Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 8550399)

I think the assumption that the ilbs job is to only take up blockers is a way over simplification. Teams do pass on first and second down and when they do the ilb must drop..

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8548030)

**** that. Kuechly is basically the only pick that I would be pissed about.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8549615)

Do you guys see the Carolina Panthers surprising everybody by taking Kuechly instead of Fletcher Cox? They sucked up the middle last year but they WERE very young- two rookies Sione Fua and Terrell McClain. Plus this draft is exceptionally deep at defensive line.

It's not all that deep on Mike backers. Kuechly's an exceptionally talented one and would fill a need for Carolina.

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8549381)

That's incorrect. Kuechly is very effective in taking on blockers. He sheds blocks extremely well.

He's a better prospect than Derrick Johnson was at the same stage (no worry about the inability to self-motivate with Luke). He's more athletic/had better combine numbers than Pat Willis or Jerod Mayo.

He's a three down guy that can play sideline to sideline with incredible instincts.

You want a valid comparision? Think of London Fletcher combined with Brian Urlacher and you've got what Kuechly has the potential to be.

The guy is absolutely elite for the ILB/MLB position.

That being said, I don't think he's a "perfect" fit for the 34 defense that Crennel runs. However, if I was a 43, especially a Cover 2 43 team, I'd be looking at trying to acquire his services as much as possible. I don't see how Seattle passes on him and as such, I think he's the guy that the Chiefs will use to try to trade back down out of the #11 pick. Any 43 team with a question at the MLB spot is going to look hard at getting in front of Seattle to draft Kuechly. He is that good and merits a trade up if you need a MLB in a 43.

Originally Posted by 3 4 (Post 8550508)

I like Keuchly at 11. With Manning, Tivers, and Palmer in this division, those asshats are going to dink and dunk on us. I would like a player that will read a block before he has to gtet hiss ass beat by an ol pancaking him. Bootlegs and tollouts have killed the Chiefs. I berlieve Keuchley can solve alot of what the rest of the west will try and do. Old ass gunslinngers with nobody to throw to.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8550311)

No f'in way. Yet another person outside of this board with knowledge of football thinks a certain guard from Stanford is worth a Top 15 pick. He actually think he should be picked at #7. Anti-DeCastro posse unite and send nasty grams to Peter King and tell him how stupid he is because you just DO NOT under any circumstances take a guard that high. Only in unity can you get your message out to all those supposed "experts" who constantly see it otherwise.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8550543)

For Kuechly to be worth the 11 pick, he should have had 20+ tackles for loss, 6+ sacks and 4+ forced fumbles.

The guy had no sacks and didn't force a single fumble in like 200 tackles.

To me, that's a red flag.

Let's compare his impact to a guy like Mercilus that had 16 sacks and forced 9 fumbles last year, for example.

Kuechly allows teams to dink and dunk your defense with always making the tackle.

Mercilus forces bad throws, puts opposing offenses in long yardage situations and takes the ball away.

It shouldn't take you long to decide which guy would impact your team more out of those two.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8550911)

There are very few media types that have the contacts in the league that Peter King has, but when it comes to making observations about talent and such on his own, he's freakin' moron.

Originally Posted by Dmello12 (Post 8552752)

If we are really wanting to pick an Ilb with our first pick, i dont see why it would be Kuechly over Hightower. You add another pick. I think Hightower is just as good and just as athletic if not more, he for sure plays faster. I dont think the pick will be an Ilb anyways. Look up Mychal Kendricks from Cal a 2nd round pick who ran a 4.5 dude's crazy athletic

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 8552764)

Gotta have a partner to dance with. We have no clue who is or isn't interested in trading.

What you make it sound like is that taking Kuechly at 11 is better than trading down and taking Hightower.

No one is making that arguement though.

Pretty sure anyone with a brain prefers a trade down over anything else (staying at 11 for anyone, or moving up) at this point.

Originally Posted by Dmello12 (Post 8552777)

didnt mean that at all. I was arguing against that.

And its very likely a player will fall to 11 and a team jumps on it (i hope). Im just saying if that option is there Kuechly would not be worth staying place

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8550311)

No f'in way. Yet another person outside of this board with knowledge of football thinks a certain guard from Stanford is worth a Top 15 pick. He actually think he should be picked at #7. Anti-DeCastro posse unite and send nasty grams to Peter King and tell him how stupid he is because you just DO NOT under any circumstances take a guard that high. Only in unity can you get your message out to all those supposed "experts" who constantly see it otherwise.