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13and3 10-24-2012 08:05 PM

What is the knock on Brady Quinn?
 
Why is Brady Quinn a bad qb? I confess, I don't watch much college sports, and hardly pay any attention to the Cleveland Browns, so I don't really know what he can do. What I do know is that he has a pretty strong arm, was drafted in the first round, and has had time to mature, albeit holding a clip board. 13 games is low sample size in my opinion. I am pretty sure alot of quarter backs who have turned out to be pretty good didn't play well or having wining records in their first year or two. I don't know, it just seems like all the media guys are really down on this kid, and it seems he has not had much of a chance in Cleveland, and/or backing up Tebow who was Denver first round pick. Some of those guys on 610 and 810 have very narrow views, and shady agendas. They say all the fans are mad about this or that, and everybody calls in and goes yeah! fire this guy and fire that guy and the masses by into a bunch of hype men on the radio. I am going to wait to form my own judgements and to see if Quinn guy can play and win us some motha****in games.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:06 PM

Completion %, and cant throw the ball downfield with any sort of accuracy at all.

Way to mechanical....

Ceej 10-24-2012 08:07 PM

He touches other dude's dicks.

keg in kc 10-24-2012 08:07 PM

Oh, I'm sure it'll become clear over the next few months.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9046907)
He touches other dude's dicks.

/thread

rico 10-24-2012 08:08 PM

Footwork has been a knock. Also questionable decision making, mentality and accuracy....has a tendency to over-throw or throw too high or just seemingly throw at something other than the receiver. He has his moments though.

BigMeatballDave 10-24-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9046906)

Way to mechanical....

That

hometeam 10-24-2012 08:12 PM

He is Cassel who can throw a long ball with power.

Meaning, he sucks, but he's just a little more fun to watch since he can rocketball into a pick rather than float a screen pass pick.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-24-2012 08:12 PM

He's got everything you would want in a QB but accuracy. When your QB lacks accuracy, he has nothing.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9046928)
He is Cassel who can throw a long ball with power.

Meaning, he sucks, but he's just a little more fun to watch since he can rocketball into a pick rather than float a screen pass pick.

Yeah that long ball with power is about as accurate as an Iraqi Scub Missle...

Bane 10-24-2012 08:13 PM

He's like Casshole on red bull.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:14 PM

Iraqi Scud Missle > Quinn

13and3 10-24-2012 08:18 PM

Sounds alot like Kyle Orton who can still win some games. I would rather have some one with some talent and ability instead of someone who maybe physically cant do it like Cassel.

Sure-Oz 10-24-2012 08:18 PM

Loves to check down and not look downfield.

Stronger arm than Cassel um thats it?

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9046945)
Sounds alot like Kyle Orton who can still win some games. I would rather have some one with some talent and ability instead of someone who maybe physically cant do it like Cassel.

Abortion was a joke... Most over hyped QB in KC in the last 30 Days...LMAO

hometeam 10-24-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9046932)
Yeah that long ball with power is about as accurate as an Iraqi Scub Missle...



I didn't say it landed anywhere near the receiver~

ClevelandBronco 10-24-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9046945)
Sounds alot like Kyle Orton who can still win some games. I would rather have some one with some talent and ability instead of someone who maybe physically cant do it like Cassel.

No, Kyle put Brady's dick all in the dirt in Denver. He's no Kyle Orton.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9046948)
I didn't say it landed anywhere near the receiver~

:clap:

Fair Enough...

hometeam 10-24-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9046945)
Sounds alot like Kyle Orton who can still win some games. I would rather have some one with some talent and ability instead of someone who maybe physically cant do it like Cassel.


Orton is 3x the QB Quinn is. And hes sitting on the bench behind Romo. Think about it.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9046950)
No, Kyle put Brady's dick all in the dirt in Denver. He's no Kyle Orton.

Then Tebow came along and clown suited both of them.

the Talking Can 10-24-2012 08:20 PM

the knock on quinn?

he sucks

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9046952)
Orton is 3x the QB Quinn is. And hes sitting on the bench behind Romo. Think about it.

That is something I never want to think about. My god that is like thinking, Hum, do I want anal raped with a rusty chain saw or a dull wore out belt sander...

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9046954)
the knock on quinn?

he sucks

Sucks like a boss

Chiefnj2 10-24-2012 08:22 PM

He's Cassel with a stronger arm and quicker release.

milkman 10-24-2012 08:25 PM

13and3, take a breath buddy.

Hammock Parties 10-24-2012 08:25 PM

Inaccurate as ****.

