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pr_capone 11-14-2012 10:50 PM

Fellas... we are talking about Pioli here. There is no question in my mind that he would pick the shittiest QB out of the bunch. If pioli is in charge of the draft in 2013, the pick will undoubtedly be Landry Jones or Collin Klein.

BossChief 11-14-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9119938)
Wasn't hard to see what the appropriate course of action was. Cassel desperately needed to compete for his job after last year. He had been an utter dogshit QB dating back to 2010 vs Oakland.

Yet Pioli treated him like he was a top 10 QB.

And now he should lose his job over it.

I honestly believe he's not very smart at all.

Do you listen to Colin Cowherd?

He has mentioned Pioli more than a time or two over the last couple weeks and is always clowning his football acumen.

The last one that immediately comes to mind was when he was talking with someone (I think it was Tedy Bruschi if you want to look up the show or something for a sound bite) and they were talking about Jerry Jones and how little he knows about the intricacies of the game. they sighted a time when Jerry Jones was talking about what had happened to Romo at the end of a game and Jerry said something very "pre school NFL" quality like "They ran a zone type of defense" showing that he didnt even know that the team had run a combo defense and that usually confuses Romo.

Colin immediately started talking about times when he had talked to Scott Pioli and how he got that same feeling from him. That he didnt really know the game at this level very well. He was actually laughing about it.

You could hear Bruschi chuckle, but not comment...we all know why.

I feel bamboozled and should have seen the signs that were all there going back to Piolis first day on the job.

Props go to guys like Talking can, Dane,Hamas and Deez for identifying these things immediately and sticking with their guns.

Those are some of the best posters this site has to offer IMO....even though I disagree with some of them from time to time.

BossChief 11-14-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 9119944)
Fellas... we are talking about Pioli here. There is no question in my mind that he would pick the shittiest QB out of the bunch. If pioli is in charge of the draft in 2013, the pick will undoubtedly be Landry Jones or Collin Klein.

the guy got to see Matt Cassel every day for 4 years after the time he spent actually scouting him...and STILL traded a premium pick for him and gave him the biggest contract in Chiefs history.

Ebolapox 11-14-2012 11:06 PM

Teo could be ray freaking lewis--and I wouldn't use the first overall pick on him. positional value=QB. end of story.

BossChief 11-14-2012 11:07 PM

Teo is NOT Ray Lewis.

Not even close.

Ebolapox 11-14-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9119994)
Teo is NOT Ray Lewis.

Not even close.

yeah. I know. I was making a point, stanzi.

007 11-14-2012 11:08 PM

none of the above.

RealSNR 11-14-2012 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9119956)

I feel bamboozled and should have seen the signs that were all there going back to Piolis first day on the job.

Props go to guys like Talking can, Dane,Hamas and Deez for identifying these things immediately and sticking with their guns.

Those are some of the best posters this site has to offer IMO....even though I disagree with some of them from time to time.

I loved the hire.

Then the Cassel trade happened. I started to get worried. Then the 2009 draft happened

I knew deep down as soon as that happened that we were screwed, but I foolishly kept buying more and more Pioli stock. I said multiple times in early 2009 that I felt sorry for the dumbass team who would wind up trading for Matt Cassel. I knew Jackson was shit. I listened to the endless empty sophistry and bullshit that came from his mouth. But I still believed in him as some football wizard.

It actually took the playoff loss to the Ravens for me to realize that Scott Pioli was a braindead moron who got to the top of the NFL by keeping his nose firmly attached to Bill Parcells' rectum. But by then it was too late.

Absolutely kudos should go to those posters who not only saw this shit stain for what he was at the beginning but also were able to admit to themselves that Pioli was a giant walking vomit stain of a mistake.

tredadda 11-14-2012 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9119596)
He lets Albert walk and drafts whatever the top LT is.

Or lets Dorsey walk and replace him with the top SEC d-lineman.

Cephalic Trauma 11-14-2012 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9119930)
Really?

In 2011, for only 3 games with Kyle Orton as the starter we beat 2 playoff teams and should have won all three games.

I dont think we would have been blown out of any of our games thus far and would be anywhere from 4-5 to 7-2.

Not only that, we would have a young franchise quarterback developing and a very bright future.

Were you insinuating that would only be marginally a better situation?

Oh well, in th grand scheme of things...if we end up drafting Geno Smith we are better off that way.

Geno Smith + Dontari Poe > Ryan Tannehill and Teo.

I think Teo is another Kuechly or Aaron Curry.

We would be in a much better situation than we are now because the only way we can go is up. I just don't think the Sherman-led dolphins offense (with tannehill) is anything special, and Orton wouldn't make up for the fact that this team has way too many holes. Anything is an upgrade over what we have as our OC/QB combo now, but I still think this team has too many holes to be competitive.

But i do agree that Geno would lead to a brighter future if his ability translates well to the pro game.

Cephalic Trauma 11-14-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9119938)
Wasn't hard to see what the appropriate course of action was. Cassel desperately needed to compete for his job after last year. He had been an utter dogshit QB dating back to 2010 vs Oakland.

Yet Pioli treated him like he was a top 10 QB.

And now he should lose his job over it.

I honestly believe he's not very smart at all.

I agree with all of that. But with Orton, I'm not so sure we would be in position for the #1 pick. What would be better for the long term?

BossChief 11-14-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9120002)
I loved the hire.

Then the Cassel trade happened. I started to get worried. Then the 2009 draft happened

I knew deep down as soon as that happened that we were screwed, but I foolishly kept buying more and more Pioli stock. I said multiple times in early 2009 that I felt sorry for the dumbass team who would wind up trading for Matt Cassel. I knew Jackson was shit. I listened to the endless empty sophistry and bullshit that came from his mouth. But I still believed in him as some football wizard.

It actually took the playoff loss to the Ravens for me to realize that Scott Pioli was a braindead moron who got to the top of the NFL by keeping his nose firmly attached to Bill Parcells' rectum. But by then it was too late.

Absolutely kudos should go to those posters who not only saw this shit stain for what he was at the beginning but also were able to admit to themselves that Pioli was a giant walking vomit stain of a mistake.

I still love his 2010 and 2011 drafts...the last two free agency classes were above average.

I also loved the Todd Haley hire and still think he will be an exceptional coach.

That said, EVERYTHING ELSE was a complete and utter failure with his crowning jewel being his double and tripling down on Matt Cassel.

Hammock Parties 11-14-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 9120012)
I agree with all of that. But with Orton, I'm not so sure we would be in position for the #1 pick. What would be better for the long term?

I agree completely. I'm glad Pioli didn't sign Orton because we'd be stuck in mediocrity hell.

Hammock Parties 11-14-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9120028)
I still love his 2010 and 2011 drafts...

Yeah, you love McCluster despite the fact that he is the most drop-prone wide receiver in the NFL basically.

Arenas finally had a good game so you can trumpet that for a week until Andrew Hawkins is toasting his short, slow ass.

tredadda 11-14-2012 11:18 PM

I think he will take Landry Jones. That is if he is still here which I hope he is not. Jones seems like such a Pioli guy. Questionable talent protected by fantastic talent. Also based off of the TJ and Poe picks it is clear Pioli is not a fan of picking a sure thing.


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