all?


I assume you're joking here. The whole question I posed is, "did they break the law"? Putting aside for a moment that if we applied that standard to all parents, about 1/2 of us would lose our kids immediately.....what did the parents do to abuse the kids?

When you read the story closer you find out they didn't abuse the kids. The Stqate just didn't want them around the parents. Let's be honest what happened. Being dumb or poor or bigoted or a victim of abuse would, again, eliminate millions of folks from parenthood.

Fish 06-04-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9729019)
I assume you're joking here. The whole question I posed is, "did they break the law"? Putting aside for a moment that if we applied that standard to all parents, about 1/2 of us would lose our kids immediately.....what did the parents do to abuse the kids?

When you read the story closer you find out they didn't abuse the kids. The Stqate just didn't want them around the parents. Let's be honest what happened. Being dumb or poor or bigoted or a victim of abuse would, again, eliminate millions of folks from parenthood.

Quote:

found sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect
JFC. I'm not sure how much more clear it can be made.

Radar Chief 06-04-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9728644)

No shit, unemployed huh? Can’t imagine why.

seaofred 06-04-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9728939)
those two don't deserve anything other than cyanide showers.


Why are you being intolerant of their beliefs?

Rain Man 06-04-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9729019)
I assume you're joking here. The whole question I posed is, "did they break the law"? Putting aside for a moment that if we applied that standard to all parents, about 1/2 of us would lose our kids immediately.....what did the parents do to abuse the kids?

When you read the story closer you find out they didn't abuse the kids. The Stqate just didn't want them around the parents. Let's be honest what happened. Being dumb or poor or bigoted or a victim of abuse would, again, eliminate millions of folks from parenthood.

I'm not sure that naming your children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation is an act of loving and caring parenting. They basically doomed those kids to a life of humiliation and difficulty until they can get old enough to change their name legally.

LiveSteam 06-04-2013 03:18 PM

Nazism is so 1938

Prison Bitch 06-04-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9729096)
I'm not sure that naming your children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation is an act of loving and caring parenting. They basically doomed those kids to a life of humiliation and difficulty until they can get old enough to change their name legally.

Obviously the parents are kooks but the story here is whether the State can legitimately claim the children were being abused. Having an idiot or a bigot for a parent is not a legitimate reason to remove somebody's own children from them. (If it were, everyone in America would be at risk).

Pitt Gorilla 06-04-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9728977)
I think you might need to learn to read, actually. Here's the scoop:

The appeals court ruled Thursday that sufficient evidence of abuse or neglect existed. Court records state that both parents were victims of childhood abuse and both are unemployed and suffering from unspecified physical and psychological disabilities.

Neither Campbell has been adequately treated for their psychological conditions, court records said....


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1035040.html

Abuse and neglect are crimes. What part of "sufficient evidence" are you unable to comprehend?

Donger 06-04-2013 03:44 PM

The judge should have done an imitation of Freisler:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aNi5256dhvM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Radar Chief 06-04-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9729096)
I'm not sure that naming your children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation is an act of loving and caring parenting. They basically doomed those kids to a life of humiliation and difficulty until they can get old enough to change their name legally.

Wha? You think it might be a detriment to their future prospects?
I was assuming they were headed for lucrative careers in the PR biz, or maybe as accountants since I’m sure all the too big to fail banks would be knocking each other over to be the first to hire Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation.

Backwards Masking 06-04-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9728633)

Campbell originally told The Associated Press in 2008 that he named his son after Adolf Hitler because "no one else in the world would have [it]."

LMAO He's got a point.

Rain Man 06-04-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 9729186)
Wha? You think it might be a detriment to their future prospects?
I was assuming they were headed for lucrative careers in the PR biz, or maybe as accountants since I’m sure all the too big to fail banks would be knocking each other over to be the first to hire Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation.

I'm sure that colleges will be falling all over themselves to admit these kids, too.

"Okay, let's look at Adolf Hitler's application. Mmm-hmmm. 3.5 GPA, active in the FFA, volunteered at church. Mmm-hmmm. Okay, who's next?"

If the idiot parents want to make a statement they shouldn't damage their children to do it. I notice that they didn't change their own names to reflect their ... beliefs or whatever.

Donger 06-04-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9729199)
I'm sure that colleges will be falling all over themselves to admit these kids, too.

"Okay, let's look at Adolf Hitler's application. Mmm-hmmm. 3.5 GPA, active in the FFA, volunteered at church. Mmm-hmmm. Okay, who's next?"

If the idiot parents want to make a statement they shouldn't damage their children to do it. I notice that they didn't change their own names to reflect their ... beliefs or whatever.

"Yeah, but he can't paint humans worth shit!"