Makes Cassel's accuracy look like Trent Green.

BossChief 10-24-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9046974)
Inaccurate as ****.

Makes Cassel's accuracy look like Trent Green.

Their inaccuracies have striking similarities...I think they are neck and neck in that category. Brady has a much better arm, poise and mobility though.

Everything else is pretty much the same, though.

Sorter 10-24-2012 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9046974)
Inaccurate as ****.

Makes Cassel's accuracy look like Trent Green.

http://oi53.tinypic.com/nmm88h.jpg

Deberg_1990 10-24-2012 08:29 PM

This dude had trouble beating out Derek Anderson and Tebow. Tells me all I need to know.

petegz28 10-24-2012 08:29 PM

I saw Brady make a couple throws Cassel would never make. Sad part is they were too far and few inbetween a lot of Cassel style passes

petegz28 10-24-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9046981)
This dude had trouble beating out Derek Anderson and Tebow. Tells me all I need to know.

I think we know Tebow was a publicity move. I will cut Quinn a tiny bit of slack since the guy has only started 13 games in 3 years. But I have to take that back because he has only started 13 games in 3 years.

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 9046984)
I think we know Tebow was a publicity move. I will cut Quinn a tiny bit of slack since the guy has only started 13 games in 3 years. But I have to take that back because he has only started 13 games in 3 years.

IF he is so ****ing awesome, why are we the only team willing to take him. Why are the 31 other teams avoiding the guy?

BossChief 10-24-2012 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9047003)
IF he is so ****ing awesome, why are we the only team willing to take him. Why are the 31 other teams avoiding the guy?

Not defending the guy, but who said they were?

I know Quinn said he turned down a bigger offer to stay in Denver...

Hammock Parties 10-24-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9046979)
Their inaccuracies have striking similarities...I think they are neck and neck in that category. Brady has a much better arm, poise and mobility though.

Everything else is pretty much the same, though.

Cassel can be accurate on short passes.

Quinn was throwing horrible slants last week. Just dogshit.

Dave Lane 10-24-2012 08:55 PM

He sucks. Couldn't beat out Tebow. /thread

petegz28 10-24-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9047003)
IF he is so ****ing awesome, why are we the only team willing to take him. Why are the 31 other teams avoiding the guy?

I think you missed the point of my last sentence.

13and3 10-24-2012 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9047064)
He sucks. Couldn't beat out Tebow. /thread

Not a valid argument, Tebow had to be traded because even the almighty Peyton would have had some situations if Tebow had stayed. Thats why he was traded so fast. Denver was blinded by glourious light of tebow.

hometeam 10-24-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9047093)
Not a valid argument, Tebow had to be traded because even the almighty Peyton would have had some situations if Tebow had stayed. Thats why he was traded so fast. Denver was blinded by glourious light of tebow.

Couldnt beat out Cassel.

Satisfied?

J Diddy 10-24-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9047096)
Couldnt beat out Cassel.

Satisfied?

I'm not so sure that's a valid argument either. Only 2 people could have beat out Cassel. One was Manning and the other was Jesus Christ. Neither wanted to come here.

13and3 10-24-2012 09:07 PM

Brady Quinn =Matt Cassel + a 16oz can of Red Bull seems to be something I could come to grips with.

13and3 10-24-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9047096)
Couldnt beat out Cassel.

Satisfied?

So you trust that Pioli can pick out the best Qb on the roster?

Reerun_KC 10-24-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9047125)
So you trust that Pioli can pick out the best Qb on the roster?

No. See banner thread.

hometeam 10-24-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9047125)
So you trust that Pioli can pick out the best Qb on the roster?

You trust that he can pick out a decent QB in any capacity?

RealSNR 10-24-2012 09:12 PM

I have nothing against Brady Quinn. He's the perfect QB for this team.

Under his guidance we will very likely lose all the games we need to lose to draft Geno.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9047138)
I have nothing against Brady Quinn. He's the perfect QB for this team.

Under his guidance we will very likely lose all the games we need to lose to draft Geno.

How dare you recommend a QB that wears his hat backwards at times ROFL

hometeam 10-24-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9047143)
How dare you recommend a QB that wears his hat backwards at times ROFL

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp...6kw4o1_500.jpg

13and3 10-24-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9047137)
You trust that he can pick out a decent QB in any capacity?

He had Tom Brady on the roster and didn't know it.

Dayze 10-24-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9046934)
Iraqi Scud Missle > Quinn

LMAOLMAO...about as accurate too

Pasta Little Brioni 10-24-2012 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 9047144)

Ohhhh Black Boooooooooob!!!!!

hometeam 10-24-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9047148)
He had Tom Brady on the roster and didn't know it.

