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OnTheWarpath15 07-28-2013 08:08 AM

Where's all the talent?
 
I've done a few mock drafts recently, and I keep noticing that once you get past the R5/R6 mark, things seem to really drop off.

In past years, that's where I made serious gains on the other owners. Maybe it's just me, but the later rounds are filled with complete trash this year. Especially at RB.

I'm supposed to get excited about Mendenhall as a RB3?

The Bad Guy 07-28-2013 08:54 AM

Agreed. That's why I have to get my RBs early this year. There's no sleeper RB that stands out this year and the receiver depth is plenty.

OnTheWarpath15 07-28-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9840253)
Agreed. That's why I have to get my RBs early this year. There's no sleeper RB that stands out this year and the receiver depth is plenty.

I'm picking 4th in a snake draft, and it's looking like I'm ****ed coming back in the 2nd round.

Might need to work a trade to move back in the 1st, opening up some options in the 2nd.

The Bad Guy 07-28-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9840260)
I'm picking 4th in a snake draft, and it's looking like I'm ****ed coming back in the 2nd round.

Might need to work a trade to move back in the 1st, opening up some options in the 2nd.

I think you'd be fine staying there and ending up with 2 top 10 backs.

People are really sleeping on Shady McCoy this year. I was able to get him 14th overall in one league.

OnTheWarpath15 07-28-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9840276)
I think you'd be fine staying there and ending up with 2 top 10 backs.

People are really sleeping on Shady McCoy this year. I was able to get him 14th overall in one league.

No way. Top 10 backs are gone by pick 14. The best I've been able to do is CJ2K at 21, otherwise it's guys like Gore, Wilson or MJD.

The last mock I did went RB from pick 1-14 before Megatron went at 15 and Rodgers at 16.

RealSNR 07-28-2013 10:31 AM

As much as I like this guy and think he'll be a good player in the league, LeVeon freakin Bell has been coming off the board in the 3rd round.

That's how insane people are for RBs this year. One reason why I really wanted the auction, so I wouldn't have to cripple my strategy to avoid being short at RB.

As a result, you're going to have teams loading up on RBs, then getting whatever remaining QBs and WRs are left over. The quality ones will be obtained entirely based on draft position.

Pretty boring year in FF. There are going to be so many cookie cutter teams, and the team that comes out on top is probably going to be the one that gets the luckiest.

Ceej 07-28-2013 10:38 AM

I really like Montee Ball too.

I've talked with some people who are intending on taking him super early too.

OnTheWarpath15 07-28-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9840397)
As much as I like this guy and think he'll be a good player in the league, LeVeon freakin Bell has been coming off the board in the 3rd round.

That's how insane people are for RBs this year. One reason why I really wanted the auction, so I wouldn't have to cripple my strategy to avoid being short at RB.

As a result, you're going to have teams loading up on RBs, then getting whatever remaining QBs and WRs are left over. The quality ones will be obtained entirely based on draft position.

Pretty boring year in FF. There are going to be so many cookie cutter teams, and the team that comes out on top is probably going to be the one that gets the luckiest.

I'm considering shortening the bench considerably for this exact reason.

I play in a league with no flex and 14 roster spots. Can't stockpile positions in that format, without crippling yourself somewhere else.

I'm thinking flex and 5 bench spots.

Pablo 07-28-2013 11:47 AM

Wow. I just did my first mock of the year and I'm floored at how atrocious the RB's are this year. LOL. I suppose I'm pretty lucky in the fact that I have pick number 2 in a 12 man snake draft; so I'll get a stud RB1. And it's a keeper league so I suppose I'm holding onto Sproles for a 7th rounder. But, my flex and RB3 will probably have to be some hot garbage.

****ing Leveon Bell and Lamar Miller in the 3rd round. ****. Me.

The Franchise 07-28-2013 10:44 PM

Should I keep Doug Martin for a 4th rounder then? Right now I'm keeping Kaepernick for a 16th rounder.

DrRyan 07-28-2013 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9842288)
Should I keep Doug Martin for a 4th rounder then? Right now I'm keeping Kaepernick for a 16th rounder.

I would keep Martin over Kaepernick for sure. Martin will be a top 4 pick in most every league and have seen him go 2 in numerous mocks. QB is much deeper than RB this year. I have been drafting Stafford in the seventh in many mocks and I feel Romo is undervalued going in the 8-9 range as well.

Ceej 08-06-2013 06:12 PM

Danario Alexander and Jordy Nelson hurt. Geez.

Cobb (especially) and James Jones with tremendous value. And maybe even (EEK!) Jermichael Finley.

TambaBerry 08-06-2013 06:17 PM

This is why I got stuck with Charles and Chris Johnson.

DTLB58 08-06-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9840253)
Agreed. That's why I have to get my RBs early this year. There's no sleeper RB that stands out this year and the receiver depth is plenty.

I like Ahmad Bradshaw, now with the Colts as a nice sleeper. He probably won't start the season. But I like him to put up some decent #'s by seasons end.

DaKCMan AP 08-07-2013 06:57 AM

I'm in a 14 team league that's been going for over a decade. It's not keeper or anything but draft order is reverse standings from the prior year.

The participants as a whole wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overvalue QBs so I expect 10 QBs to go in the first round (insane, I know).

Depending on how things shake out I'm thinking I'll either select 2 RBs off the bat at #13 and #16 or a QB/RB at #13/#16. I'm pretty sure the guy who has #14 & #15 will select a QB & RB.

