The constant negativity is tiresome. Who is ready to join me and move on?
 

I'm finding this constant negativity tiresome. We have sucked for years. We were an embarrassment. A big ****ing joke. I'm done with the negativity.

I wanted Geno. I think we overpaid for Smith. I'm scratching my head over some of their moves.

Reid and Dorsey obviously have a plan. For crissakes, Reid watched every down of every player for the whole ****ing year before he even met with Clark. I'm going to give them AT LEAST a half a season before I start calling them dumb-asses and screaming for their head.

I don't think I'm accepting mediocrity by choosing to not scream and yell and be totally pissed off by the moves so far. If you think so, you are entitled to you opinion.

I was an early and financial supporter of SOC. Season ticket holder for years. I think anyone would label me a hard core Chiefs fan. Just like most of the posters on this board. We deserve better than we have been given by our team. I will be a Chiefs fan until I become worm food. Lifes too short to go around pissed all the time. I did enough of that the last few years.

I'm going to chose to hope that Reid and Dorseys plan is sound and will result in the return of winning football and our first playoff win since the Montana era. Who's with me?

I did this awhile ago with my Alex Smith thread. You may as well deal with it. People are entitled to their opinion. Sift through what you don't want to read.

If thats your ass in the pic. Yea I'll join.

yayyyyyyyyyy

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Nope, you can't talk me off of the ledge..I'm still jumping.

Couldn't agree more. People want to try and spot patterns all day and, honestly, hope for the worst. That way of thinking drains the shit out of me, personally. Think what you want, of course.

I feel pretty much the same. I was devastated when I found out about Alex Smith, and Im still pissed off this stupid franchise refuses to draft a QB early but it is what it is I guess and none of my bitching or moaning is going to change a thing. That being said, if we dont win a playoff game in the next two years this team will be dead to me.

Now it's time on Chiefs Planet when we DANCE...

with the Alex Smith deal, they['re on a short leash for me. For me that was a big strike 1. not necessarily the player, but the cost to get him was reeruned.

they've got the draft to continue to prove to me. I like FA so far.

I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt on anything. Done with that shit.
"Show Me" or GTFO. Tired of the benefit of the doubt shit that has gone on here for 30 years.

Who's jumping to their death with me? You can scream whatever you want when you jump, just fyi.

Poll fail as well, where is the I like the FA moves other than QB which is the most important position by far.

Sorry, just can't get excited about a QB who's a game manager, and nothing else. Literally. He's MORE of a game manager than our last QB.

No one is forcing you to read it.

I've gotten my pouting out of the way, all of these recent moves have really helped.

So yeah, i'm in... Just Make It Work, Andy.

*ready, BREAK!*

CP dumbasses >>>>>>>>> Personnel in the NFL.

seems?

I see deja vu bad with Alex Smith... I see Matt Cassel, I see Elvis Grbac, I see Steve Bono.

This move hurts even more because this offseason the Chiefs are in the driver's seat to draft a franchise QB in Geno Smith.

I'll give Dorsey/Reid one season to prove me wrong, but the QB is the foundation and the foundation is wrong.

The best I can come up with is that I thought the team would have a chance at winning the division last year with Orton.

**** off.

I don't want people to change their opinion. Everyone on here has a right to post their opinion. We just don't need to hear the same negative opinion in every single thread.

It blows up and we suck again, SOC II will rise. We know how to get it done. We got it, your pissed. Lifes just too short. Let's move on.

And I can't argue with absolute certainty that your opinion is wrong. It is what it is. You are not an idiot or misreading facts. Smith blowing up in our face is a valid opinion. It could happen.

Therein lies the problem, life is too short not to take a chance at any point during ours at taking a QB in the draft.

See post #2, delete first sentence.

"Come on, everybody! Sit down and enjoy a nice mouthful of shit with me! No negative vibes here!"

I'm sorry, but, I just can't get excited about a team that's being led by Alex Smith. I've watched Smith play many times, and I just don't see what there is to like about him.

Trading what amounts to a mid first round pick for a veteran game manager, does not seem like a move a front office that's devoted to building a tradition of winning and challenging for championships makes. The move screams, "play it safe" and creep back to mediocrity to get asses back in the seats. Who the **** wants to root for that?

I know that in todays league quarterback is SO big, and Axl is underwhelming to pretty much everyone here... but on a good note, i'm honestly starting to see the makings of a big, fast, nasty defense similar to seattles.