Dayze 06-04-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 9729173)
I bet the judge did Nazi that coming at all.

ok, that shit was funny.:thumb:

Prison Bitch 06-04-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9729177)
Abuse and neglect are crimes. What part of "sufficient evidence" are you unable to comprehend?


I'd like to know what "abuse" was committed. If you're going to accept sufficient-evidence on it's face, that's your deal but I'd like a wee bit more color.



The fact they didn't release it, makes me believe it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd obviously release it.

Fish 06-04-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9729210)
I'd like to know what "abuse" was committed. If you're going to accept sufficient-evidence on it's face, that's your deal but I'd like a wee bit more color.



The fact they didn't release it, makes me believe it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd obviously release it.

:facepalm:

Pitt Gorilla 06-04-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9729210)
I'd like to know what "abuse" was committed. If you're going to accept sufficient-evidence on it's face, that's your deal but I'd like a wee bit more color.



The fact they didn't release it, makes me believe it doesn't exist. Because if it did, they'd obviously release it.

They would? Why?

Rain Man 06-04-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9729201)
"Yeah, but he can't paint humans worth shit!"

Oh, hey. I just got that.

Dayze 06-04-2013 04:06 PM

so the guy is a moron and idiot. but why did his kids get taken away?

is the name considered abuse by the courts?

Backwards Masking 06-04-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9729210)
I'd like to know what "abuse" was committed. If you're going to accept sufficient-evidence on it's face, that's your deal but I'd like a wee bit more color.

They can't legally take the kids away because they're neo nazis and named them such and have psychological problems, and even the domestic violence thing....that's between ma and pa.

however they're unemployed and therefore deadbeats. **** deadbeat parents.

gblowfish 06-04-2013 04:09 PM

It's amazing this guy can't find work.....

Backwards Masking 06-04-2013 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9729201)
"Yeah, but he can't paint humans worth shit!"

he shoulda stuck to painting dead people. woulda been more considerably inspired works of art

Rain Man 06-04-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9729223)
so the guy is a moron and idiot. but why did his kids get taken away?

is the name considered abuse by the courts?

I'm as libertarian as anyone around here. Well, maybe not, but I'm pretty libertarian. However, I could buy an argument that these parents are running a cult and these kids are being forced to be part of it. Their behavior is beyond "pleasantly eccentric" or even "weird". It's destructive.

Planetman 06-04-2013 04:49 PM

Achtung Baby
http://media.u2.com/non_secure/image...htungb/600.jpg

KChiefer 06-04-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9729223)
so the guy is a moron and idiot. but why did his kids get taken away?

is the name considered abuse by the courts?

Let's put it this way,

The Westboro Church parents get to keep their kids. These assholes don't. Therefore, they must have done something worse than Westboro.

Just Passin' By 06-04-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9729246)
I'm as libertarian as anyone around here. Well, maybe not, but I'm pretty libertarian. However, I could buy an argument that these parents are running a cult and these kids are being forced to be part of it. Their behavior is beyond "pleasantly eccentric" or even "weird". It's destructive.

So you're saying they're almost as bad as Democrats?














(And.... off to DC!)

Just Passin' By 06-04-2013 05:38 PM

On a serious note, there's something off about this case, and I'm not talking about the parents:

Quote:

DYFS (Department of Youth and Family Services) contend that while they originally took the children on the suspicion (and ultimate charge) of parenting incompetence and abuse, they were further kept in DYFS custody because because of domestic abuse. While the case is protected by a gag order, the domestic abuse is thought to be between the parents themselves.

The Campbells deny that any kind of domestic violence took place in their house and claim their children were taken away because of their namesakes, which is illegal. Today, a judge cleared the couple of any child abuse charges, a large victory they thought in their efforts to get their children back. The Campbells say they should get immediate custody back./
http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...abuse-charges/

Backwards Masking 06-04-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9729304)
Westboro Church parents get to keep their kids. These assholes don't. Therefore, they must have done something worse than Westboro.

outside of the single solitary domestic violence charge I'm not finding a difference

maybe Tax exempt assholes > Tax paying assholes (if tax paying assholes were employed), there's that i guess

Pitt Gorilla 06-04-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9729338)
On a serious note, there's something off about this case, and I'm not talking about the parents:



http://www.imperfectparent.com/topic...abuse-charges/

2011, bruh. I'm guessing things may have changed since that time.

Just Passin' By 06-04-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9729378)
2011, bruh. I'm guessing things may have changed since that time.

The importance of that link is that they were found not guilty of child abuse and still not given their children back.

warpaint* 06-04-2013 07:01 PM

Gag order makes it pretty difficult to answer the question as to what they've done. I gave the court the benefit of the doubt as a result.


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