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DBOSHO 08-10-2012 11:20 AM

Tyrann Matheu dismissed from LSU
 
@SportsCenter: BREAKING - @LSUCoachMiles announces that CB Tyrann Mathieu (@TM7_Era) has been dismissed from team for breaking a school rule

DBOSHO 08-10-2012 11:21 AM

Just saw this in the sec thread. Please delete

Dayze 08-10-2012 11:22 AM

NooB. ~

Mr. Laz 08-10-2012 11:22 AM

SEC thugs

RealSNR 08-10-2012 11:22 AM

Welcome to the Kansas Jayhawks

Dayze 08-10-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8805601)
Welcome to the Kansas Jayhawks

"So, lemme ask you this. ...How does 3 wins a year grab ya"? / Weiss

FD 08-10-2012 11:24 AM

Wow

DBOSHO 08-10-2012 11:25 AM

Thats going to hurt their championship aspirations.

RealSNR 08-10-2012 11:26 AM

Tyrann "Vontaze Burfict" Mathieu

Reaper16 08-10-2012 11:30 AM

He was only good as a returner anyway. A pretty average at BEST CB, often below-average.

RealSNR 08-10-2012 11:32 AM

Honey Badger don't care. He doesn't care about his stale nickname. He just plays where he wants as long as it's a 3rd rate program probably in Division II somewhere

Dave Lane 08-10-2012 11:42 AM

What would stop the Chiefs from contacting the guy and see if he wants to sign as a free agent?

Reaper16 08-10-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8805662)
What would stop the Chiefs from contacting the guy and see if he wants to sign as a free agent?

His terrible instincts in coverage, struggles in the mental game, and gneneral inability to play cornerback at the pro level, I would hope.

siberian khatru 08-10-2012 11:44 AM

Brent Musberger will have to find something else to talk -- and talk and talk and talk and talk -- about now.

BWillie 08-10-2012 11:48 AM

He musta did a white woman

sedated 08-10-2012 11:49 AM

That guy was a royal douchebag anyway.

saphojunkie 08-10-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8805667)
His terrible instincts in coverage, struggles in the mental game, and gneneral inability to play cornerback at the pro level, I would hope.

Can't do that. He has to wait until the next draft so every team has a chance of taking him.

If they allowed players to just leave school and sign, no QB would ever enter the draft. Just go to the highest bidder with the best situation.

vailpass 08-10-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8805662)
What would stop the Chiefs from contacting the guy and see if he wants to sign as a free agent?

HUH? Why do you think they have a draft?

Coach 08-10-2012 01:18 PM

The "REAL" Honey Badger resides in Manhattan Kansas.

He doesn't give a ****.

Mr. Laz 08-10-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8805662)
What would stop the Chiefs from contacting the guy and see if he wants to sign as a free agent?

ummm ... the rules?

BigMeatballDave 08-10-2012 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8806024)
ummm ... the rules?

LMAO

Predarat 08-10-2012 02:03 PM

When I saw this I was happy because I thought it said they were kicking Honey BooBoo off the TV.

DaKCMan AP 08-17-2012 07:48 AM

What a load of absolute crap. Now they're going to make him about to be a victim who is 'sick' and will focus on getting 'healthy'. Please...

Quote:

Tyrann Mathieu will sit out season and go through drug rehab

Tyrann Mathieu was dismissed from LSU last Friday and in the week after, little light had been shed on coach Les Miles' decision to let his Heisman Trophy candidate go.

That is until a Louisiana FOX affiliate reported that Mathieu had been in drug rehab since Monday according to the player's father. From the report:

[T]hey've now decided, as a family, that Tyrann will remain at a drug rehab center in Houston for the near future, instead of returning to classes at LSU or any other college - in order to play football this fall.

Mathieu's father, Tyrone, told FOX 8 Sports that he, Tyrann, and the Mathieu family are committed to getting his son healthy and that football will take care of itself.

Tyrann Mathieu has been at the Right Step recovery center since Monday under the direction of former NBA player John Lucas.