If Poe can take a step, add in the recent signings with our already proven guys and then hopefully an excellent draft... yeah, its been bandied about and hoped for for years... but we might finally have that brutish, top ten D this year.

That'd help a bunch.

70% of the Chief fanbase who want to go out and enjoy BBQ and a home win, 8-8 is good ya.

And I am not saying your wrong. I feel it is a valid reaction to the moves so far. :thumb:

ESPN 2 is about to show the review of the chiefs pick-ups next.

LMAO oh, you.

Its not even really about blowing up in our face....I'm sure he will dink n dunk for his 200 ypg and 1 TD.......which may be just enough to keep us out of the running for a real QB.....yet without much up-side.

I dont see much long term thinking going on, unless something shocking happens in April..

Its one approach, which is fine, its just not the approach I wanted to see.

But I still will root for every win on gameday, baby!

Benefit of the doubt for me. I've spent much less time around here lately mainly because it's hard to sift through the constant bitching to find actual reasonable discussion.

Sorry, but it's just insanely stupid not to use the 1st overall pick on a QB. I can't get past that.

You don't think it's reasonable to question the Alex Smith QBOTF move?

Thats the same for me. I love the in your face honesty here. I wouldn't hang on any other Chiefs site because of the homerism. I'm not asking for that. Go to the Coalition if you want that. Just not every single thread with the same opinion.

We need to move on. It's done. the moves are made. What does it mean to us for the upcoming season? Wheres that discussion?

Sure, that's reasonable. But there's a big difference in "You know, I'm skeptical that Alex Smith will improve to the point that he will lead us to the Super Bowl" and "OMFG ALEX SMITH IS WORSE THAN CASSEL. **** THIS TEAM!!11!"

Quit trying to fix me bitch, If you don't like it leave. Oh...wait..

I literally have no other place to bitch about the chiefs than here. Everybody I know still thinks Matt Casshole is a good qb and that our O-line was probably just bad last year.

I can't go full homer for Reid/Dorsey because they traded a 2nd round pick for another team's game managing backup and declared that he would be the starter irrespective of any competition.

Even if I like what they're doing otherwise, I'd be a massive hypocrite for saying **** pioli when he did EXACTLY that and just pretend it's ok for reid/dorsey to do it.

I agree. I wanted Geno. But you and me are not the GM/Head Coach. It is what it is. We just have to deal with it.

I'm certainly looking forward to this season.

It's the offseason man, it's just a discussion of the offseason at this point until we see some gameplay. I'm sure most will give it a chance when the season starts, just not without reservation.

LMAO
People come here to vent about the Chiefs, I don't see a problem with it. We don't need disgruntled postal workers that keep it all pent up inside.

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No tall buildings where I live.

There has been plenty of reasonable discussion.

But people are pissed, and rightly so. So when they present their case and you don't agree, you interpret it as bitching.

There are two sides to an argument. Just because it's not your side, doesn't make it "bitching".

I myself am fine with what the team has done so far, but people also have the right to bitch.

Maybe that's because some people aren't skeptical but have actually formed a hard stance, and there aint shit wrong with that.

And if you were to look at pure numbers, yes, Alex Smith is worse than Matt Cassel.

That's not MY opinion, but it's easy to see how someone can come to that conclusion.

The people who say that have a valid argument, whether you or anyone else want to hear it or not.

That's been discussed. We'll go 8-8, win most of our home games and the true fans will be happy and Clark will make lots of money and be happy as well.

A large number of people have literally claimed that the Alex Smith trade was worse than the trade for Matt Cassel. If that's not just being bitchy, then people here are complete idiots whose sports opinions have no merit.

I AM IN MOTHER ****ER

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That is hypocritical, there is a very good argument that without the benefit of hindsight, the two trades are very similar.....

Cassel had only one season playing in the NFL , Smith has had 7 ......

If anything, Cassel was a swing in the dark......whereas Smith is a known quantity.

I personally think your quote above shows how biased(or ignorant of the realities of alex smith) you are.

I think both QB's are similar, the only real question is what Reid can do with him.

I like the moves this pre-season so far even for Alex Smith. I have faith in Reid and Dorsey as well, I try to a positive person.

There are some negative nancy's on this board who have to constantly post that they hate the Smith trade over and over. I think they are just miserable people though.

