Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9413189)

So we're not worried about Reid actually finding a QB that can PLAY?

BTW, Matt Moore was the best QB in that class, so Reid reached on Kolb by quite a large margin. At least he was able to put together the smoke and mirrors and convince the Cardinals Kolb was worth something, even though Reid himself knew he wasn't.

As for Reid's way with QBs, name them. Outside of Donovan McNabb, who was the #2 overall pick (and a GREAT pick by Reid, btw. He identified the best QB in THAT class by a mile), what QB "magic" has Reid actually performed?

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9413194)

It just kept him in line with the other QB's in the back end of the first round talk.

It wasn't about being better than the the other QB's as much as it was about raising his own stock to be worth a top 10 pick.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9413107)

We already have a left tackle that fits what Reid wants to do.

As evidenced by the fact that Reid tried to trade up to get him in the draft.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9413207)

I will say this though. With Barkley not throwing this week, that is a huge benefit to Geno, but he has to have a completely great week in all phases to get into the top 10.
He can't just look good throwing short and intermediate passes. He has to nail them all. And he has to nail the interviews.

But that's basically what every other QB has to do too.

I doubt he'll look better than Glennon throwing the deep ball since Glennon puts great velocity and solid accuracy on his deep passes.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9413207)

I will say this though. With Barkley not throwing this week, that is a huge benefit to Geno, but he has to have a completely great week in all phases to get into the top 10.
He can't just look good throwing short and intermediate passes. He has to nail them all. And he has to nail the interviews.

But that's basically what every other QB has to do too.

I doubt he'll look better than Glennon throwing the deep ball since Glennon puts great velocity and solid accuracy on his deep passes.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9413198)

When it comes to the KC Chiefs QB, I'm a pessimistic, jaded, cynical asshole. I guess Matt Cassel can do that to you.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9413207)

I will say this though. With Barkley not throwing this week, that is a huge benefit to Geno, but he has to have a completely great week in all phases to get into the top 10.
He can't just look good throwing short and intermediate passes. He has to nail them all. And he has to nail the interviews.

But that's basically what every other QB has to do too.

I doubt he'll look better than Glennon throwing the deep ball since Glennon puts great velocity and solid accuracy on his deep passes.

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9413209)

I thought Vick was done, no chance of getting back to what he was. Other than that, he got something for backups. And there wasn't a year he had no QB. It'll be nice to have the coach that grooms the backups that team are willing to trade for.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9413189)

So we're not worried about Reid actually finding a QB that can PLAY?

BTW, Matt Moore was the best QB in that class, so Reid reached on Kolb by quite a large margin. At least he was able to put together the smoke and mirrors and convince the Cardinals Kolb was worth something, even though Reid himself knew he wasn't.

As for Reid's way with QBs, name them. Outside of Donovan McNabb, who was the #2 overall pick (and a GREAT pick by Reid, btw. He identified the best QB in THAT class by a mile), what QB "magic" has Reid actually performed?

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9413227)

They said the same thing about Newton and he nailed almost all of the deep passing drills.

Geno is in position to do the same.

As for Glennon, for most teams, the deep passes are going to be offset by his erratic throwing in the 10-30 range.

You can get drafted throwing a rocket deep ball but you can't make a living in the NFL playing shitty in the intermediate passing game.

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9413217)

I agree, but if they don't get him back, then no we dont. Also, we are changing schemes to a pure pass attack -- Joeckel is better by quite a bit than Albert is at pass blocking. Albert is a good LT for what he is, but Joeckel is and always will be a better pass blocker. It might just come down to that for this staff -- if you're going to pay the man, make sure of your options and pay the right man for the job. I believe this is why Albert got so pissed off at the new staff last week -- they want him to sign (accordingly) and play guard.

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9413231)

By the way, Kolb is still the best QB AZ has, and was playing well before he got hurt last year. Moore might be better, but they're in the same ballpark.

If you're gonna try to argue Reid isn't as good with QBs as people think, you're gonna fail.

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9413231)

If you're gonna try to argue Reid isn't as good with QBs as people think, you're gonna fail.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9413232)

Actually, credit to DJ for this, Flacco is somewhat proving otherwise.


If you have a guy who isn't damn accurate in the short intermediate zone, but throws a deep ball well, throw it deep. When you hit, it will more offset the shitty accuracy short.