Mathieu was a unanimous first-team All-American and was a Heisman Trophy finalist as a sophomore in 2011. He led the SEC in forced fumbles with six and fumble recoveries with five.

Mathieu, nicknamed the "Honey Badger," was also a dynamic threat on special teams. He was ranked fourth nationally in punt return average (15.6 yards) and returned two back for scores.
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UC5LBallQfk

Saul Good 08-17-2012 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8825101)
What a load of absolute crap. Now they're going to make him about to be a victim who is 'sick' and will focus on getting 'healthy'. Please...



http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UC5LBallQfk

What's wrong with that? Isn't that better than just shipping him off to get high for a different team?

Black Bob 08-17-2012 08:25 AM

It's good he's going to rehab if he has a problem. Now when he gets out, I hope UGA gets him. That way we can get some payback for Mettenberger. They take the guy we boot. We take the guy they boot.

barry_smilez20 08-17-2012 08:30 AM

Is he addicted to pot? Lol

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8825101)
What a load of absolute crap. Now they're going to make him about to be a victim who is 'sick' and will focus on getting 'healthy'. Please...



http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UC5LBallQfk

never heard of drug addiction?

Bump 08-17-2012 08:34 AM

LSU parted ways with Mathieu a week ago after he failed multiple drug tests. According to the Fox affiliate in New Orleans, Mathieu has been in a drug rehab in Houston and will remain there for an undetermined amount of time. Former NBA player John Lucas, who reached out to Mathieu after his dismissal, runs the Right Step recovery center in Houston. Bruce Feldman of CBSsports.com says Mathieu has been there since Sunday battling marijuana addiction.


JESUS ****ING CHRIST THIS COUNTRY IS SO ****ING STUPID

Black Bob 08-17-2012 08:35 AM

From what I heard on the radio, his Dad is making him go.

DaKCMan AP 08-17-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825188)
never heard of drug addiction?

Never heard of celebrities and athletes going to rehab for 'addictions' that aren't really addiction?

It's a PR move, IMO.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8825196)
Never heard of celebrities and athletes going to rehab for 'addictions' that aren't really addiction?

It's a PR move, IMO.

he's a millionaire celebrity?

he's a professional athlete?

he's neither?

blaise 08-17-2012 08:38 AM

Marijuana addiction. Ok.

blaise 08-17-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825198)
he's a millionaire celebrity?

he's a professional athlete?

he's neither?

He aspires to be one.

Black Bob 08-17-2012 08:39 AM

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The Honey Badger's father, Tyrone Mathieu, tells FOX 8 Sports that he and Tyrann agree -- until he conquers his demons, he won't be successful at his future endeavors, wherever they unfold. The senior Mathieu says both Tyrann and his family are committed to restoring Tyrann's health, no matter what it takes, believing football will take care of itself down the road.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...44--ncaaf.html

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8825203)
He aspires to be one.

so?

blaise 08-17-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825208)
so?

So, I think it's a PR move because he thinks it will help him salvage whatever career he may have left.
I think that's more likely than him being so addicted to pot that he needs rehab.

Black Bob 08-17-2012 08:44 AM

I smoked pot every day for 10 years. My wife got pregnant and I had to get a job with benefits and they did random drug tests so I had to quit. It wasn't easy quitting. Not as hard as cigarettes but it wasn't easy...

barry_smilez20 08-17-2012 08:49 AM

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unoriginal, but necessary.

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vailpass 08-17-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8825212)
So, I think it's a PR move because he thinks it will help him salvage whatever career he may have left.
I think that's more likely than him being so addicted to pot that he needs rehab.

BINGO

Black Bob 08-17-2012 09:18 AM

I think his Dad is an ultra-religious Bible Belt guy who is making him go to save his soul. I really don't think it's about PR but you never know.

DaKCMan AP 08-17-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825198)
he's a millionaire celebrity?

he's a professional athlete?

he's neither?

:rolleyes:

He's an aspiring professional athlete. A highly successful one who was a Heisman runner-up last year. Previous Heisman candidates/winners who returned to school took out insurance policies against their future potential earnings/worth.

