shit canned the Patriot Way when he first came to KC.

Do you forget that this forum has a search feature when you post?

Dude....the only thing he's shitting is his pants.


I'm the dumb one, not the guy saying cut him after a 27 TD, 7 INT season? You thought you KNEW after that season that there was no room for growth? He couldn't turn into a very good QB? He was just a pathetic POS useless turd of a QB? That was CERTAIN after a 27-7 season?

Your crystal ball must be really clear. You should play the lottery or something.

Yeah, maybe that answer is sufficient. I didn't know if there was another one or not. Just sticking with Cassel instead of Orton certainly hasn't worked out well to say the least.

Im with you on this

You can't sit here and say those quarterbacks wouldn't have turned out differently on a different team.

And besides, Kyle Orton is obviously superior to Matt Cassel.

Now **** off.

Yes, he ****ing sucked ass, threw balls too high, took phantom sacks and completely crumbled in the playoff game.

Add to that fact that Jamaal Charles was off the hook that season AND the fact that they played the lowly NFC West, with the winner of that division ending up with a losing record at 7-9, and you'd clearly see that he needed to be replaced.

The bottom line is that EVERY position should be challenged each and every offseason. Baltimore won the Super Bowl, then cut Trent Dilfer for Elvis Grbac.

In an eleven year time span, San Diego traded for Stan Humphries, drafted Ryan Leaf, drafted Drew Brees and drafted Phillip Rivers, all in an effort to improve the QB situation.

The Chiefs haven't done dick in the draft since 1983.

Oh, and Cassel did and always has sucked ass.

The main issue I have with Scott (besides the 60M to Matt) is not retaining Orton, bringing in legitimate competition via the draft this year, the year before, and the year before that, and continuing to stick with him despite the fact Cassel was the main contributor in our team's lack of success.

yes, i did now...and said so every god damn day at the top of my ****ing lungs

it was obvious before then...it was obvious from the beginning

but thanks for showing up and sucking cassel's dick on stage for us all...we've had quite enough of clueless pats fans trying to 'edumacate us'...

jesus **** this isn't happening

Then stop talking. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm glad the Pats fan knows more about the Chiefs than we do.

No, I'm asking a question. And you're having some kind of epileptic seizure. Calm down.

I'm not even ARGUING for anything, I'm wondering if there was some better option out there I didn't know about. Obviously not so much. Basically Pioli should've gone with Orton this year. That would've been a better move. At least keep him on the freaking roster in case Cassel becomes an epic failure, or gets hurt, both of which have happened.

?

Anyone suggesting that is a loony.

After 2011, competition should have brought in, though.

None was. Zero effort to fix what was obviously a position of weakness.

A terrible failure of general management.

Of course Pioli started it all when he gave Cassel 60 million for 0 reasons.

I can't wait until Brady's career ends and this "Patriot Way" bullshit is exposed as the biggest scam in NFL history.

It has been discussed around here already. 2010 was the year Weis was the OC. He really did a good job of masking Cassel's deficiencies. We still ran alot on obvious passing downs in 2010. We also had a very weak schedule which allowed Cassel to have few decent games against some really shitty teams.