Exactly.

listopencil 10-24-2012 09:27 PM

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/19SEd-whnSs/0.jpg

Psyko Tek 10-24-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 9046918)
Footwork has been a knock. Also questionable decision making, mentality and accuracy....has a tendency to over-throw or throw too high or just seemingly throw at something other than the receiver. He has his moments though.

so we got an upgrade?

Psyko Tek 10-24-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9046950)
No, Kyle put Brady's dick all in the dirt in Denver. He's no Kyle Orton.

orton is the best qb has had fro 10 years?
jamal wept
bowe blows town
and chunt counts money

Psyko Tek 10-24-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9047053)
Cassel can be accurate on short passes.

Quinn was throwing horrible slants last week. Just dogshit.

really?
I saw cassel hang receivers up to dry, or die for 4 weeks
the high throws could have killed or ruined any WR we have

BlackHelicopters 10-25-2012 06:35 AM

Is it Bratt Cuinn or Mady Qassel?

crazycoffey 10-25-2012 06:41 AM

brady isn't a 1st round pick, we want to loose so we can pick a first round pick dammit, get with the program....

durtyrute 10-25-2012 07:11 AM

Most people just love to hate. He's started one game for us and he's the worst QB since Cassel.

Reerun_KC 10-25-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 9047650)
Most people just love to hate. He's started one game for us and he's the worst QB since Cassel.

He was Cassel before he started one game in KC...

Jesus people do you ever look at stats, history, reports? Or do you just cock holster any player in Red and Gold?

Quinn is what he is, a well below average 1st round bust QB.. He is Akili Smith and Tim Couch rolled up into one.

FRCDFED 10-25-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9047659)
He was Cassel before he started one game in KC...

Jesus people do you ever look at stats, history, reports? Or do you just cock holster any player in Red and Gold?

Quinn is what he is, a well below average 1st round bust QB.. He is Akili Smith and Tim Couch rolled up into one.

I am not so quick to buy into the "bust" label. The dude hasn't started many games and the ones that he did start were with the Browns who had NO weapons to help out a rookie QB. He has a lot of potential that has not been properly developed. Hell McNabb had a strong arm and was inaccurate as shit but took his team pretty far under the right guidance of Andy Reid. It isn't always the QB's fault for his successes or failures. I for one hope that Quinn succeeds. He has a lot of weapons to include a legitimate running game. If he fails here it is going to be because he has the same POS head coach he had in Cleveland backed up by a POS OC that can't draft an offensive plan to suit his strengths.

Establish the running game and then run some play action passes to draw in the safeties and give this guy some passing lanes. If the OC can do that (I have my doubts) then I don't see how Quinn cannot be a successful QB in the NFL.

13and3 10-25-2012 07:00 PM

It just amazes me how most don't have an original thought in their head and just ****in regurgitate what they hear on the radio. Brady quinn is a bust, he can't do it. For **** sake he has only played in 13 games. How can you have these concrete conclusions so fast. Most likely none on this board has seen al 13 games and are just reading stats or being a damn paraet. What's the point of being a fan if all you see is despair?

htismaqe 10-25-2012 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13and3 (Post 9049995)
It just amazes me how most don't have an original thought in their head and just ****in regurgitate what they hear on the radio. Brady quinn is a bust, he can't do it. For **** sake he has only played in 13 games. How can you have these concrete conclusions so fast. Most likely none on this board has seen al 13 games and are just reading stats or being a damn paraet. What's the point of being a fan if all you see is despair?

What's the point of being a fan if all you see is failure?

Marcellus 10-25-2012 07:27 PM

Quinn is a guy who could have been THE guy but wanted to be a different guy and now he is just A guy.

htismaqe 10-25-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9050091)
Quinn is a guy who could have been THE guy but wanted to be a different guy and now he is just A guy.

You sure he didn't want to be a girl?

Bump 10-25-2012 07:36 PM

One thing I noticed from last game is that he panics at the very first hint of pressure.

Sorter 10-25-2012 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9050136)
One thing I noticed from last game is that he panics at the very first hint of pressure.

I do think that that will get better with more reps and familiarity.

WhiteWhale 10-25-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9046929)
He's got everything you would want in a QB but accuracy. When your QB lacks accuracy, he has nothing.

Yup.

If a QB doesn't have mid-range accuracy (15-25 yards) he's going to struggle against any quality defense. This is why I liked RGIII so much. His mid-range accuracy was awesome.


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