His image and reputation will highly affect his draft position which will directly affect his earning potential.

This is a PR move.

sedated 08-17-2012 09:50 AM

And I totally believe Tiger Woods was a “sex addict” too

:rolleyes:

Bambi 08-17-2012 10:11 AM

This is just a ploy to get him back on the LSU team.

Watch...in two weeks you'll start hearing words like "amazing recovery" and "miraculous change in attitude".

Then before you know it...BAM! On the field against Auburn.

Bowser 08-17-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8825361)
This is just a ploy to get him back on the LSU team.

Watch...in two weeks you'll start hearing words like "amazing recovery" and "miraculous change in attitude".

Then before you know it...BAM! On the field against Auburn.

Jesus, I actually agree with you. The Mayans were right.

I wouldn't be shocked in the least to see him back by week 2 or 3. It's just the way things work with "superstar" players.

O.city 08-17-2012 10:22 AM

Do you guys not want to see the best players on the field?

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8825212)
So, I think it's a PR move because he thinks it will help him salvage whatever career he may have left.
I think that's more likely than him being so addicted to pot that he needs rehab.

they're going to spend thousands on rehab for a fake addiction?

because the NFL doesn't draft pot smokers?

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8825315)
:rolleyes:

He's an aspiring professional athlete. A highly successful one who was a Heisman runner-up last year. Previous Heisman candidates/winners who returned to school took out insurance policies against their future potential earnings/worth.

His image and reputation will highly affect his draft position which will directly affect his earning potential.

This is a PR move.

is his family rich?

cuase if not, it's a hella expensive PR move...

RealSNR 08-17-2012 10:33 AM

Misleading thread title. Honey badgers don't go to rehab. Ban him from football.

sedated 08-17-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825410)
is his family rich?

cuase if not, it's a hella expensive PR move...

How much do you think those million dollar insurance policies cost? Families always seem to come up with the cash for that.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8825449)
How much do you think those million dollar insurance policies cost? Families always seem to come up with the cash for that.

a lot less than rehab...

buddha 08-17-2012 10:50 AM

The eternal question of, "how much blow would you have to do to get kicked off of a Les Miles team" has finally been answered.

blaise 08-17-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825405)
they're going to spend thousands on rehab for a fake addiction?

because the NFL doesn't draft pot smokers?

They don't care if he's a pot smoker. They care that he's a dumbass that gets caught. He needs to convince them he cares.

vailpass 08-17-2012 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825405)
they're going to spend thousands on rehab for a fake addiction?

because the NFL doesn't draft pot smokers?

To make millions next year? Absolutely. The agent will front the money if needed.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8825466)
They don't care if he's a pot smoker. They care that he's a dumbass that gets caught. He needs to convince them he cares.

loads of players get in trouble, don't go to rehab, and get drafted...the league only gives a shit about talent...

it doesn't make sense that they're shelling out $10,000 to prove something to league that doesn't require proof...but whatever...

Bowser 08-17-2012 11:01 AM

Is there something more to this story? If every college football coach kicked off every player they had that was "hooked" on the hoob, I'm thinking rosters everywhere would be pretty thin.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8825485)
To make millions next year? Absolutely. The agent will front the money if needed.

he has an agent?

who?

blaise 08-17-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825488)
loads of players get in trouble, don't go to rehab, and get drafted...the league only gives a shit about talent...

it doesn't make sense that they're shelling out $10,000 to prove something to league that doesn't require proof...but whatever...

You don't think teams factor character at all? Or are you under the impression he's so good no matter what he does it doesn't matter?

vailpass 08-17-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825494)
he has an agent?

who?