Wait a mintue, you agree but insult me in the same post?

You are fully adapted to the Planet.:thumb:

Uh, no. The 9ers are my #2 team. I've watched every game Alex has played (that didn't conflict with a Chiefs game) in the past three years.

I hated the traded and spazzed out completely when it was announced. Now that the reality has set in, there is nothing I can do about it now. So I can either change teams or I can learn to deal with it and hope that Dane is right that Reid and Dorsey have a long term plan. I will say that my expectations are even lower than last season and I reserve the right to bitch about it in the future if ASmith is mediocre and one of this classes' QBs blows up.

And you feel he is more than a game manager type of QB? Maybe you shouldve watched a few more years....

#2 team? #2 TEAM? There can be only one.:shake:

How are they being complete idiots? They have a legit argument.

See, you're just as guilty as they are. You wanna play the role of "wait and see" but refuse to acknowledge their very valid argument.

There is no more reason to label them an idiot than there is to label you an idiot.

If you truly were neutral like you say you are, then you'd understand their argument and not label them as "bitching"

After Pioli, I don't get very mad at anything Chiefs related.


I will keep on doing what I have been doing: Hoping for the best, but not losing my shit when the status quo happens.

Though I am really not happy with what we have done at QB, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for this season. BUT, if it turns out my concerns were right, I'm ripping them a new one by the end of the season.

I've been there since Vermeils last year here.

Moving on sounds great to me.

As in you can stop clicking on the threads that aren't all rainbows and unicorns so you can try to "educate" all us that aren't happy with the shit trade for Alex Smith.

If you're getting tired of hearing us bitch, it's nobody's fault but yours.

It's nice, isn't it?

Perhaps I have grown up and figured out that football is (normally) fun to watch, but I have no control so why should I lose my shit?

I thought the negativity was related to the last regime and Cassel...but it's clear a lot of the people on this forum just like to bitch...probably are unhappy in their real life and so they bring it to the forum. Pretty sad place to be around. I am actively looking for a chiefs forum that doesn't have all the negativity and depressed personalities this place has.

Yeah but if you dare voice those concerns, then you're just a miserable person who like bitching.

So hush hush about it, k? You miserable little human being, you.

I'm neutral in the sense that I think it's important we give the people we were all so excited about and have done a great job otherwise the benefit of the doubt - that's all. I don't claim that Alex will be the best QB we've ever had - only that claiming that our franchise is doomed forever because of it is silly.

I do think comparing Alex (who has improved pretty much every year) to Cassel (who had a moderately OK year once) is completely unfair, but I've never claimed that Alex will be the team's savior.

Maybe that's what it comes down to - I get tired of everyone arguing whether things are black or white when I'd like to see more discussion about what shade of grey it is.

Why not?

They have the exact same characteristics as football players.

And even you aren't admitting that Cassel had TWO years that were "moderately OK."

Smith had 1.5 years that were moderately OK.

It's much better than living and dieing with the wins/losses, Yes you are correct in the end we're just fans. It's just a tossup of who we're stuck with to root for, fandom isn't always easy but it's much better when you learn your lucky shirt or taking a crap at a certain time has ZERO effect on how your team plays. ;)

Yeah, because i'm sure you and you're 91 posts have been here long enough to understand a culture that's been brewing since the DV era. Get outta here with that shit.

I find it odd that all of you happy, positive people are constantly having to take personal shots at these so called "Miserable" people, simply for not sticking their heads in the sand when it comes to this trade.

That wouldn't fit in with the drama queens status quo

I just do my thing. Those will similar attitudes will follow and gravitate, and I to them. Those who rightfully have issues will have their say, and those who just want to rain on parades are pretty easy to weed out.

I am with you BABY!

In 2009 There was a lot of grey, a lot of white, and very little bit of black. Because we're essentially doing the same thing yet again, you're simply seeing a shift and some people around here aren't able to cope with it.

Now we have a lot more who were gray, turning black and a lot more who were white, turning gray.

Here you go:
Bye

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09 - 8-8.......................10 (W-5)
10 - 6-10......................10 (W-3)
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I got over it today

What?

How does #34 overall equate to #16 overall?

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It's been said a lot. They are using this years second and the value of next years second and equating that to a mid first
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can ANYONE explain how 3-7 in 2010 is 'getting better every year' ? was it the awesome 59% completion ratio ?

please?