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OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-23-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 9523514)
The point is too get our two pick back and get younger and a cheaper LT. I like Albert but this business that he is not replaceable is crap. We can trade down and get more picks and still get an LT that will be just as good.

The Chiefs have been trying for several seasons to find a RT(still not solved). Replacing a LT will be snap!

NWTF 03-23-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9523653)
Reid called Albert a pro bowl caliber LT.

Yeah I think he also said championship caliber. But if they are going to get a 2nd they better sell him as such.

milkman 03-23-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9523639)
Lane Johnson gets beat inside too and he doesn't hold the point as well IMO.

As for Albert, I think he hit his ceiling in the 2011 ceiling. I think he's as good as he's gonna be at this point.

Are you ****ing high?

He wasn't as good in '11 as he was last year.

Put the pipe down.

Mav 03-23-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 9523333)
Hasn't exactly been dominant? He's easily been a top 10 tackle the last 2 years. And I have no idea what you're talking about with the $5M per year market. That's way off. Albert's franchise payment is $9.8M, which is the average elite LT compensation.

Take a look at how the best LTs are paid:

1. Jason Peters at Tackle $10,400,000
2. Joe Thomas at Tackle $10,000,000
3. Ryan Clady at Tackle $9,828,000 franchise tag
4. Brandon Albert at Tackle $9,828,000 franchise tag
5. Jordan Gross at Tackle$8,700,000
6. D'Brickashaw Ferguson at Tackle $7,250,000
7. Russell Okung at Tackle$7,060,000
8. Doug Free at Tackle $7,000,000
9. Michael Roos at Tackle $6,000,000
10. Gosder Cherilus at Tackle $5,500,000
http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/tackle/

LT is a premium position. And we have a very good one. You can see from the list that some of those guys aren't earning the contracts they got. But that's the market. Drafting a tackle because you can save money is idiotic any way you look at it. Some teams struggle to find good LTs. You're justifying letting a good one go and hoping to find a new one all for the sake of saving a few million dollars of Clark Hunt's money. WTF?

just going to point this out......Doug Free, is a right tackle. Tyron Smith is their Left Tackle. And Gosder Cherilus, is a right tackle as well, they had jeff backus, and are looking at drafting lane johnson, or eric fisher......

Mav 03-23-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9523365)
Yeah I hate it too. It would be more understandable if Albert wanted out, but everything I've read indicates he's more than happy playing LT for the Chiefs. I haven't been paying a lot of attention to the threads here regarding Albert, but I assume he just wants to get paid among the best LTs in the NFL and the Chiefs would rather trade him for more picks and replace him with the #1 pick that would cost less than what Albert's current asking price. Is that about right?

and about 7 years younger, leaving more cap space to resign guys that are going to be due soon like Eric Berry.

Rausch 03-23-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9523657)
In position drills at the combines when he was coming out, he had some of the quckest feet I've seen, which is the reason that the draft "experts" started pimpimg him as a LT. At the next level.

As a G he has quick feet.

The fact he's moved to LT from G and is even considered above average proves his natural athleticism.

Watch him. He plays like he's looking for the one punch. He's hand fumbling, hand fumbling, legs walking, walking, PUSH.

His whole game is finding that one point in your spin, your slap, your dig in that he can feel with his hands that allows him to then push you out and off...

penbrook 03-23-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 9523656)
What all did he say? I didn't catch all of it. I remember him saying hell no to the prospect of moving to RT.

Yes and hell no to guard.

He has shown to be a top 10 LT last year. Even with a ****fest of qbs.

With a solid qb I feel he can be Top 5-7 range.

Albert deserves to play LT

Mav 03-23-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9523606)
No one thinks that drafting a 1st round QB is the "only" way. No one.

But it is the BEST way.

And it's also the BEST way to win MULTIPLE Super Bowls.

You sure as **** ain't doing that with retreads and game managers.

I'm sure our fan base would have insisted on a 20-year contract extension for Trent Dilfer though.

Colin Kaepernick, and Russell Wilson, between them, are going to win quite a few super bowls......

a second and third round pick mind you.......

Dave Lane 03-23-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9523641)
If true that's playing just below a pro bowl level...

Reid says he is a pro bowl caliber LT.

Dave Lane 03-23-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9523679)
Colin Kaepernick, and Russell Wilson, between them, are going to win quite a few super bowls......

a second and third round pick mind you.......

Hey what happened to you bets pussy?

DTLB58 03-23-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9523679)
Colin Kaepernick, and Russell Wilson, between them, are going to win quite a few super bowls......

a second and third round pick mind you.......

Yea well, those of us old enough to remember thought the same thing of Marino.

Not saying they won't, but it's just not as easy as you make it sound.

Mav 03-23-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9523681)
Hey what happened to you bets pussy?

Your mom spent an hour sucking me off and convinced me not to rape your soul. That and you are a man of piss poor morale character, and wouldnt pay up.....

At least, i think that is what she said. It was mumbled........

Mav 03-23-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9523685)
Yea well, those of us old enough to remember thought the same thing of Marino.

Not saying they won't, but it's just not as easy as you make it sound.

Nods. I can agree with that. But with the way they are building those teams, i would bet before its said and done, that the number between them would be at least 3.........

Dave Lane 03-23-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan (Post 9523689)
Your mom spent an hour sucking me off and convinced me not to rape your soul. That and you are a man of piss poor morale character, and wouldnt pay up.....

At least, i think that is what she said. It was mumbled........

Lets make a bet on your previous grounds. Maybe $500 or $1000 to start. We can have a mod here hold the bet if you would like.

penbrook 03-23-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 9523661)
Yeah I think he also said championship caliber. But if they are going to get a 2nd they better sell him as such.

Nope he said Pro Bowl Caliber.

So why would you trade a Pro Bowl Caliber player than?


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