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suzzer99 12-15-2013 11:15 PM
Theotis Brown gets no love?

Kaepernick 12-16-2013 12:06 AM
I think he has a ways to catch Marcus Allen, but he could end up the Chiefs best back.

mcan 12-16-2013 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 10282822)
Priest was my favorite, but Charles is just on another level right now. He's gonna get offensive player of the year on a team that spent half the year begging the defense to bail them out. He is the single biggest reason we are where we are. Just when I thought the Chiefs were going to blow it today, he was like "naw" and ripped the Raiders again.

He gets better as the game goes on. He has the best all time YPC. Also, I could give two ****s about rushing yards. Total yards are ALL that matters. He does it all and is a great teammate. ****... the guy even took a low ball deal. His hands seem to be improving. He blocks and looks to hit guys rather than going down easy. I just can't find fault with the guy.

I will finally buy his jersey when his career is over since I've had bad luck with those in the past. Love ya, Priest, but Jamaal is the most exciting offensive player I've ever seen in a Chiefs uniform.

He made a strong case for MVP today. Manning will probably win (and as much as I hate the dude, he deserves it) but Charles will absolutely be a part of that discussion. Can't deny that Charles is probably as important to us as Manning is to the Broncos. It's close, anyway.

penbrook 12-16-2013 12:46 AM
Manning - MVP

Charles - Offensive Player of the Year

teedubya 12-16-2013 12:48 AM
The dude is on a whole 'nother level. Love that dude. Plus, I rock Pumas.

UK_Chief 12-16-2013 03:35 AM
I loved Priest but he had one of the best O-lines we've ever seen to run behind. Imagine what JC would do with that line!!!

Halfcan 12-16-2013 11:26 AM
I think JC pretty much swayed the opinion he is the greatest ever in a chiefs uniform. a few more years with production like this-could be up in the top 5 in the nfl.

dtebbe 12-16-2013 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10248639)
Willie Roaf made that WHOLE line work. The day he retired our line went to shit, our Offense went to shit and Trent Green got a concussion running for his life. If he was blocking for Jamaal, we'd be looking at history being made.
I would say Willie Roaf + Tony Richardson is what made that running game work, especially inside the 5. When they got inside the 5 you might as well just put the 7 on the board. We got kinda spoiled with that...

They traded T-Rich the same year that Roaf retired. Double whammy.

DT

Rain Man 12-16-2013 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10282974)
I think he has a ways to catch Marcus Allen, but he could end up the Chiefs best back.
Marcus ran 3,022 times for 12,243 yards and 123 TDs. He averaged 4.1 yards per carry.

To date, Jamaal has run 1,030 times for 5,717 yards and 28 TDs. He's averaging 5.6 yards per carry.

So to catch Marcus statistically, Jamaal needs to run the ball 1,997 times for 6526 yards, which would average 3.27 yards per carry. It would appear that longevity is his sole remaining barrier.

Marcus also had 587 receptions for 5,411 yards and 21 TDs (9.2 yards per reception), whereas Jamaal is currently at 217 receptions for 1,937 yards and 14 TDs (8.9 yards per reception). So Jamaal needs another 370 receptions for 3,474 yards, averaging 9.39 yards per reception.

Both are clearly top runners. Marcus had success for a long time, but Jamaal is much more productive with the ball in his hands than (and I love saying this) any other player in the history of the National Football League.

cosmo20002 12-16-2013 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10282974)
I think he has a ways to catch Marcus Allen, but he could end up the Chiefs best back.
If you're talking about just Allen's years with the Chiefs, he's not even in the discussion.

Kiimo 12-16-2013 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10284012)
Marcus ran 3,022 times for 12,243 yards and 123 TDs. He averaged 4.1 yards per carry.

To date, Jamaal has run 1,030 times for 5,717 yards and 28 TDs. He's averaging 5.6 yards per carry.

So to catch Marcus statistically, Jamaal needs to run the ball 1,997 times for 6526 yards, which would average 3.27 yards per carry. It would appear that longevity is his sole remaining barrier.

Marcus also had 587 receptions for 5,411 yards and 21 TDs (9.2 yards per reception), whereas Jamaal is currently at 217 receptions for 1,937 yards and 14 TDs (8.9 yards per reception). So Jamaal needs another 370 receptions for 3,474 yards, averaging 9.39 yards per reception.

Both are clearly top runners. Marcus had success for a long time, but Jamaal is much more productive with the ball in his hands than (and I love saying this) any other player in the history of the National Football League.


So Jamaal needs nearly a HUNDRED more touchdowns to catch Marcus Allen.

:shake:

Marcus Allen man. Jeez.

Rain Man 12-16-2013 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 10284069)
So Jamaal needs nearly a HUNDRED more touchdowns to catch Marcus Allen.

:shake:

Marcus Allen man. Jeez.
Marcus was a short-yardage machine, while Jamaal historically didn't get goal line carries. Interestingly, Jamaal is still behind Marcus' rushing TD total from the Chiefs. Marcus had 44 in five seasons with KC and Jamaal has 28 in more or less the same time period.

Jamaal has a lot of receiving TDs, though, and closes the gap in that respect. Marcus had 47 total TDs as a Chief, whereas Jamaal has 43 if you include one return TD.

It's interesting to me that 1/3 of Jamaal's TDs are receptions. That seems like a high ratio for a running back.


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