Sorry, should have said "in theses cases it isn't unusual for an agent to front the money". I am not aware of him having an agent.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8825496)
You don't think teams factor character at all? Or are you under the impression he's so good no matter what he does it doesn't matter?

character


everyone gets drafted...teams pay lip service to caring about that stuff

blaise 08-17-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825501)
character


everyone gets drafted...teams pay lip service to caring about that stuff

It factors. It might not make every team pass on you, but it can cost you position. No one's going to want to pay a guy a ton of money if he's too stupid to pass a drug test.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 11:06 AM

it would be cheaper, and easier, for him to simply transfer and dominate at another school, even if he has to drop a level

vailpass 08-17-2012 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825501)
character


everyone gets drafted...teams pay lip service to caring about that stuff

True. Character questions can drop you from the first round to the second or later though and that is millions of $$ so who knows?

vailpass 08-17-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825512)
it would be cheaper, and easier, for him to simply transfer and dominate at another school, even if he has to drop a level

Is it certain this isn't what he is going to do? That would make the most sense unless dude just can't handle college anymore or doesn't want to risk an injury.
Saw a report the other day saying verbiage out of LSU seemed to leave the door open for him to return next year.

SAUTO 08-17-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8825217)
I smoked pot every day for 10 years. My wife got pregnant and I had to get a job with benefits and they did random drug tests so I had to quit. It wasn't easy quitting. Not as hard as cigarettes but it wasn't easy...

LOL, weak minded people make me ROFL

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 11:29 AM

better for him to go into rehab and get his mind right

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 11:34 AM

i don't even know why I'm arguing, just bored


it just seems like more of a hassle to me - to go to rehab - than to just move on and say "I learned my lesson"...

certainly, rehab is not the common option for college players...though I bet many of them could genuinely use it

vailpass 08-17-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825615)
i don't even know why I'm arguing, just bored


it just seems like more of a hassle to me - to go to rehab - than to just move on and say "I learned my lesson"...

certainly, rehab is not the common option for college players...though I bet many of them could genuinely use it

Yeah. I mean, rehab for pot? Really? Didn't even know there was such a thing.

DaKCMan AP 08-17-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825488)
loads of players get in trouble, don't go to rehab, and get drafted...the league only gives a shit about talent...

it doesn't make sense that they're shelling out $10,000 to prove something to league that doesn't require proof...but whatever...

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825615)
i don't even know why I'm arguing, just bored


it just seems like more of a hassle to me - to go to rehab - than to just move on and say "I learned my lesson"...

certainly, rehab is not the common option for college players...though I bet many of them could genuinely use it

Tell that to Janoris Jenkins. Top 10-15 talent and production that fell to the 2nd round.

Titty Meat 08-17-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8825800)
Tell that to Janoris Jenkins. Top 10-15 talent and production that fell to the 2nd round.

Janoris Jenkins was also a criminal.

Buehler445 08-17-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8825460)
The eternal question of, "how much blow would you have to do to get kicked off of a Les Miles team" has finally been answered.

Not sure why, but I laughed pretty damn hard at that.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8825800)
Tell that to Janoris Jenkins. Top 10-15 talent and production that fell to the 2nd round.

tell him what? that he got drafted in spite of his problems

ok...it proves my point, but ok

DaKCMan AP 08-17-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8825879)
tell him what? that he got drafted in spite of his problems

ok...it proves my point, but ok

No, the point is the $10,000 (your figure) in rehab costs pale in comparison to the amount of money lost by Janoris by falling more than 20 spots in the draft.

Simplicity 08-17-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8825883)
No, the point is the $10,000 (your figure) in rehab costs pale in comparison to the amount of money lost by Janoris by falling more than 20 spots in the draft.

Still trying to figure out how every other sport you are a fan of a Florida team but football is KC. Story behind it?

Ceej 08-17-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8825916)
Still trying to figure out how every other sport you are a fan of a Florida team but football is KC. Story behind it?

Why the **** does it matter?

Completely irrelevant.

Xanathol 08-17-2012 01:22 PM

A few things to know...

1. it was "synthetic" pot and while I have no direct experience with the stuff, I do have a relative who was in a bad car accident when they freaked while on the stuff.

2. Word is, this was #3. LSU policy for athletes states 1st offense is basically nothing, 2nd is "15% of remaining games that season" suspension ( he missed the Auburn game for a rumored positive test last year ), #3 is mandatory 1 year suspension, entry into a program, etc, and #4 is permanently gone.

