Sounds like Matt Flynn heading to Oakland via trade, and Carson Palmer Out
 

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 16s

Sounds like Matt Flynn heading to Oakland via trade, and Carson Palmer will be on his way out (possibly to AZ). trying to nail down details

lul

shitty to shit. nice

Well, that would help alleviate my primary Geno worry.

If this happens, Flynn has a better season than cassel 2.0. Period.

And the Jags fans wept...

DOOMED

Doubt it. They dont have much to work with there...

It's unbelievable just how hard Seattle nailed their QB solution last year. Franchise QB who is arguably in league with (or better than) Andrew Luck in the 3rd round, free agent guy they picked up turned into a trade.

What an unstoppable team they could be. That's a scary-looking dynasty if I ever saw one.

Yet they issues us beat downs year in and out...

BTW, have we paid them rent for 2013 Arrowhead?

How? No RB, no WR's, no TE, shaky O-line.

Where are the Raiders offensive playmakers?

I bet they'd trade it all for Alex Smith.

What will the cap hit?

Luck > Wilson not even close. Wilson had Marshawn Lynch Luck had shit.

Flynn would be much more deserving of the name Cassel 2.0.

I hope Mckenzie-Flynn is the new Pioli-Cassel

Flynn is still an unknown if you ask me. I think I'd rather take the chance on him rather than Alex Smith, we already know what we are getting with Smith and it's hot garbage.

Half joking half serious. I think I'd rather have Chase Daniel.

Lmao @ you listing a running back. Luck had Reggie Wayne.
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not to mention the defensive teams these guys had were quite different too. Wilson is a system QB, Luck can work any system to his advantage.

Well those are two less teams to trade down with...

[AZ/OAK]

Do you even watch football when you can run it opens up the passing.

So you are saying if Flynn even comes CLOSE to cassel 2.0 he pulled off a miracle? Or Alex Smith would get the blame because the chefs have so muchbetter weapons?

So when this does happen it will prove how much Alice cassel sucks, right?

I can't believe they didn't trade for him so they didn't have to keep relying on a young unknown, unproven player at QB.

And having a borderline hall of fame WR doesnt?
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How many times did you see a team put 8 in the box vs the Colts? Answer Not many.

The Raiders have been beating the Chiefs because of their D-line dominating our Oline. And shit play from our QB.

The Chiefs and Raiders were never going to trade.

How can anyone say that Wilson didn't have a better team than Luck?

The Seahawks had a ton of talent on their team last year to surround their QB.

After 2012 season we can throw all the QB back in draft not 1 team would take Wilson over Luck.

He had a better team around him and he had a better season. Just because you have a good team doesn't invalidate what you did.

Hahahaha.

Keep trading for jackwagons!

Wait...we did that.

****

No but it certainly helps. Luck had no HC for most of the year and half of the roster was brand new.

So are Arizona and Oakland going this route because they don't like Geno, or because they know he's not going to be available? :)

What? You said that if Flynn is traded to the Raiders, he'll have a better season than Alex Smith.

Please explain how that is possible when the Raiders don't have shit for an offensive line, wide receivers, tight ends or running backs (McFadden has been nothing short of a bust).

LMAO and R8ers laughed at us for acquiring Smith.

:D

Only people that have never seen both teams.

Because Alex Smith Sucks

Another team with a premium pick in the draft trading for a questionable QB instead of relying on the draft to fill that need? I wonder what that means.

LMAO C'mon man

Plus 1

It means that SNR is right and everyone else is wrong.

it means "Joeckel Joeckel Joeckel" for us!

Flynn deal shows Raiders don’t think much of rookie quarterbacks
Posted by Mike Florio on March 29, 2013, 3:59 PM EDT
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So much for the Raiders being interested in Geno Smith with the third overall pick in the draft.

The reported trade that will send one-game wonder Matt Flynn from Seattle to Oakland means that the Raiders won’t be drafting Smith, or presumably any other quarterback.

Unless it’s all an elaborate smokescreen.

Flynn’s contract carries a base salary of $5.25 million in 2013, $2 million on which is fully guaranteed. In 2015, Flynn is due to make $6.25 million.