By the end of round 4 I'd like to have a QB, 1 or 2 RB, 1 TE (Jimmy Graham), and maybe a WR (but prob RB #2).

ChiefGator 08-09-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9864422)
I'm in a 14 team league that's been going for over a decade. It's not keeper or anything but draft order is reverse standings from the prior year.

The participants as a whole wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overvalue QBs so I expect 10 QBs to go in the first round (insane, I know).

Depending on how things shake out I'm thinking I'll either select 2 RBs off the bat at #13 and #16 or a QB/RB at #13/#16. I'm pretty sure the guy who has #14 & #15 will select a QB & RB.

By the end of round 4 I'd like to have a QB, 1 or 2 RB, 1 TE (Jimmy Graham), and maybe a WR (but prob RB #2).

Are you in my league? No ma'amers...

We used to do 2 QBs starting and six points for a passing TD.

We still have 1 QB and 1 totally open flex, but we went down to 4 points passing, but the 1st round is still 60% QBs.

But the thing is, it's a closed economy.. so if you want a decent QB, you need to take him early.

Skyy God 08-10-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9864422)
I'm in a 14 team league that's been going for over a decade. It's not keeper or anything but draft order is reverse standings from the prior year.

The participants as a whole wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overvalue QBs so I expect 10 QBs to go in the first round (insane, I know).

Depending on how things shake out I'm thinking I'll either select 2 RBs off the bat at #13 and #16 or a QB/RB at #13/#16. I'm pretty sure the guy who has #14 & #15 will select a QB & RB.

By the end of round 4 I'd like to have a QB, 1 or 2 RB, 1 TE (Jimmy Graham), and maybe a WR (but prob RB #2).

Good luck getting Graham in the 3rd round of a 14 team....

RealSNR 08-11-2013 10:48 AM

I've accepted that I'll be reaching on RBs. One of my leagues is a standard 12-team with no PPR and an extra WR/TE flex on top of the normal starting lineup. I pick 2nd.

My plan is to get Jamaal Charles at 2, then pick from either a QB who falls, (very unlikely) Chris Johnson, or one of the top WRs not named Calvin or AJ (because they'll be gone). If all of those players are gone, I'm not content with DeMarco Murray, Lamar Miller, David Wilson, or Darren McFadden, who would be suggested to me through the ADP rankings. I'm way higher on LeVeon Bell than any of those RBs.

I might go Reggie Bush then Bell, and at least I'll have a very good flex RB. Starting WRs can be had in the 4-5 rounds depending on what kind of QBs are there when I pick again. TE... eh, chalk the position up to Owen Daniels in the late rounds I guess.

It's not a sexy way to draft at all, and I doubt I can get a championship this way. I'm going to rely on picking sleepers late in the draft (like perhaps Colin Kaepernick) in order for it to sizzle

OnTheWarpath15 08-11-2013 10:52 AM

I'm actually considering moving back from 4th to 7th for exactly that reason, SNR.

It's only a 3 pick difference, but it seems like I can get pretty much any RB2 I want at 18, but end up less-than-thrilled with my choices at 21.

DeezNutz 08-11-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9876315)
I'm actually considering moving back from 4th to 7th for exactly that reason, SNR.

It's only a 3 pick difference, but it seems like I can get pretty much any RB2 I want at 18, but end up less-than-thrilled with my choices at 21.

It's almost a better year to draft 12 of 12 than #1 overall.

OnTheWarpath15 08-11-2013 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9876332)
It's almost a better year to draft 12 of 12 than #1 overall.

A couple of the mocks I've done from 7 have ended up with better rosters when I take Megatron in R1 than the mocks from 4 taking an elite RB first.

The Poz 08-11-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9876332)
It's almost a better year to draft 12 of 12 than #1 overall.

That's where I'm drafting. Snake draft. 12 then 13.
Guys in my league jump on QB's pretty early so I'm sure I'll land 2 good RB's at my spot. I have high hopes for S-Jax this year in Atl. He could see the end zone quite a bit on that team.

RealSNR 08-11-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9876332)
It's almost a better year to draft 12 of 12 than #1 overall.

Drafting early has home run potential, though, I'll give it that. If a great player (like Jimmy Graham) falls to you in the 2nd round, you're set up like a champ far more than a team who drafts late.

The problem is you're just as likely to find yourself drafting at the turnaround with Brees and Rodgers gone, as well as Graham and all the proven rushers that make nice RB2s like Forte, Jackson, Ridley, and CJ. You gotta hope that AJ Green falls to you. If not, yeah... go with Bush, I guess? Julio Jones maybe.

DeezNutz 08-11-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9876423)
Drafting early has home run potential, though, I'll give it that. If a great player (like Jimmy Graham) falls to you in the 2nd round, you're set up like a champ far more than a team who drafts late.

The problem is you're just as likely to find yourself drafting at the turnaround with Brees and Rodgers gone, as well as Graham and all the proven rushers that make nice RB2s like Forte, Jackson, Ridley, and CJ. You gotta hope that AJ Green falls to you. If not, yeah... go with Bush, I guess? Julio Jones maybe.

Bush in a PPR league could be league-winner, IMO.

The Poz 08-11-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9876427)
Bush in a PPR league could be league-winner, IMO.

Bush is on my radar but I worry about Leshoure stealing the red zone touches.


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