3. The football program will not comment on if he has a chance to come back in 2013 or not - despite what USA Today et al say ( they are connected to Glenn Guilbeau, a piece of shit in Shreveport who admittedly just wants to stir the pot ).


As for Tyrann himself, while I firmly believe people are responsible for their own actions no matter their upbringing, do realize that his biological mother is ( or was? ) a drug addict, his biological dad is in jail for murder, his grandpa who was raising him passed away when he was 5, and ever since he has been raised by his Aunt & Uncle ( now know as his real parents ) in a rather rough area.

Those things aren't excuses - they are facts. So when I hear he's in a rehab program, I have to believe its legitimate; not just for addiction, but also to get away from a bad crowd that was rumored he still hung out with despite those folks not even being enrolled at LSU.

As for a 'PR move by LSU to get him back on the team'... well, that's just ignorant. Les Miles kicked Ryan Perrilloux off the team, a starting QB who reminded many of Micheal Vick in college. That loss led to LSU's mess at QB with Jefferson and Lee for the years to come. LSU has only ever had one major violation and it was recently when an assistant coach lined up a JuCo guy to get the apartment of a former player ( note - Hicks, who was just drafted this year by the Saints, paid for the apartment himself ) and made too many calls to said player. Hicks never played a snap and was removed from the team before the season even started, the coach was "allowed to find a new job elsewhere", the incident was self reported, and the self imposed sanctions were actually lightened by the NCAA ( 2 schollie loss down to 1 and such ). LSU doesn't mess around.

Simplicity 08-17-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 8825930)
Why the **** does it matter?

Completely irrelevant.

Is this thread relavant to CHIEFSPlanet? No, so stfu.

Ceej 08-17-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8825957)
Is this thread relavant to CHIEFSPlanet? No, so stfu.

Yup, you're still a young, punk kid.

Simplicity 08-17-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 8825964)
Yup, you're still a young, punk kid.

Yup, you're still a old pos.

the Talking Can 08-17-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xanathol (Post 8825955)
A few things to know...

1. it was "synthetic" pot and while I have no direct experience with the stuff, I do have a relative who was in a bad car accident when they freaked while on the stuff.

2. Word is, this was #3. LSU policy for athletes states 1st offense is basically nothing, 2nd is "15% of remaining games that season" suspension ( he missed the Auburn game for a rumored positive test last year ), #3 is mandatory 1 year suspension, entry into a program, etc, and #4 is permanently gone.

3. The football program will not comment on if he has a chance to come back in 2013 or not - despite what USA Today et al say ( they are connected to Glenn Guilbeau, a piece of shit in Shreveport who admittedly just wants to stir the pot ).


As for Tyrann himself, while I firmly believe people are responsible for their own actions no matter their upbringing, do realize that his biological mother is ( or was? ) a drug addict, his biological dad is in jail for murder, his grandpa who was raising him passed away when he was 5, and ever since he has been raised by his Aunt & Uncle ( now know as his real parents ) in a rather rough area.

Those things aren't excuses - they are facts. So when I hear he's in a rehab program, I have to believe its legitimate; not just for addiction, but also to get away from a bad crowd that was rumored he still hung out with despite those folks not even being enrolled at LSU.

As for a 'PR move by LSU to get him back on the team'... well, that's just ignorant. Les Miles kicked Ryan Perrilloux off the team, a starting QB who reminded many of Micheal Vick in college. That loss led to LSU's mess at QB with Jefferson and Lee for the years to come. LSU has only ever had one major violation and it was recently when an assistant coach lined up a JuCo guy to get the apartment of a former player ( note - Hicks, who was just drafted this year by the Saints, paid for the apartment himself ) and made too many calls to said player. Hicks never played a snap and was removed from the team before the season even started, the coach was "allowed to find a new job elsewhere", the incident was self reported, and the self imposed sanctions were actually lightened by the NCAA ( 2 schollie loss down to 1 and such ). LSU doesn't mess around.


does an alarm sound when someone posts about LSU on teh interwebs?

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