While Flynn has limited NFL experience, Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie knows what he’s getting. McKenzie worked for the Packers during Green Bay’s Brett-Favre-barricade draft of 2008. Within weeks after the Packers finagled Favre’s retirement by demanding a commitment early in the offseason, Green Bay drafted both Brian Brohm and Flynn.

It’s unknown what the Raiders are giving up to get Flynn, but McKenzie declared last year that the team won’t be trading draft picks.

For now, it appears they won’t be using any draft picks on a quarterback.

I will take Flynn just because he is basically unknown to me right now... Reggie knows alot about him from being in Green Bay so long.

I am not going to Homer up and act like this is what I wanted because it's not... I really was content on Pryor starting since we are in rebuilding mode anyway...

No way dude!! Is that even possible????? Does that mean Sweet dick Willie plays poker better than Reid and Dorsey???? No way!! I dont believe it!!!!!








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Say goodbye to a trade down.

Looks like it's Joeckel at 1.

Why didnt Dorsey ever make a play for Flynn? He obviously knows him pretty well too....

It's sure starting to look that way! ROFL

You want me to explain?

The Qb receives the ball from the vented. This is called a "hike". The Qb will then throw the ball to a receiver. This is called a pass.

I mean seriously though look at what I wrote. You're acting like this is SO impossible so is it not reasonable then to infer that if this does happen......or even comes close to happening ... that Flynn would have to be given a lot of credit.......and cassel 2.0 by your admission has so many more weapons so he will have a MUCH better season than Flynn ' right?

You don't actually think the Raiders and Chiefs were going to trade with each other did you?

You've done me a great service.

No. I doubt anyone is going to trade up with us for Geno Smith. Very doubtful.

Raiders showing what everyone else is thinking. This QB class sucks a dick.

Maybe he had a better option.

That's an obsolete ideology. Teams pass to set up the run now, not vice versa. If you run to set up the pass, then explain the success of the passing games of the Vikings, Chiefs, and Jaguars compared to the Patriots, Saints, or even the Lions.

What if Oakland gave up a 2nd for him would people stop bitching then about the Smith deal?

They don't have one.

Yes, if Alex Smith is worth a ****ing shit, he should have a better season than Flynn, a guy that's started exactly ONE GAME in the NFL and has no receivers, tight ends and running backs of note in Oakland.

With or without Flynn, the Raiders are destined to completely suck in 2013.

We have a winner!!!

Once again how many times did you see teams put 8 in the box vs colts?

The **** would his deal have to do with Smith's?
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Smith > Flynn

You are correct....

He answered that when he was first hired. They asked him what he thought of Flynn. He said he's a good guy in the locker room, translation, he's not a starter.

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 16s

Very telling that two teams with potential to draft Geno Smith—Chiefs and Raiders—have acquired other quarterbacks.

No

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but Indy's running attack sucked. Luck still threw for over 4,000 yards.

The running game is becoming an afterthought in the NFL.

A flying matt, sounds like a terrorist contraption and a perfect Raider. Off to DC...

That's irrelevant to your claim that you run to set up the pass. You don't. First down is a passing down. Teams that run on first down fail to convert on third.

Doesn't mean shit because the Giants acquired Kurt Warner the same offseason they picked Eli.

I'm getting at just how good would Wilson be if he didn't see 8 in the box most of the time.

Yeah....it's pretty telling that the Raiders....who didn't realistically have a shot at Geno Smith....didn't have dick at the QB position outside of Carson Palmer (who won't play for them).....traded for a QB that the GM is familiar with.

Matt Miller is a ****ing idiot.

So?

If you bought a Geo metro for $30,000 would it make you feel good about your deal if someone else bought a ford pinto for $30,000?
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I guarantee you Flynn will be much cheaper than Smith...

Probably a 5th rounder

Have you seen the last few Off season? QB go for 2nd round picks that's the going rate.

and the Jags apparently are willing to go with Gabbert over Geno.

This isn't 2004.

So when/if Arizona signs Carson Palmer, will that will leave Buffalo as the only fire break between Geno Smith and the 2nd round (or maybe more likely, the late 1st round via a trade up)?

All of these teams that are lauded for picking up backup quarterbacks are also among the five worst franchises of the last decade.

Coincidence?