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BlackHelicopters 02-21-2013 10:30 AM

Jon Gruden considers Nick Foles outstanding.

suds79 02-21-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9422239)
My biggest thing with Foles is his accuracy problems.

You mean deep ball accuracy problems right?

KC_Lee 02-21-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9422244)
Jon Gruden considers Nick Foles outstanding.

Who doesn't Grunden think is outstanding?

ncCHIEFfan 02-21-2013 10:31 AM

Reid may want both QBs but no way he chooses Foles over Geno

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9422252)
Who doesn't Grunden think is outstanding?

Al Davis.
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KC_Lee 02-21-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9422260)
Al Davis.
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ROFL REP!!

O.city 02-21-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9422248)
You mean deep ball accuracy problems right?

That and he struggled with overall accuracy in college, IIRC.


Frankly, I'm a little tired of inaccurate QB's. If we do take Foles, I'd like to see them play it a little like Flacco with that big arm.

suds79 02-21-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9422266)
That and he struggled with overall accuracy in college, IIRC.


Frankly, I'm a little tired of inaccurate QB's. If we do take Foles, I'd like to see them play it a little like Flacco with that big arm.

He completed 60+ % ever year in college and then was 60.8% as a rookie. Are you seeing something I'm not?

Not understanding this inaccurate argument.

O.city 02-21-2013 10:41 AM

Look at the teams he had good games against. It was some of the worst secondaries in the league.


Now, he also had some good games against good teams and he didn't have much around him. So i tend to give him a pass on some of that.


But he had alot of questions about his accuracy coming out and was supposedly really innacurate in the evaluation process.


He showed last year that he isn't awful in that area, but he also wasn't consistent.

DJ's left nut 02-21-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9422275)
He completed 60+ % ever year in college and then was 60.8% as a rookie. Are you seeing something I'm not?

Not understanding this inaccurate argument.

He was very much an underneath passer in college. When he tried to go past about 15 yards, he really fell to hell.

Foles is exactly the same guy he was in college and I had no reason in giving more than a 4th for him then. Now the 4th would be even higher and I'm still not willing to give more than that for him.

He's not bad; he has some tools. But he's inaccurate and he's probably going to stay that way.

Messier 02-21-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9422239)
He might be. Not sure I see it, but it could happen.



My biggest thing with Foles is his accuracy problems. Thats not generally something you can teach and get that much better at. You can improve it, with technique etc, but to a certain point, either you have it or you don't.

4 of his 7 games he had over a 64% completion percentage. He had two bad games and two good games. I don't know, this could be what he is, but like I said, I've seen some recent 1st founders that didn't show the promise that Foles showed in albeit a small sample size.

O.city 02-21-2013 10:48 AM

He does have some upside, but IMO, it's not enough upside to give up more than a 3/4 round pick at this point.

Messier 02-21-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9422299)
He does have some upside, but IMO, it's not enough upside to give up more than a 3/4 round pick at this point.

I wouldn't either.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-21-2013 10:52 AM

oh **** Foles in the ass already....
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Messier 02-21-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9422309)
oh **** Foles in the ass already....
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A well reasoned critique of Foles.


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