That's because Koppen sat out the minicamps and OTA's.

What I said is that this was the first time he'd essentially taken "live" snaps at center and in no way, shape or form was he expected to be the starting center in 2013.

The snaps up until now at TC were not "live," but the ones today were? What do you mean by live?

In pads, not shorts.

Hey, maybe Ramirez becomes a stud center but after six years in the league, the guy has been a backup for most of career and has logged only 26 starts, all at guard.

To act as if he was the starting center for 2013 is nonsense.

Here's more proof:

Manny Ramirez gets first crack at replacing Koppen

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lacing-koppen/

No, it has not.

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ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL Knowshon is the best RB so far?

One and done means One game PLAYED not one game WON.

I think that's how most people think of it regardless of how urban dictionary defines it.

For example: http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...tseason-trips/

They were in pads Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, all of which featured Ramirez playing center for the first string offense.

But maybe you should keep posting things written by guys who haven't been at TC.

They didn't wear pads for the first time until Saturday.

Thanks for the clarification. Apparently that is very important to Dane.

Manny Ramirez has a lot of attitude and no one wants him in baseball anymore so the donkos should......Oh wait...

Well, let's compare:

One team lost one of their best players because the GM couldn't operate a fax machine, another one of their best players will be missing 4 games because he couldn't stay away from the weed and ecstacy, two of their front office executives had DUI's, and their starting center just tore his ACL.

The other team is a more-or-less anonymous suck-ass team with no major controversy now that their dumbass GM and coach are gone.

I'd say the Donks are by far the bigger circus.

Losing Koppen hurts. Only good part is it happened early.

I find it interesting how the difference between "one dimensional liability against the run" and "one of our best players" was apparently a single fax.

The fax machine was on Dumervil not us. The Broncos waited until 2 minutes before the deadline before faxing the league that they were releasing him.