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DRU 10-09-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8993315)
How can he say neither INT was Cassel's fault? Ok, the first one to Bowe there was clear PI. However, Bowe was double-triple covered and Maneri was flying wide open with no one within 10 yards of him. Cassel never should have thrown the damn ball there in the first place.

The 2nd INT Bowe should have caught but again, it was high and slightly behind.

Exactly. Tipped balls are going to happen. When you throw into triple coverage and it's tipped the odds of the INT are much higher than when you throw into single coverage...or like you said...when the guy is WIDE F**ING OPEN!

He can't follow progressions. We all know this. He throws high and wide to his first read or he checks down. Defenses know all of this as well, and they're generating turnovers because of it.

Micjones 10-09-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8993025)
Wrong. That was on Bowe. I hate Cassel as much as anyone, but Bowe should have made that catch. Not every pass from elite QBs are on target, and sometimes they throw high. Bowe wants to be paid like a top 5-10 receiver. A top 5-10 receiver makes that catch and so should he.

It wasn't just thrown high. It was thrown high AND behind him.
Horrible placement. Not sure how Bowe's responsible for that.

tredadda 10-09-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 8994955)
It wasn't just thrown high. It was thrown high AND behind him.
Horrible placement. Not sure how Bowe's responsible for that.

This throw was not like the Moeaki INT against SD. With this throw, Bowe's hands were on it. The fact of the matter is this, Bowe wants to be paid like Fitz, he needs to play like it. Fitzgerald makes that catch as does Megatron, Andre Johnson etc..... Cassel is not a good QB and most INTs are his fault, but at some point the receivers need to be held accountable instead of blaming Cassel for every pass that is not perfect out of blind hatred for the man. This INT was on Bowe.

htismaqe 10-09-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8994988)
This throw was not like the Moeaki INT against SD. With this throw, Bowe's hands were on it. The fact of the matter is this, Bowe wants to be paid like Fitz, he needs to play like it. Fitzgerald makes that catch as does Megatron, Andre Johnson etc..... Cassel is not a good QB and most INTs are his fault, but at some point the receivers need to be held accountable instead of blaming Cassel for every pass that is not perfect out of blind hatred for the man. This INT was on Bowe.

How many times does Bowe have to MAKE catches like this before people get it?

This fanbase is cursed for a reason.

:rolleyes:

MIAdragon 10-09-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8992820)
Brady Quinn strikes me as a guy who will go out and throw 4 picks instead of checking it down.

Different kind of suck, incoming.

Id take that ALL day over watching fetal checkdown. At least take some shots.

tredadda 10-09-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8995026)
How many times does Bowe have to MAKE catches like this before people get it?

This fanbase is cursed for a reason.

:rolleyes:

The catch would not have been a Sportscenter highlight catch. A top 5 receiver makes the catch Bowe did not make and they do it quite regularly. If he wants to get paid like one he SHOULD be expected to make that catch. This is not a defense of Cassel, but holding Bowe blameless on the INT is ridiculous.

Ace Gunner 10-09-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8995026)
How many times does Bowe have to MAKE catches like this before people get it?

This fanbase is cursed for a reason.

:rolleyes:

The thing is, Bowe wasn't ready for that pass. That is a problem with Bowe.

Buckweath 10-09-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8995047)
The catch would not have been a Sportscenter highlight catch. A top 5 receiver makes the catch Bowe did not make and they do it quite regularly. If he wants to get paid like one he SHOULD be expected to make that catch. This is not a defense of Cassel, but holding Bowe blameless on the INT is ridiculous.

Bowe is not a top 5 WR. Fact is everything goes wrong with Cassell throwing the ball.

htismaqe 10-09-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8995047)
The catch would not have been a Sportscenter highlight catch. A top 5 receiver makes the catch Bowe did not make and they do it quite regularly. If he wants to get paid like one he SHOULD be expected to make that catch. This is not a defense of Cassel, but holding Bowe blameless on the INT is ridiculous.

Top 5 WRs drop passes like that ALL THE TIME.

Is Bowe blameless on that pass? No.

Is nitpicking Bowe for EVERY INDIVIDUAL bad play beyond the point of ridiculousness? Absolutely.

With the problems this team has, people want to micro-analyze one of the FEW GOOD players we have. Reprehensible.

htismaqe 10-09-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare (Post 8995070)
The thing is, Bowe wasn't ready for that pass. That is a problem with Bowe.

For every 1 problem with Bowe, there's a THOUSAND solutions.

Fans in other cities would LOVE to have Dwayne Bowe so don't worry, he'll be able to oblige them in the offseason.

It will be so fun watching Cassel play next year without Bowe dropping the ball all the time. :rolleyes:

Ace Gunner 10-09-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8995109)
For every 1 problem with Bowe, there's a THOUSAND solutions.

Fans in other cities would LOVE to have Dwayne Bowe so don't worry, he'll be able to oblige them in the offseason.

It will be so fun watching Cassel play next year without Bowe dropping the ball all the time. :rolleyes:

Other than the couple of easy receptions he has dropped this season (a recurring theme, maybe:rolleyes:) Bowe has played his best football. He is elite now because overall his play is consistent and he is beating cover regularly. I like how he slimmed down and gets some explosion out his breaks. He needs to acquire a taste for blood. He needs to make plays like this one though, got to be hungry for that ball. He does this and he is going to be among the best.

alanm 10-09-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8995109)
For every 1 problem with Bowe, there's a THOUSAND solutions.

Fans in other cities would LOVE to have Dwayne Bowe so don't worry, he'll be able to oblige them in the offseason.

It will be so fun watching Cassel play next year without Bowe dropping the ball all the time. :rolleyes:

I'm holding out hope that with a new GM that holding on to Bowe becomes a priority. Along with the same new GM hiring a decent HC. :thumb:

-King- 10-09-2012 03:41 PM

What's Winston's PFF rating and ranking?

Hammock Parties 10-09-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8996348)
What's Winston's PFF rating and ranking?

He's the same player he's always been. He's a good player.

And a big, dumb jock.

philfree 10-09-2012 10:11 PM

Poe has not shown up as a liability as the raw player is was drafted as. How's he rating out?


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